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JTC1980
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20. February 2008 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Guys, I realy need your help !!!!

A couple of days ago I fried my xbox motherboard. I ordered a new one from
consolewerks. I had a version 1.4/1.5 and got a new version 1.4/1.5 with a
new harddrive included. After installation of the new motherboard the xbox
ran fine. It booted original games without any problems.

After that I tried to softmod it as I always do. I used the SID Splinter
Cell v2.0 autoinstaller. After softmodding everything seemed ok. But when I
insert a backup game, the xbox doesn't recognize it and refuses to start the
game. I tried PAL and NTSC games on DVD+R and DVD-R. It doesn't make a
difference. After that I tried using the SID4 Splinter Cell autoinstaller
with the same result.

I figured that the problem might be with the motherboard bios. I restored
the xbox to it's original state with the restore ms-backup option. After
that I bridged the motherboard for a TSOP flash. I flashed the TSOP with
Executer 4981.06 and EvolutionX M8 biosses. Again with the same result.
The xbox boots originals but refuses to read backups.

For my last attempt I flashed TSOP with the original 5101 bios for 1.4/1.5
and softmodded it again. This also gave the same result. The xbox runs al
other applications like Xbox media center and dashboards fine, but keeps
refusing backup games. It's like this xbox is unmoddable...

Does any of you have an idea what might be causing this or does anybody
have an idea what I could try next???

Any help is greatly appreciated !!!!
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DLyon4
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20. February 2008 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did you get a whole new console including dvd player maybe? When you say doesn't recognize it, exactly what is happening. Does it give you the no disk or dirty disk or what? The problem may lie in the dvd player and not everything else you tried.

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JTC1980
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20. February 2008 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you for your reaction DLyon4.

I ordered a new motherboard with matching harddrive. I replaced
both of them. I still use the same dvd drive. The dvd drive has
always worked perfectly and as far as I know all xbox dvd drives
work with every motherboard, but I'm not 100% sure of that.

When I insert a backup game, the xbox tries to read it. It takes
about a minute before it gives up and in UnleashX dashboard it
sais that the dvd drive is empty. I don't get the disk unreadable
or dirty disk messages. Even when I use an other application,
dvd2xbox for example, it also sais no disk.

So if I asume the dvd drive works because it has always worked
before, it leaves the motherboard and the harddrive. I also tried
putting a previously working backup on the c-drive and it gives
the same results, so I can asume the problem is not with the
harddrive or the files installed.

That only leaves the motherboard. I tried to softmod and to flash
the TSOP directly, both result in non bootable backups. So the
problem is not the bios. That only leaves the eeprom. I checked
the eeprom settings and they say It's a PAL xbox, and that is
correct as far as I know.

I just don't see what I'm missing. I'm all out of ideas.
varnull
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20. February 2008 @ 21:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Welcome to one of the PAL region xbox funnies.. They don't like the dvd drives being swapped around for some unfathomable reason.

Now as you have flashed the tsop I found a trick to get around this about 70% of the time.. though it does tend to come back..

Unlock the hdd and lock it a few times.. Then reboot a couple of times and try the drive.

It sounds weird, and the drive will always play up.... I have no other answer for it. Some version mobos are just picky I suppose.
JTC1980
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21. February 2008 @ 07:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That sounds weird indeed. Then I wonder how the motherboard
detects that another dvd drive is used. As far as I know the
xbox dvd drive does not have a dvd key or serial number that
the motherboard is aware of. Even stranger is the fact that
it does boot original disks and only refuses backups.

I have seen however that programs like configmagic can detect
the brand and modelnumber of the dvd drive. I will try this
as soon as possible. Could the problem be solved by using
another brand and model dvd drive? I will try some other dvd
drives and see what it does. I never though that the dvd drive
could be causing this.

Thanks for the tip varnull, I will let you know what I find out.
varnull
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21. February 2008 @ 09:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yup.. it's a strange one..

In my xbox repair business I found the only way to get a reliable drive swap was to use the same make and model.. Doesn't seem to happen with the US ones at all.

I did find once that the bios looks at the drive type, so it may be firmware related (nothing you can do about that) Puzzled me too.. but give the hdd lock and unlock a few goes.. It seems to reset the IDE controller.
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JTC1980
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21. February 2008 @ 10:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Problem is solved. You were all right. The problem was dvd drive
related. I had a Philips drive installed. I swapped it for another
Philips drive and the problem remained. Then I swapped it for a
Thompson drive and the xbox worked perfectly. After that I tried
another Thompson drive and again the xbox worked perfectly.

It seems that the PAL xboxes indeed check the dvd drive type.
I want to thank you all for your help. I think I wouldn't have
figured this one out by myself.
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