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Kerman
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26. March 2008 @ 18:46 |
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Hey guys I got the Same Problem, did th 70% trick on the 1.9b update disc. Now im trying to recover and its not working!! I'm using Maxell DVD+R and burnin at max speeed. I'm going out to get DVD-R and then burning the padded 1.35GB 1.9brecovery disc at 1x. You sire it needs to be DvD-R
YO
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XSilvenX
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27. March 2008 @ 00:00 |
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The guys who got it working can you be a bit more specific?! Exactly what were the steps taken... I'm having issues too..
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Kerman
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27. March 2008 @ 00:05 |
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Originally posted by XSilvenX:
The guys who got it working can you be a bit more specific?! Exactly what were the steps taken... I'm having issues too..
Aright, I have burned the unpadded, writing speed 4x, the 1.9b recovery disc. I've done the Steps and procedures that I'm supposed to be done. (Turn on wii, insert disc, press reset, wait 3-5 min... tirn off wii.. run backups) My backups dont't work! (fromt the 70% trick) but my originals still runn fine!!
YO
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XSilvenX
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27. March 2008 @ 00:35 |
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Originally posted by Kerman:
Originally posted by XSilvenX:
The guys who got it working can you be a bit more specific?! Exactly what were the steps taken... I'm having issues too..
Aright, I have burned the unpadded, writing speed 4x, the 1.9b recovery disc. I've done the Steps and procedures that I'm supposed to be done. (Turn on wii, insert disc, press reset, wait 3-5 min... tirn off wii.. run backups) My backups dont't work! (fromt the 70% trick) but my originals still runn fine!!
No offense but that doesn't help anyone... Now that 1.9s is out and Retail Brawl will work theres no reason to have a "corrupted" Wiikey anymore. All my attemps at recovering have been FAILURE after FAILURE. I'm on my 5th time trying to recover this thing right now...I've used padded and unpadded by now..burning at 1x and 4x. The disc just starts up..then in less than 10 seconds ..nothing..silence. So why do I leave it in if the disc isn't being read? I'm not even sure how the recovery disc is supposed to work with the Wiikey out of commision...the Wii by itself is not supposed to be able to read backup discs anyway. I may be using bad media..but I doubt it. It's TDK DVD-R. These worked with everything so far so I doubt it's the media..or my generic laptop burner...
...the main question I have is this. When you put the disc in and you reset, do you just wait at the "safety" screen and let it idle to the channel selection or do you go to the disc channel itself and wait there?
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27. March 2008 @ 13:58 |
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Originally posted by XSilvenX:
Originally posted by Kerman:
Originally posted by XSilvenX:
The guys who got it working can you be a bit more specific?! Exactly what were the steps taken... I'm having issues too..
Aright, I have burned the unpadded, writing speed 4x, the 1.9b recovery disc. I've done the Steps and procedures that I'm supposed to be done. (Turn on wii, insert disc, press reset, wait 3-5 min... tirn off wii.. run backups) My backups dont't work! (fromt the 70% trick) but my originals still runn fine!!
No offense but that doesn't help anyone... Now that 1.9s is out and Retail Brawl will work theres no reason to have a "corrupted" Wiikey anymore. All my attemps at recovering have been FAILURE after FAILURE. I'm on my 5th time trying to recover this thing right now...I've used padded and unpadded by now..burning at 1x and 4x. The disc just starts up..then in less than 10 seconds ..nothing..silence. So why do I leave it in if the disc isn't being read? I'm not even sure how the recovery disc is supposed to work with the Wiikey out of commision...the Wii by itself is not supposed to be able to read backup discs anyway. I may be using bad media..but I doubt it. It's TDK DVD-R. These worked with everything so far so I doubt it's the media..or my generic laptop burner...
...the main question I have is this. When you put the disc in and you reset, do you just wait at the "safety" screen and let it idle to the channel selection or do you go to the disc channel itself and wait there?
okay... when you put in the recovery disc, you are not supposed to hear anything coming from the wii. the disc is not even supposed to be spinning so you put the disc in the wii when your first put it on, press RESET and leave the wii alone for about 5 minutes. So if you never hear the recovery disc spinning in the wii that is completely normal
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27. March 2008 @ 13:59 |
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lol whoops.. made a lot of the same posts.. sorry about that
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27. March 2008 @ 14:00 |
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lol whoops.. made a lot of the same posts.. sorry about that
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XSilvenX
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27. March 2008 @ 23:51 |
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Originally posted by HunterX5:
Originally posted by XSilvenX:
Originally posted by Kerman:
Originally posted by XSilvenX:
The guys who got it working can you be a bit more specific?! Exactly what were the steps taken... I'm having issues too..
Aright, I have burned the unpadded, writing speed 4x, the 1.9b recovery disc. I've done the Steps and procedures that I'm supposed to be done. (Turn on wii, insert disc, press reset, wait 3-5 min... tirn off wii.. run backups) My backups dont't work! (fromt the 70% trick) but my originals still runn fine!!
No offense but that doesn't help anyone... Now that 1.9s is out and Retail Brawl will work theres no reason to have a "corrupted" Wiikey anymore. All my attemps at recovering have been FAILURE after FAILURE. I'm on my 5th time trying to recover this thing right now...I've used padded and unpadded by now..burning at 1x and 4x. The disc just starts up..then in less than 10 seconds ..nothing..silence. So why do I leave it in if the disc isn't being read? I'm not even sure how the recovery disc is supposed to work with the Wiikey out of commision...the Wii by itself is not supposed to be able to read backup discs anyway. I may be using bad media..but I doubt it. It's TDK DVD-R. These worked with everything so far so I doubt it's the media..or my generic laptop burner...
...the main question I have is this. When you put the disc in and you reset, do you just wait at the "safety" screen and let it idle to the channel selection or do you go to the disc channel itself and wait there?
okay... when you put in the recovery disc, you are not supposed to hear anything coming from the wii. the disc is not even supposed to be spinning so you put the disc in the wii when your first put it on, press RESET and leave the wii alone for about 5 minutes. So if you never hear the recovery disc spinning in the wii that is completely normal
Yah too bad that does absolutely nothing for me..maybe I need to use Maxell instead of these TDK DVD-R's... I'll get some Maxells and try that eventually..
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Memphisto
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28. March 2008 @ 14:17 |
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I have the same Wii problem like anyone else, not able to read any backups and only 2 weeks after updating to 1.9G. Here is my story....
Firmware Update to 1.9g
- Filechopped wiikey 1.9g update
- Burnt using ImgBurn into Sony DVD-RW
- Updated firmware successfully
- Able to play SMG for like two weeks
2 weeks later
- Powered on Wii with Zelda: TP in it
- LCD tv shows start up screen and suddenly went back to main menu
- Attempt to re-start Zelda but receive disc read error instead
- Same goes for my remaining backup discs :(
Attempts to recover
After reading through forums including this one, i gather that the only path available for my Wii is to recover using 1.9b recovery disc. There are many versions on the steps to take to have a successful recovery and I attempted most of them as follows:
- Burnt 1.9b recovery, no filechop, to Verbatim DVD-R @ 1x
- Burnt 1.9b recovery, filechop, to Verbatim DVD-R @ 1x
- Burnt 1.9b recovery, no filechop, to Verbatim DVD-R @ 4x
- Burnt 1.9b recovery, filechop, to Verbatim DVD-R @ 4x
- Burnt 1.9b recovery, filechop & GCOS, to Verbatim DVD-R @ 4x
- Start up the wii using original disc, put in the recovery disc and reset, wait for 5-8 mins before power off and on the wii if no GC logo.
- Start up the wii, go into the disc menu to see the disc read error, put in the recovery disc and reset, wait for 5-8 mins before power off and on the wii if no GC logo.
- Start up the wii, put in the recovery disc and reset, wait for 5-8 mins before power off and on the wii if no GC logo.
- Startup wii with Recovery disc, wait for 5-8mins before turn off and on with the Recovery disc still in if no GC logo logo. (Tried a couple of times to unplug (hard-reboot) instead of turning off as suggested in previous posts.
I have attempted the above but to no avail. Am I missing anything?
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XSilvenX
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28. March 2008 @ 14:28 |
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Instructions on the recovery disc need to be made alot more specific. It seems there are so many variables and interpretations to what the original (rather vague) instructions said. Do we wait 5 minutes at the channels, do we go to disc channel?! Alot of you guys report you see the cube logo and as you start it you get a disc read error (black screen, white text) telling you remove the disc and reset the Wii. Then after that the Wiikey works again..?! How does that happen when supposedly the disc isn't supposed to be doing anything at all....does anybody technically know exactly how the recovery works on the Wiikey?!
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CPsychoD
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28. March 2008 @ 15:01 |
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I was away for a while, so excuse if im out of the conversation a little bit...
I join this thread because I needed help recovering my WiiKey,
however!!!
Never found any instructions or had the damnthing work, and with no help... I gave up, so I agree that instructions are very helpful in this threads....
Now I dont think anyone can be lucky like me, however I do hope so...
The funny part is that even though that I power off my Wii, at 70% and Orig SSBB worked, I just put back in my 1.9g disc and reinstalled, Galaxy then worked fine.
What did I have? What did I do?
Well I had, 1.9g previously and 3.2U, then installed and powered off at 70% 1.9b, your tricking SSBB(but everyone already knew this) but for some reason I'm almost positive that the WiiKey is still working, at least enough for the 1.9g disc to be put in and read by the wii
What I do, nothing specialor anything i have not said, just wanted to try if my games could be read, because the recovery was being unreadable, so I decided to reinstall the 1.9g beta and everything worked fine.
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CPsychoD
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28. March 2008 @ 15:05 |
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I forgot something....
BAsed on the guy that posted before me, somehting he said is very true, does the recovery disc do something without us knowing??
Because like i said, I tried several tiemes, and I got the please eject and restart the Wii, so if that all???
See why instructions are important, so if that is, maybe my situation was not do to luck, but again it would had same me some time if there was some clear instructions anywhere.
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XSilvenX
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28. March 2008 @ 23:35 |
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Originally posted by CPsychoD:
I forgot something....
BAsed on the guy that posted before me, somehting he said is very true, does the recovery disc do something without us knowing??
Because like i said, I tried several tiemes, and I got the please eject and restart the Wii, so if that all???
See why instructions are important, so if that is, maybe my situation was not do to luck, but again it would had same me some time if there was some clear instructions anywhere.
I've wasted about ...10 or more DVD's trying to recovery my Wiikey. This thing is just not working....why bother. Is there any other way to restore the EEPROM other than using a disc? Like for example opening the Wii up and messing with the chip somehow..? If not then I guess I'll be stuck playing Brawl Retail Brawl forever..which I don't really mind since it's such an amazing game...but I would enjoy the flexibility of playing other games..
Originally posted by CPsychoD:
I was away for a while, so excuse if im out of the conversation a little bit...
I join this thread because I needed help recovering my WiiKey,
however!!!
Never found any instructions or had the damnthing work, and with no help... I gave up, so I agree that instructions are very helpful in this threads....
Now I dont think anyone can be lucky like me, however I do hope so...
The funny part is that even though that I power off my Wii, at 70% and Orig SSBB worked, I just put back in my 1.9g disc and reinstalled, Galaxy then worked fine.
What did I have? What did I do?
Well I had, 1.9g previously and 3.2U, then installed and powered off at 70% 1.9b, your tricking SSBB(but everyone already knew this) but for some reason I'm almost positive that the WiiKey is still working, at least enough for the 1.9g disc to be put in and read by the wii
What I do, nothing specialor anything i have not said, just wanted to try if my games could be read, because the recovery was being unreadable, so I decided to reinstall the 1.9g beta and everything worked fine.
So I'm confused. You trashed your wii with the 1.9b method in order to play Brawl and it worked...but it could still read burnt games?!
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XSilvenX
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29. March 2008 @ 02:04 |
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srry double post..
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31. March 2008 @ 02:09 |
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I understand everyones frustration, I just got my recovery working after about 45 minutes.
I used taiyo yuden dvd-r, burned at 16x, from the recovery disc file on the wiikey resources thread (the sticky), filechopped to the 1.35 gig size (follow the file chop tutorial.)
I tried several things but here is what worked.
Start with wii turned off.
Power on wii.
hit a to go past safety screen
eject any disc in the drive
put in recovery disc
at this point no GC icon should appear and the disc should not read (apart from some disc loading sounds)
press reset on the wii (do not turn it on and off, just hit reset)
go past the safety screen
at this point the recovery disc should still be in the drive, not reading (or seems like its not.)
wait 5-7 minutes, i waited 6
reset the wii (do not turn it on and off, just hit reset)
go past the safety screen
there should be no GC logo in the disc channel
eject the recovery disc and put in the wiikey 1.9g update disc
The GC logo should appear for this, if not try again.
Update to 1.9g (i used the 1.9g filechopped update available on the wiikey resources stick thread)
Once that is complete, upgate to 1.9s
Send some positive feedback to the wiikey team (via their website) for being so badass
You are now ready to get back to playing SSBB
let me know if i can help anyone out
p.s. I know there is a lot of discussion about medium. I ALWAYS use taiyo yudens, they are by far the best discs i have ever found. I get them in bulk from rima.com, but that is not a plug, it's just where i get it from. I suggest to anyone who ever has media problems, get TY's, you'll never look back.
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Memphisto
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31. March 2008 @ 10:52 |
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Hey partriv,
I'm right now trying out what you have just suggested. May I enquire the following to make sure i'm doing the right thing?
Start with wii turned off.
Power on wii.
hit a to go past safety screen
eject any disc in the drive
put in recovery disc
at this point no GC icon should appear and the disc should not read (apart from some disc loading sounds)
reset the wii -> press reset or off/on?
go past the safety screen
at this point the recovery disc should still be in the drive, not reading (or seems like its not.)
wait 5-7 minutes, i waited 6
reset the wii -> press reset or off/on?
go past the safety screen
there should be no GC logo in the disc channel
eject the recovery disc and put in the wiikey 1.9g update disc -> 1.9g udpdate disc is filechopped or filechopped + GCOSed or plain?
The GC logo should appear for this, if not try again.
Update to 1.9g
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31. March 2008 @ 12:54 |
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Mephisto, here are my resposnses
Originally posted by Memphisto:
reset the wii -> press reset or off/on?
press RESET, i DID NOT cycle the power
Originally posted by Memphisto:
reset the wii -> press reset or off/on?
press RESET, i DID NOT cycle the power
Originally posted by Memphisto:
eject the recovery disc and put in the wiikey 1.9g update disc -> 1.9g udpdate disc is filechopped or filechopped + GCOSed or plain?
it is the filechopped file available on the wiikey resources thread, this is the link to the update i am using, 1.9g USA http://www.teambadattitude.co.uk/Wii/WiiKey/1.9gBootUSA.zip
Hope this helps, it is very scary and frustrating when your wiikey cannot be recovered.
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XSilvenX
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31. March 2008 @ 16:19 |
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When my Verbatims come in the mail from Newegg.com I will go and check out the way Partriv posted. Looks like that should work..but who knows my Wii might keep acting retarded again. Thanks in advance Partriv!!
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Memphisto
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31. March 2008 @ 20:45 |
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Hi partriv,
Been trying for the past few hours but to no avail. I do see some symptoms though if recovering with a GCOSed disc:
1) If attempt to recover with GCOSed recovery disc, the drive will sometimes half eject the disc, suck it back and spit it out. Not when recovering with Filechopped recovery disc.
2) I do occasionally get a short blink blink sound upon inserting the 1.9g update disc after the recovery attempt with a GCOSed disc.
Anyone see the same?
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31. March 2008 @ 20:59 |
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Mephisto...
it occurred to me while I was at work that I think i may have turned off my wii after waiting the few minutes. You may want to try this set of updated directions:
Start with wii turned off.
Power on wii.
hit a to go past safety screen
eject any disc in the drive
put in recovery disc
at this point no GC icon should appear and the disc should not read (apart from some disc loading sounds)
press reset on the wii (do not turn it on and off, just hit reset)
go past the safety screen
at this point the recovery disc should still be in the drive, not reading (or seems like its not.)
wait 5-7 minutes, i waited 6
TURN THE WII OFF, WAIT A FEW SECODNS FOR THE YELLOW LIGHT, TURN IT BACK ON
go past the safety screen
there should be no GC logo in the disc channel
eject the recovery disc and put in the wiikey 1.9g update disc
The GC logo should appear for this, if not try again.
Update to 1.9g (i used the 1.9g filechopped update available on the wiikey resources stick thread)
Once that is complete, upgate to 1.9s
Send some positive feedback to the wiikey team (via their website) for being so badass
You are now ready to get back to playing SSBB
the bold is the only changed direction, i believe i still rebooted with the recovery disc in, then noticed it had no GC logo so i popped it out and tried the 1.9g update.
Also, i did hear the bleeping sound every now and then could never quite figure out what it was...
Let me know how this works for you.
Originally posted by Memphisto:
Hi partriv,
Been trying for the past few hours but to no avail. I do see some symptoms though if recovering with a GCOSed disc:
1) If attempt to recover with GCOSed recovery disc, the drive will sometimes half eject the disc, suck it back and spit it out. Not when recovering with Filechopped recovery disc.
2) I do occasionally get a short blink blink sound upon inserting the 1.9g update disc after the recovery attempt with a GCOSed disc.
Anyone see the same?
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Memphisto
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1. April 2008 @ 12:24 |
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Hi partriv,
Sad to say this ain't working for me :( I've tried with 1.9g and 1.9s updates but the most i can get out of it is the beeping sound upon inserting the disc.
Still trying at this very moment ..........
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YourBFF
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2. April 2008 @ 05:16 |
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Okay, I have two Wiis, and both had a different experience when recovering. I will post what I did, but technically, a lot of credit goes to the forum for my second recovery, since I was searching for remedies from this forum. (credits to partriv in this thread for that one)
Just a little fun fact for confused people: Why doesn't the Wii make sounds when recovering? Well, recall that the original file was not that big. The Wii read the recovery disc in a few seconds, and looked for a video to play in the Disc Channel. The Wii was "tricked" into thinking that there was a file to display in the Channel and subsequently flashed the Wiikey.
Anyway, if people still have troubles after this, I will try testing for different methods before telling you to buy a new Wiikey (lol). And just post in this thread, don't PM.
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Some things you will obviously need before attempting:
Wiikey 1.9b Recovery Disc (Padded or Unpadded)
Wiikey 1.9g Update Disc/Wiikey 1.9s Update Disc (Padded)
I will use 1.9b and 1.9g/1.9s to refer to these discs, respectively.
Also, if neither options are working, please replace your 1.9b recovery with a padded version if you're using an unpadded version, and vice-versa. When burning another recovery disc, try using a different burn speed. I tried 4x and 2x for my padded and unpadded, respectively.
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Option A
1) Unplug the Wii and plug it back in. (I like to start from a clean slate with a red LED)
2) Turn on Wii. Doesn't matter if theres a disc inside or not. If there is a disc, eject it. If there isn't, press eject anyway.
3) Insert 1.9b in the Wii. Let it stop spinning, and press A.
4) Wait at the menu until black screen pops up. If you want, give it 5 or 6 minutes. Proceed to next step after 8 minutes if the screen doesn't pop up.
5) Press the Reset button
6) Eject the 1.9b after it stops spinning.
7) Turn off Wii until Yellow Light and repeat Step 2-6 one more time. Flashing is a tedious task that doesn't always work. Give it one more go. At this point, you may or may not see a GC Logo in the Channel Menu.
8) Insert a backup. If it works, hooray! You may or may not want to update to 1.9g/1.9s at this point. If it didn't work, Option B.
Option B
1) Unplug the Wii and plug it back in. (Again, clean slate with a red LED)
2) Turn on Wii. Yep, disc inside or not, press eject anyway.
3) Insert 1.9b in the Wii. Let it stop spinning, and press A.
4) Wait at the menu for 3 minutes. If you want, give it 5 or 6 minutes.
5) Press the Reset button
6) Eject the 1.9b after it stops spinning.
7) Turn off Wii until Yellow Light, and repeat steps 2-6. Tedious, tedious, tedious.
8) Insert 1.9g/1.9s. Let's hope for a GC Logo! YES!? YAY NEXT STEP!
9) Update as normal. I think you'd know what to do from here.
I wish everyone a Good Luck when recovering.
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rafadawn
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2. April 2008 @ 05:58 |
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@YourBFF;
Could you kindly copy your post to the Wiikey sticky?
I am sure it will help several people there.
Where's the party?!?
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Memphisto
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2. April 2008 @ 07:50 |
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Hi YourBFF,
May I ask how do you Turn off Wii until Yellow Light?
My only understanding is by turning on Standby Connect it'll be yellow when power off, and red if Standby Connect is off.
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XSilvenX
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2. April 2008 @ 14:32 |
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You only get the yellow light if you have Wiiconnect's standby connection on. I don't think it HAS to be a yellow light as BFF is just stating the way he did his EXACTLY.
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