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Dreamworks stuck with Toshiba, HD DVD
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article published on 27 February, 2008
Dreamworks Studios has announced that they are still "locked" into an exclusivity deal with Toshiba to distribute their movies on HD DVD only and would continue to do so until Toshiba tells them differently.
"We have a partnership with Toshiba and have an obligation to see this through," DreamWorks Chief Executive Jeffrey Katzenberg said.
"As you know, we have been well-compensated ... [ read the full article ]
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27. February 2008 @ 18:43 |
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..Unlucky!
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error5
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27. February 2008 @ 19:14 |
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"As you know, we have been well-compensated for our support.
Well, well. It's confirmed then. There was really a payoff from Toshiba.
Now I think the lawyers are still going at it as to how much money Dreamworks Animation has to return to Toshiba.
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27. February 2008 @ 19:20 |
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Lol it's like watching your friends all leave on vacation and your still stuck at home, a bored loner :P
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27. February 2008 @ 19:46 |
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Dreamworks is gonna have to switch to Blu Ray if the players are gonna become popular, with Dreamworks there would be more children's movies on Blu Ray
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27. February 2008 @ 20:48 |
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with Dreamworks there would be more children's movies on Blu Ray
As if we need any more! Disney has been Blu-ray exclusive from the start if I'm not mistaken.
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27. February 2008 @ 21:04 |
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Katzenberg should have never left Disney I guess.
Shrek 7 is HD DVD only? Aw shucks!
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27. February 2008 @ 21:26 |
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...lolz dumbasses. they should have seen this coming. what loyalty? what consumer satisfaction and all that? you go where the money is and the whole industry chose blu ray. better or not. like it or not. they might as well reject the format and do vhs or something else cuz of how cheap it might be...
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27. February 2008 @ 21:26 |
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Sony werent the only ones handing out the cash...
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27. February 2008 @ 21:49 |
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That sucks for them
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jcur31
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27. February 2008 @ 22:46 |
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150 million!! That's where Toshiba went wrong, Sony had to Pony up a whole lot more for exclusive support. Maybe that's why Sony TV's cost so much more, it's not quality, it's all the pockets they had to line to buy the next gen DVD market. Well that and Payton Manning.
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27. February 2008 @ 23:05 |
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this sucks man.
Peace
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27. February 2008 @ 23:20 |
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Simply a no-win situation for Dreamworks Animation.
Either they:
1. Return a good portion of the pay-off money to Toshiba
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2. Wait until the end of the 18 months before releasing on BD
I wonder if the lawyers could iron out some sort of a deal.
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27. February 2008 @ 23:20 |
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Originally posted by jcur31:
150 million!! That's where Toshiba went wrong, Sony had to Pony up a whole lot more for exclusive support. Maybe that's why Sony TV's cost so much more, it's not quality, it's all the pockets they had to line to buy the next gen DVD market. Well that and Payton Manning.
Nope... I'm pretty sure its the quality :P
Their XBR5s are like way up there, the best in LCD, but they cost an arm and a leg and maybe a couple extra fingers too!
I, Mr. Cheap, bought a Sharp LC-42D64U for $1300 and it's like the best TV you'll find up to like $2500 :)
Oh and those Payton Manning commercials are good lol
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27. February 2008 @ 23:59 |
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Originally posted by jcur31:
150 million!! That's where Toshiba went wrong, Sony had to Pony up a whole lot more for exclusive support. Maybe that's why Sony TV's cost so much more, it's not quality, it's all the pockets they had to line to buy the next gen DVD market. Well that and Payton Manning.
People still find a way to bash Sony about paying off studios after Toshiba did it. crazy.
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28. February 2008 @ 00:04 |
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Mmm dose Toshiba do any disc production? :P
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28. February 2008 @ 00:19 |
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Dreamworks more than likely is just pushing for a better payout. If, let's say, their deal was for $90million for 18 months of exclusivity, and they've only completed 6 months of that, then Toshiba is probably saying that the $90m should be adjusted to $30m.
Dreamworks probably wants to bump that up more, and making a public stink about it might help their cause. But the fair way would be to prorate that number, IMO.
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28. February 2008 @ 00:21 |
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Originally posted by jcur31:
150 million!! That's where Toshiba went wrong, Sony had to Pony up a whole lot more for exclusive support. Maybe that's why Sony TV's cost so much more, it's not quality, it's all the pockets they had to line to buy the next gen DVD market. Well that and Payton Manning.
People still find a way to bash Sony about paying off studios after Toshiba did it. crazy.
2 or 3 studios,sony paid off retail chains, rental stores and the studios that were not locked into a contract.
so much for consuemrs choosing formats :P
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28. February 2008 @ 02:24 |
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Originally posted by jcur31:
150 million!! That's where Toshiba went wrong, Sony had to Pony up a whole lot more for exclusive support. Maybe that's why Sony TV's cost so much more, it's not quality, it's all the pockets they had to line to buy the next gen DVD market. Well that and Payton Manning.
People still find a way to bash Sony about paying off studios after Toshiba did it. crazy.
2 or 3 studios,sony paid off retail chains, rental stores and the studios that were not locked into a contract.
so much for consuemrs choosing formats :P
My team only took 2... Your team took 3!!! That makes you worse neener neener neener!!!
Seriously? Are we children? Based on the fact that both sides paid various supply chain components off either sides fan boys could scream "THE CONSUMER DIDN'T CHOOSE!" Give it a rest, both sides used the same tactics. Sony was just better at the game cause they have played it many times before and lost. They were due.
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28. February 2008 @ 04:05 |
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Have both, Supported both from the beginning. My comment earlier was meant as a Joke not a bash on Sony. I am actually relieved, now they can move forward and I can start watching all the new movies in HD. Soon, no more trying to get to blockbuster first to rent the one copy they get in HD!! Yeah!! Well, except for Dreamworks it looks like.
Here is the funny thing, The biggest losers are not the early HD-DVD supporters who have a machine that will soon be obsolete, we always knew this was a possibility. It's the early adopters of the winning format, Blu-Ray, who spent upwards of almost a grand for a player that will not be able to take full advantage of the BD capabilities. Only now are they releasing BD 2.0 devices. Well unless you bought a PS3. Thank god I am in that crowd, although, a Sony supported IR device would be nice!!
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28. February 2008 @ 06:41 |
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Ludikris, I completely agree with you. As I said on numerous occasions, it's all business. The people making these Sony this, Sony that rubbish posts obviously have no business sense at all. We do need to remember that most the people making these crazy posts are either Kids or young Adults. We are conversing with people that are into gaming. As we know this attracts such a broad spectrum of ages.
Do you guys even half comprehend the scale that Sony operates business in? To pay $400,000,000 is nothing to them. It's not a bribe, it's called a contract. Obviously Sony considered that sum of money to be appropriate and would eventually bring profit. $400 million really isn't a lot of money to a company the size of Sony. Every business operates in the same manner just on a lesser scale. Sony have a lot more capital to play with. I can't even imagine the total bill that the Blu-ray project has cost to date.
Also, imagine how much Toshiba has invested in HD-DVD to date! Are they going to shut shop now because HD-DVD failed? I seriously doubt it. So what does that tell you? To me it says that the money they lost is considered collateral damage.
I said this in another thread but I'll say it again here as I think it's appropriate. Everything and anyone can be bought at a price. The only question is... How much?
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jcur31
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28. February 2008 @ 07:46 |
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You have me wondering if Sony threw some of that cash Toshiba's way?
It might be just a coincidence that the new joint chip making venture between Toshiba and Sony starting at the beginning of this next fiscal year was announced just a day or two after Toshiba announced it was throwing in the towel.
Feb. 19 -- Toshiba formally announces it will phase out the production of HD DVD players and recorders by the end of March. The format war is over.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12035667...=googlenews_wsj
Toshiba, Sony Agree On Chip-Making Deal
A WALL STREET JOURNAL NEWS ROUNDUP
February 21, 2008; Page B3
Toshiba Corp. and Sony Corp. said they have agreed formally on a chip-making venture that will start operations next fiscal year.
In line with an accord in October, Toshiba will buy some of Sony's 300-millimeter-wafer production lines in western Japan for about 90 billion yen ($835 million). The companies said the deal will be completed by the end of March, and Toshiba will lease facilities to the venture, which will start operations April 1.
The venture will be 60% held by Toshiba, 20% by Sony and 20% by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., Sony's game unit. The venture, which will be capitalized at 100 million yen, will make advanced chips used in Sony's PlayStation game consoles as well as in Toshiba's digital consumer goods
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28. February 2008 @ 10:37 |
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While it may sound like Dreamworks is in a really bad position, it's not really that bad. So they're not able to sell movies on Blu-Ray for another year or so, how much are they really losing? The biggest portion of movies are still sold on standard definition DVDs and they can still produce those without any problem. By the time Blu-Ray has a market large enough to make it extremely profitable, Dreamworks' contract with Toshiba will have expired.
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28. February 2008 @ 11:55 |
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People who believe that the Consumer chooses probably also believe that the people choose the President.
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28. February 2008 @ 12:45 |
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Originally posted by jcur31:
150 million!! That's where Toshiba went wrong, Sony had to Pony up a whole lot more for exclusive support. Maybe that's why Sony TV's cost so much more, it's not quality, it's all the pockets they had to line to buy the next gen DVD market. Well that and Payton Manning.
People still find a way to bash Sony about paying off studios after Toshiba did it. crazy.
2 or 3 studios,sony paid off retail chains, rental stores and the studios that were not locked into a contract.
so much for consuemrs choosing formats :P
My team only took 2... Your team took 3!!! That makes you worse neener neener neener!!!
Seriously? Are we children? Based on the fact that both sides paid various supply chain components off either sides fan boys could scream "THE CONSUMER DIDN'T CHOOSE!" Give it a rest, both sides used the same tactics. Sony was just better at the game cause they have played it many times before and lost. They were due.
Excalty, two wrongs don't make a right.
He who pays the most, plays the most.
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ikari
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28. February 2008 @ 12:47 |
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100% agree with you both.
In regards to the news article, I am shocked that Dreamworks didn't have some sort of exit claus in case some like this was to happen. Isn't that why company contracts like this are pages and pages long? For some reason, I can't help but think that Dreamworks is making an excuse.
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