They appeared to have a normal top coat surface and had good reviews so I ordered a 100 to try them out. About a week later they arrived with the cake spindle broken but still in relatively good shape. I decided to do a couple of test burns/quality scans and they performed quiet well.
In the process of doing this I managed to mix up two of the movies I was burning and labeled one wrong (I don't have an inkjet printer and only use sharpies). Not thinking much of it I grabbed an alcohol swab to remove what I had written. Of course the fact that theirs no lacquer on the printable side of the dvd never crossed my mind. After a couple of swipes with the alcohol swab the grainy porous surface started to come of all together and I could see straight through the dvd. A little surprised I scratched a different part of the surface with my thumbnail to see how resilient this coating really was, it scraped up quite easily and I had a fine dust under my thumb nail. Out of curiosity I threw it in a dvd player and checked the parts of the disc that no longer had a top coat and it played through just fine.
Needless to say I'm more than a little worried about longevity/durability of theses dvd's. Are inkjet printable dvd's in a sense unfinished or more fragile if the entire surface isn't printed on? I also noticed that when I held a verbatim and taiyo yuden disc up to a light I could see through the taiyo yuden disc much more easily, I'm assuming because there isn't any lacquer on the TY's so it can absorb the ink?
On a side note are the thermal TY's any better, more resilient?
If you're not going to run those discs through an inkjet printer,you're better off with the Shiny/Silver Lacquers. They are a lot cheaper than the injet printables,especially the plus format.
Most Inkjet printable media is not waterproof.Once I had the wrong cover on a Maxell matte Full hub inkjet printable. The alcohol really didn't take that much ink off.It did not take any of the printable surface either. I've never seen that or heard about it.
My newer Ty watershields are waterproof,but not sure about alcohol proof.
I know from experience that alcohol can be used on the Shiny Lacquers. You're still going to have some light smudging from the original sharpie,but majority of the sharpie will be taken off. It'll be a more economical way and plenty of writing surface for your sharpies.
Some of the regular media can vary on the outer surface. My Office Depot +16x ricohs,a sharpie won't even lighten up with alcohol. Sony:alcohol removes a lot more of the sharpie.
I was buying nothing but MIT verbatim but now I can find almost nothing but MII. I was curious as to how good taiyo yudens really are and was leery after reading about all of the fake TY's floating around. After finding the guarantee of genuine TY's made in japan at supermediastore I bought the only one's available. Ironically the day I received the TY's I checked the site again only to see all three +r types available with a 10% holiday discount.
So how vulnerable are inkjet media to water? To the point where I couldn't use water and a mild detergent to clean them? I take really good care of my media, however friends I lend out to do not.
The shiny silver ty's were the ones I planed on buying in the first place, next time I suppose. In the meantime I think I?ll be testing the durability of these inkjet ones.
Some people spray a lacquer spray paint like Krylon on their backups. Patricia namick's is another clearcoat that is used.I never tried it,but other people had great results: Waterproofing,Hardness,and Glossy.
Place the backup in an old-bottom half of a slim cd case/or wax paper- and spray away-but not too much. Very light coats. That me be an option since that batch of Tys you got are that fragile.
I've been seeing reports of MIT verbs hitting the Bestbuy weekly sale this week. I wouldn't bother with the MII's as well.
Well I sacrificed the already damaged dvd for the water test and the surface turned into a soft kind of paste. It didn't come off completely but easily smudged and I could gouge lines in it.
That clear coat lacquer sounds like a good idea I think that's my next step... although I think I'm going to feel like a moron spray painting my dvd's. I'm definitely never buying inkjet media again.
On top of all of this I'm having some minor playback problems. I think it's finally time to replace my drives, but I?ll save that for the appropriate forums.
ZoSoIV- I don't doubt it My brother from another mother but mostly what's working in the hairspray is the alcohol !!! But hairspray also has all kinds of other Chemical Gunk in it too like Balsam which is made from the sap of a tree & is basically Glue !!! I would rather just stick with plain 91% Isopropyl Alcohol without all the other Chemicals & additives ! I realize you would'nt be using a large amount of either still I would personally use the Isopropyl Alcohol ! But I still thank you for the tip & appreciate your post on all topics ! Thanx My friend and happy easter !!!! Hop! hop! Hop!
saugmon- I hope your right ? After all , One can Never be Too Rich , Too Thin , Or Have to Many Verbatims ( Preferably DVD+R'S or DVD+R DL'S if your wealthy) !! What I really Hope is that they have them in stock @ my Local Store This time ? What good is a Sale if they don't have the merchandise ? I know I could Price match & get the Verbatims Elsewhere !! but I still have that BESTBUY giftcard & it would be almost like getting them free !!!! Happy Easter O' Dancing Green Mutant BunnyPal LOL! Cheers !!!!!
