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Japan will block Internet access for illegal file sharers
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article published on 16 March, 2008
A report by the Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper has said that Japanese companies are planning to block Internet access to anyone who downloads unauthorized files via P2P or other methods.
The newspaper said that Japan's ISPs have been faced "with mounting complaints from the music, movie and video-game industries" and have agreed to take the drastic action. The ISPs will send e-mails to users ... [ read the full article ]
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21. March 2008 @ 02:18 |
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Originally posted by Amir89:
This can be so easily circumvented by changing your IP..
But nevertheless, this is a sad development for Japan, the world's fastest Internet Connections have just been rendered MOOT.
ya but the masses need a easy to use program to do this... still have yet to figure out how to do a porxy ><
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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21. March 2008 @ 04:04 |
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Just to offer an experience that relates to this article very much...
Not too long ago I recieved two e-mails from my ISP within close proximity of each other for illegal downloads. They were passed on from one of the media copyright protection bodies which I will not name to retain my animosity.
However, these e-mails basically requested that I not do this again "cease and desist" or further action will be taken. Now, naturally I was really concerned. I thought I was going to get locked up! LOL! For days I researched these type of e-mails on the net and started to discover a very common theme with these e-mails. No matter who they were from (MPAA, RIAA, ESA etc.) they all had a very similar template.
Upon further reflection and reading the e-mail more closely, I started to realise that my fears were unfounded... First of all, the "further action" they mentioned was simply cancelling my internet account. Exactly as this news article states. Is that a major problem? Not really! I would just find a new ISP and open a new account. Second of all, one of the e-mails stated a name of a media file that I know 100% that I didn't download as I already owned this piece of media... ?
My point is that I think (I can not guarantee this) that these e-mails are automatically generated somehow (maybe some kind of trojan attached to the torrent) and sent to your host internet provider, quoting your "IP address" as that is all they can get from you. From there your Internet Provider passes on the e-mail to you as that is all that they can really do, thanks to a law called the "privacy act". I am not sure how far these copyright agencies need to go to actually obtain your personal details but I can only imagine it wouldn't be easy as our basic rights would be violated. It would be a costly exercise for them to do this as they would need to go down all the legal channels to obtain your details lawfully. If they ever did do this, it would be to prove a point and most certainly not to recover costs.
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26. March 2008 @ 08:24 |
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Sony has had a great year and it only just begun! They were able to kill HD DVD and now bribed the politicials of Japan to preserve the Japanese way.
ringwar& Ryu77, in the US, Comcast and Cox are policing their users now. I heard from a friend who still does some P2P and has Comcast. He uses a torrent then drasticlly reduces his upload and download speeds as well as fully encrypts his uploads and downloads. He also uses TOR to browse the torrent sites. I would at least cut the volume down and encrypt ASAP. They can most easily find you by your traffic load and torrent protocals. I think once you have been identified as a supernormal traffic user you are put on a list. Your traffic is randomly checked for P2P protocals. This happens robotically but they can tell you what you downloaded last week because the isp can read the P2P protocals. Once you are on the watch list, your days are numbered. Your IPSs will be collecting data for the watch list before they start doing anything else.
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craftyzan
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30. March 2008 @ 07:37 |
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What about sending a Tor IP address to the tracker? What does that do? Just curious.
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30. March 2008 @ 14:59 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Just to offer an experience that relates to this article very much...
Not too long ago I recieved two e-mails from my ISP within close proximity of each other for illegal downloads. They were passed on from one of the media copyright protection bodies which I will not name to retain my animosity.
However, these e-mails basically requested that I not do this again "cease and desist" or further action will be taken. Now, naturally I was really concerned. I thought I was going to get locked up! LOL! For days I researched these type of e-mails on the net and started to discover a very common theme with these e-mails. No matter who they were from (MPAA, RIAA, ESA etc.) they all had a very similar template.
Upon further reflection and reading the e-mail more closely, I started to realise that my fears were unfounded... First of all, the "further action" they mentioned was simply cancelling my internet account. Exactly as this news article states. Is that a major problem? Not really! I would just find a new ISP and open a new account. Second of all, one of the e-mails stated a name of a media file that I know 100% that I didn't download as I already owned this piece of media... ?
My point is that I think (I can not guarantee this) that these e-mails are automatically generated somehow (maybe some kind of trojan attached to the torrent) and sent to your host internet provider, quoting your "IP address" as that is all they can get from you. From there your Internet Provider passes on the e-mail to you as that is all that they can really do, thanks to a law called the "privacy act". I am not sure how far these copyright agencies need to go to actually obtain your personal details but I can only imagine it wouldn't be easy as our basic rights would be violated. It would be a costly exercise for them to do this as they would need to go down all the legal channels to obtain your details lawfully. If they ever did do this, it would be to prove a point and most certainly not to recover costs.
If it indeed was a trojen or meerly a tracker attacker. you could metaphoricly speaking reverse engineer it get the information contained withen find out were the Ip tracker is coming from and ban it from reaching your network. or send it back to them with loads of Porno Pop ups attached to there automated reply.
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jordo947
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4. May 2008 @ 19:43 |
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BS! I just received a letter from my internet provider with an attached letter from the ESA sayin i downloaded halo... then knew the timestamp and everything. Optimum says if it happens repeatedly they will shut down my internet......
gay!
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4. May 2008 @ 22:12 |
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Originally posted by jordo947:
BS! I just received a letter from my internet provider with an attached letter from the ESA sayin i downloaded halo... then knew the timestamp and everything. Optimum says if it happens repeatedly they will shut down my internet......
gay!
I would tell them my disc is scratched and I needed a backup :P
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5. May 2008 @ 06:47 |
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craftyzan, You could DL the torrent with TOR but TOR is way too slow to DL anything of any size and that would really be abusing TOR. If you like, you could set your torrent for 2 KB DL and 1 KB upload. That would be much faster than TOR and would slip below the cyber radar.
jordo947, I assume you have COX. You can try not DLing for a month or so and then start back up with full encryption. I would suggets Bit Comet. There are 3 settings for encryption off, ready and forced. You want the forced or on all the time setting. You will only send and accept encrypted packets. You might want to greatly reduce your UP and DL speeds. It is your volume that gets their attention. If you can greatly reduce your speeds they will bother someone else. If everything you do is encrypted they will not know what they are doing. I would also DL some legal stuff as well. Linux is particularly 'prickily' about ISPs interfearing with their business. If you get a second letter I would complain to them first before you complain to your ISP. By encrypting your flows, they can't tell what you are doing. That puts your ISP in a bind. It is illegal for ISPs to interfear with random torrent activity.
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6. May 2008 @ 02:37 |
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Did'nt the Japanese government learn anything from WWII and totalitarianism ?
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hoppy54
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6. May 2008 @ 10:56 |
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they will never police it and its quite rich really! coming from a nation that have copied evreything. a political statement by the looks of it..
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