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Veblin
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6. January 2004 @ 00:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here is what I got from reading around.

Adaptec created ASPI. Adaptec SCSI Protocol Interface.

Microsoft included ASPI in Windows 95/98/ME.

Then the fight began.

Microsoft did not want to rely on Adaptec for ASPI. They only want to use their own software so they made SPTI. SCSI Pass Through Interface.

Microsoft included SPTI in Windows NT/2000/XP.

Adaptec started charging for new versions of ASPI.

Microsoft said not to install ASPI on those versions of Windows because it was not needed because they had SPTI.

Adaptec said not to install ASPI on those versions of Windows because they were fighting with Microsoft who was using SPTI instead of their ASPI, even though ASPI works fine on those versions and is better than SPTI.

Later, Adaptec started giving away ASPI and now recommends using the newest versions on Windows from 98 to XP. They know ASPI is needed and better than SPTI.

Microsoft doesn't recommend using ASPI because Microsoft, of course, does not recommend that you use software other than their own. That's why they make it sound hard to install ASPI and make the directions difficult. It's not.

I would say it is best to install the newest version of Adaptec ASPI.
http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/drivers_by_product.html?sess=no&language=English+US&cat=%2fProduct%2fASPI-4.70&prodkey=ASPI-4.70

This should not cause conflicts and many burner programs need this. If a burner program does not want to use Adaptec's ASPI, they will supply their own to use. That should not cause a conflict either because that program will be looking for ASPI in it's own location. And the ASPI they are using is probably really from Adaptec to begin with.

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6. January 2004 @ 06:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hiya guys,

I shall deal with the posts in order, please bear with me...

smg I am not surprised you got confused, trawling Microsoft's support site is bad enough for those of us who HAVE to.

Upon further investigation, it seems that XP DOES NOT SUPPLY ASPI (my respects go to VEBLIN for a nice bit of detective work, that highlighted a faulty assumption on my part), and you have been led astray by a bit of faulty advice on my part, sorry smg, my bad.

I have done some further looking into RecordNow Max and whether it uses ASPI, this is what I did:

Find ALL ASPI dll's and rename them so any attempt to access them would cause an error.
Run a system profiler watching resource usage and file access by RecordNow.
Run RecordNow Max and test, burn and verify a disk.

NO ERRORS REPORTED, disk was fine, profiler showed no attempt to access ASPI in any way.

So, a valid conclusion would be - RecordNow Max V4.5 as downloaded from Stomp DOES NOT USE ASPI.

I could see the px-engine starting, files being accessed & data flowing, BUT NO ASPI.

So,
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Well heres another update.
The representative fromStomp RecNOwMax sent me a letter stating (written in blue) that RecNowMax comes with its own aspi and something else
don't worry about it, maybe you got a letter from a marketing-droid type.

There is NO CONFLICT.

Nero uses its OWN ASPI, and knows where it is, and knows to ignore all others.

RecordNow Max V4.5 as downloaded from Stomp does NOT use ASPI, it uses the px-engine as supplied as part of the install, it ignores ASPI.

There is no conflict.

There is no need to worry about turning programs on and off.

The two programs, Nero and RecordNow Max WILL CO-EXIST perfectly happily with each other on the same system, this I have tried and tested myself, on TWO systems.

So, go ahead and install the programs, it will be ok.



Veblin Very nice work there, Kudos to you.
Your investigation pointed out where I was in error (unfounded assumption, un-checked at the time and subsequent embarrasment.. I had a real Homer moment with that one.. Duh!!!).

I hope you don't mind, but I have taken a snapshot of your post & filed it - succinct and to the point, and I shall use it when the question pops up again - admirable!

Have Fun...

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6. January 2004 @ 07:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If there is a conflict it's likely in your registry. I am using Nero 6.0, Alcohol 120%, CopyToDvd/CD(for burning with DVD2One, and Cdrwin 5.0 on windows XP Pro and all without a conflict of any kind. You will have to uninstall everything that involves burning and write them down. Then find a good freeware application to clean your registry with, then reinstall Nero (it comes with its own aspi layer and burn buddy burn. Go here to get a copy of regcleaner. http://www.discountevidenceeliminator.com/windows-registry.htm

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That's quite all right drchips (we're all human, except maybe for some politicians). I'm just glad you're on our side. I wish the people at Stomp would get it together though, because this one guy keeps insisting that XP does come with an ASPI even though I keep telling him Microsoft says No. Naturally he is the same one who wrote me tellung me RecNM comes with its own aspi. Even though he also told me that Neros aspi would work with RNM I can't believe him anymore.
I tried burning a regular data cd last night and burned 3 coasters. The problem was I had my dvd burner enabled while I was burning with my cd writer. So I went into Services and disabled my dvd burner and burnt 3 cds without a hitch. During the first 3 coasters when the writing wizard popped up and informed me that it could NOT complete the process, I happened to notice that the software listed on the front of the writing wizard was provided by,,,,,guess who,,,,Roxio Inc.
I have been reading an awful lot of complaints that Roxio is unstable, I guess my experience just adds to that proof. Also because ever since I have had my pc (over a year now, I have not been able to burn a complete music cd. I have been everywhere trying to find out why (the pc manufacturer,,they said they couldnt help,, then to store who sold me the pc,, they couldnt help either). So I cant' burn any music cds so far. I get 3 songs burnt and then it all stops after that. Sometimes the wizard says everything burned right and proper, but it only burned 3 or 4 songs and sometimes wouldnt burn at all.
I tried download a patch for Roxio that was supposed to fix Roxios mischievious behavior, but the patch would NOT install onto my pc because it said that there was NOT any Roxio installed on my pc. But the writing wizard did indeed say "software provuded by Roxio Inc."
I decided to bring this up now, because with drchips and the guys who are actively involved, I feel as though there might be some possibility of actually being able to maybe one day (maybe not this year, maybe not the next, but of some day.....getting the #$%%^^&&&**** this Roxio crap out of my computer once and for all). I have been everywhere trying to solve this problem and nada.
On the aspi free software (I downloaded regScrubXP and
Easy Cleaner) like you suggested.
I hope they have easy to understand directions on how to use it.
drchips, I can' wait to hear how your testing comes out. I hope you are going to try to run both (Nero and RecNowMax) using just Neros aspi, because then that would be so much easier for me to deal with (since all I would have to do to install Neros aspi is just to double click on Nero and everything will install on its own to wherever its supposed to install to. You sure are right about MS help site (what a nightmare for a normal sane person to try to muddle thru and try to figure out). Thats why I really dont want to use anything from them as their aspi instructions were just insane.
Thanks again and cant wait to hear your results (if you decide to)about running both programs using only Neros aspi.
smg
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6. January 2004 @ 16:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Veblin,
P know of the programs that came with my dvd burner, but have no idea which if any of them were installed on my pc at the time my dvd burner was installed, because the burner was installed by the techs. at the pc store and they aren't arouind anymore to tell me.
It says in the teeny tiny pamphlet that came with my burner that these are the programs that also come with my Pioneer DVR-A05 device:
SonicMyDVDv4.0
Directx8.1
NTI CD Maker
Cineplayer15
Pinnacle Instant Wtite

Pf course I can't find anything about them either anywhere, so I assume they weren't installed when the techs. put in my dvd burner.
Of course all I want to do is use Nero for music cds and RNM for dvds so I don't care about these programs anyway (I already have DVDXCOPYXPress and Platinum and Squeeze6 which after monhts and months of reading I have narrowed it down to exactly what drchips said about the burning software:
That the majority of people I have come across have had far less problems when using RecordNowMax for their dvd burning, AND that the majority (preferred)
Nero for their music cd burning software (which is why I am so committed to using these 2 programs according to what the majority usues them for).
Thanks again guys for all this unbelievable input.
Thanks Jerry and everyone else who is helping more than I can express properly.
Just Thanks ALOT.
smg
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6. January 2004 @ 17:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hiya smg,

Go ahead and install RecordNow Max AND Nero as you normally would, the testing has already been done, there is no conflict between the two programs.

from my third post
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I even tested the following on the two systems I have that have BOTH Nero and RecordNow Max (with Pioneer drives):

Run RecordNow Max & burn a DVD-R at 2 speed.
WHILE THE DVD IS BURNING,
run Nero and burn a data cd...

Both burned ok, verified ok, and were fully checked using FolderMatch..
For your sake, please, Please, PLEASE GET RID OF ROXIO.

Use RecordNow Max for DVD's.
Use Nero for CD's.

Now, don't take this the wrong way, I am NOT criticising you, but will you please read what I have put in my previous posts about RecordNow Max and ASPI, for example:
from my first post
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RecordNow Max uses the px-engine for access to the writer,
from my seventh post
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I have done some further looking into RecordNow Max and whether it uses ASPI, this is what I did:

Find ALL ASPI dll's and rename them so any attempt to access them would cause an error.
Run a system profiler watching resource usage and file access by RecordNow.
Run RecordNow Max and test, burn and verify a disk.

NO ERRORS REPORTED, disk was fine, profiler showed no attempt to access ASPI in any way.

So, a valid conclusion would be - RecordNow Max V4.5 as downloaded from Stomp DOES NOT USE ASPI.

I could see the px-engine starting, files being accessed & data flowing, BUT NO ASPI.
So, you can stop worrying about ASPI, Nero will use it WHEN IT WANTS TO, and RecordNow Max WILL NOT USE ASPI.

Hope that makes sense...

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6. January 2004 @ 19:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks drchips
I got it. I'l install RNM then reboot, then install Nero, and then I'm all set to burn. oh I didn't take it in the wrong way either :)
I have been just so exasperated from all this problems with not being able to burn even 1 complete music cd (and I know Roxio is behind it). But now, when I can't locate Roxio (except for spotting it as the software used for the cd writing wizard when the wizard window popped up and cancelling my burns) and even the patch from Roxio can't find it on my system, how can I find it to finally Exorcise it from my pc?
Is there a way to delete it in the registry? Because if that's where I have to go, then I'll definetly go in there (whatever it takes to get rid of it).
Thank you again
smg
I got 2 freeware programs (EasyClean & regscrubxp) today, do you think one of them might be able to ferret out Roxio so I can delete it?
drchips
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8. January 2004 @ 17:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hiya smg,
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I got 2 freeware programs (EasyClean & regscrubxp) today, do you think one of them might be able to ferret out Roxio so I can delete it?
Possibly, I don't know the programs, so cannot comment further.

Another utility that might be of help is HiJackThis, have a look at:
http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/

have a GOOD read before using.

You might also have a go at disabling IMAPI to see what effect that has, but do so carefully, bearing in mind some of the warnings posted (I have not investigated such warnings myself).

Good Luck.



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8. January 2004 @ 19:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks again drchips.
I think I will give that a try by disabling the IMAPI
in the Services section. It's a shame they don't a forum just for dealing with the Registry> It would certainly be a great learning room and possibly help out to do things that can't normally done the usual way. I think this case would qualify as one of those.
I wonder how long it would take (going thru the entire registry manually and just checking if Roxio was listed anywhere)?
smg
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8. January 2004 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That last post was just a rhetorical question to myself. I didn't expect anyone to actually know that.But I just had an after thought. I remember you has XP Pro whereas I have XP Home. I just remembered that everyone who had XP Pro did NOT have any problems creating a dvd. I think Win 2000 was also the other OS which seemed to offer no conflicts (or very very few) when making a dvd. But tons of people using XP Home did have problems. I have only used win 98 and XP Home. From your standpoint of using XP Pro,
do you think a novice would have difficulty using Pro for just the usual stuff ie surfing and music cd and movie dvd creating projects?
I have thought of upgrading to Pro in the past for the reasons stated earlier, maybe it's time to do it.
smg
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8. January 2004 @ 19:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I almost forgot.
Thanks for that link to HijackThis.
I'm going there now and get it.
smg
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8. January 2004 @ 19:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I almost forgot.
Thanks for that link to HijackThis.
I'm going there now and get it.
smg
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9. January 2004 @ 06:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
smg,

you would have NO PROBLEMS running XP Pro exactly the same way as you run XP Home, the main differences will show up when you want to take control over how your system operates.

Have Fun...

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9. January 2004 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi drchips
I got another rep.from RecNOwMax who finally confirmed what you said about having 2 burning software programs on the same machine. They did say that you can only have 1 packet writing software installed though because of the packet writing software taking over the drive. Quote "Only 1 packet writing software can have access of the drive at a time". They went on to say that I could have RecNowMax and Nero and Roxio all installed onto the pc together, but that quote "You can only have one of the following, DLA or InCD or Direct CD".
Although I would love to get rid of Roxio at least it is supposed to be ok on my pc (but I suspect they are mistaken about this as too many people have been having problems with Roxio, and as you said I intend to try to get rid of it if it's at all possible).
They said I would have to do a custom install of the programs in order to install only 1 packet writing software. Exactly how do I go about that?
They also finally succeeded to the fact that RecNowMax doesn't have an aspi (big surprise). If only the people who were responsible for the creation and distribution of these products were half as inquisitive as you were and actually tried to learn more about their products, maybe the whole issue wouldn't be such a quagmire of what ifs.
Thanks again friend for the help.And if you can explain to me just how one is supposed to install only 1 packet writing software, I would really appreciate it as I really am curious about this whole thing now. In fact, after now knowing the order in which to install each software, I think this is the last problem that stands in my way (except for getting rid of Roxio of course).
I have already downloaded their PX engine and know from them that after I install RecNowMax, then I install the PX engine after that. And then its Neros turn. But is InCD Neros Packet writing software? I think I may have seen something like that at Neros homepage of downloads. I will have to go back there and see if I can find out.
smg
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9. January 2004 @ 12:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hiya smg,

unless you have an OVERPOWERING NEED for packet-writing software, do NOT install it.

In general, it is (or tends to be) vendor specific.

Years of experience has shown me that it can SERIOUSLY DE-STABILISE your machine (unless you know EXACTLY HOW to set things up and keep them that way).

I suspect your "Roxio Problem" is just that, packet writing software: look here for info on Roxio's version of packet-writing and some info about IMAPI:
http://www.roxio.com/en/products/ecdc/faq.jhtml#DragtoDisc

I have a tendency to know what I am doing and I absolutely refuse to have packet-writing on any of the systems I am responsible for (CDs are dirt-cheap, CD-Writers are bl**dy fast nowadays, so just burn what you need - who cares if it does not use the full capacity of the disk).
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But is InCD Neros Packet writing software?
YES.

Simply install Nero, the InCD install on the Nero disk is a separate entity - simply do not install it.

Nice to see that Stomp Tech Support finally agrees with me (Oooohhhh, watch my head swell!!!).

Have Fun...



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9. January 2004 @ 12:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the site. I don't care about a full disc either concerning cd-rs. As I have found out that since degradation can start in approx. 2 years when a cd-r will begin to degrade, I read somewhere that to prolong the life of said cd-r that one should notburn more than 500 mb onto a typical 750 or whatever it is cd-r thus prolonging the life of that cd-r because of the degradation starting from the outside in (and cds being written from the inside out).
I will make sure to not install InCD or any of those other 2 packet writing softwares if I should happen to see them while installing RecNowMax and Nero.
That Roxio site seems loaded. Hope I find out how to uninstall it :)
Thank again friend.
Oh I wasn't doubting what you were saying, I just thought it might give your funny bone a laugh to know how unprofessional some of these people at these sites can be. ( and their lack of knowledge about their own products).
smg
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9. January 2004 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey SMG,

I tried to respond on the 6th., but was unable too. I was going to suggest that either NTI CD Maker or Pinnacle Instant Write might be your problem. More than likely its Pinnacle. That is probably the packet writing software giving you the problems your having trying to burn music cd's.

Just go to add/remove programs and remove it. Then use explore and delete the program folder and all files for it. Sometimes when doing a uninstall it don't remove the program from the programs entry from the main start menu programs link. If not just click on start, programs and right click the Pinnacle entry and chose delete. That should remove it from there.

If you go into the registry beware. You could do a find on pinnacle and look for any entries for Instant Write and delete those keys for it, but if you delete something you shouldn't you could screw up other programs that use shared files.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

alleng1usa
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Hey alleng
Thanks. I don't think I have either of those installed though. I have only seen that reference to Roxio when the cd writing wizard popped up with a couldnt finish the process etc.
I do know though that the NTI does come on the Win cd as I was considering using it at one time when I discovered I couldnt make a complete music cd. I changed my mind after hearing about Nero and decided to give it a go instead.
As usual neither NTI or Roxio of Pinnacle appear anywhere in the ADD/REMOVE programs (big surprise).
I appreciate your help, maybe I have NTI or Pinnacle installed also but just can't see it anywhere.
But thanks for that advice. I will dive into the Registry and see if any of those programs do appear anywhere in there.
In the meantime I am going to learn how to use a program that drchips turned me on to (HijackThis).
And when I feel confident enough, I will use it to see if I can't at least get rid of Roxio.
smg
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11. January 2004 @ 15:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SMG,

Like I stated it could be possible that either NTI or Pinnacle may be compiled by Roxio. My reason for believing this is your comment about seeing it in when the CD wizard pops up. Sonic MYDVD is for making Video CD's and DVD's, DirectX is needed for multimedia and Cineplayer 15 is more than likely for playback of VCD's or DVD's.

The only other 2 applications you listed was Pinnacle which appears to be a packet writing software program and NTI CD Maker which I assume is for writing data and making audio CD's.

When you check the registrey look for the NTI CD Maker. Like I said NTI might be wrote by Roxio for the burner manufacture of the burner you purchased. If thats the case Roxio won't show up in the registrey.

Good luck and I hope your able to correct this. I also am a newbie still reading as much as possible before I attempt to back up my dvd's or copy my vhs tapes I captured off tv over the last 15 to 20 years, plus those I purchased.

My last attempt to capture one had a jumpy screen througout the picture. Even though it played fine on my tv. I watched the movie while my pc was doing it's work.

Let me know how this comes out.

alleng1

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11. January 2004 @ 15:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SMG,

Also, as Jackie Chan's Uncle would say "One more thing". You probably should go to Windows Update and download the latest version DirectX9 for your O.S.

alleng1

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11. January 2004 @ 18:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks again alleng.
I had planned on originally of transfering all of my vhs movies onto dvds, but after just a short while gave up on it as it seemed too confusing (I want all my dvds to be able to be played in a standalone player)and I couldn't decide which would be the best video card that didn't cost an arm and a leg to buy. But just trying to dig up an easy to understand guide and what was needed seemed beyond me.
Can you tell me what card you plan to use and let me know if you are able to get the dvds to play correctly but also will they play in a standalone player correctly. I have at least 300 vhs movies that if I can ever find a good guide how-to, I might reconsider the whole idea if someone else has luck with it.
Thanks again for that advice. I have downloaded DirectX9 and burnt it to a cd already (but have not yet actually installed yet as I am going to be doing another factory system restore before I do any dvd creating as I am also trying to find out if one should or should not MS Service Pack 1 installedwhen doing this dvd stuff. Apparently this one real smart guy thought one should mot have any Service Packs installed when dvd authoring (I think it was the guy from Doom9 but am not sure as I have been to so many places researching). So naturally I want to reformat and get it off my sytem first before I begin any dvd work. Please let me know how you are doing with your vhs to dvd project, as I might give it a try later on if you are successful.
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12. January 2004 @ 01:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Transfering VHS to DVD probably will require at least two discs per movie. When you copy a VHS tape to your hard disk it is in AVI format compression. When you decompress it into mpeg2 the resulting file is larger than 4.7 gigs.

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Hiya Guys,

Sophocles said:
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Transfering VHS to DVD probably will require at least two discs per movie
Not right, depends on the encoding.
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When you decompress it into mpeg2 the resulting file is larger than 4.7 gigs.
Not right, depends on the encoding.

Admittedly, the initial captured file may be HUGE, but the output file from the encoder (TMPGEnc 2.5 for example) can be whatever size required.

It is a tradeoff between Quality and Size by adjusting bitrates, encoding standard and other variables too numerous to mention.

Think of it this way:

2 Hours of film on a DVD is acceptable quality.

Using the correct tools, in a competent manner, it is perfectly possible to transfer a 2 Hour film from VHS to DVD with very little Quality loss.

It is NOT QUICK, it is NOT SIMPLE, but it is perfectly within the bounds of achievable just using what is available to your PC.

I have done it a number of times.

If the DVD production house can get 2 Hours of film on a DVD at reasonable quality, I am DA*N SURE I CAN!!

Have Fun...

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Hi SMG & Drchips,

SMG, from what I understand you have too have MS SP1 for WindowsXP installed in order for XP to work properly. Also you will have to reactivate it online with Microsoft.

My system is a Abit KG7{non raid}, AMD 1400 TBird Processor, 1 Gig Crucial PC2100 DDR, 160 Gig WD Hard Drives {2-80's}, Phillips DVD+R/RW228 master, Memorex CD/DVDRom slave. My capture card is ATI AIW 9700 Pro w/128Mb's mem, Sound Blaster Audigy ll, 6.1 Creative Speaker System and Iomega Paralle Zip 100 and Visoneer 3300 Scanner.

I captured a taped movie I edited out commercials from while taping. Total time approximately 92 minutes. I captured to:
DVD High Mpeg2
Video 720x480, NTSC {525}, 6.00 M b/s.
Audio 48,000 KHz, 16 Bit stereo

The file size 4,192,448Kbs

The picture appeared to be jumpy as if signal strenght was weak and being lost. That could be due to the fact my connection from my HDTV to the AIW is about 15 feet. It could also be due to the mode I set for capture. Since DVD I believe is 1:1 I also had dropped frames. The picture on my HDTV did not jump, but was not too good since I was using an amplified antenna for my signal input when all my VHS tapes were made. I have seen a number of posts that state one should capture to AVI Full Res and then convert using TMPGEnc.

Another option is too capture too:
Full Resolution
Video 720x480, NTSC {525}, 7.20 M bit/sec
Audio 44.100KHz, 16 bit stereo

Like you SMG I am a total newbie too, I also have over 250 VHS tapes of shows with commercials edited out while recording that I want to convert to both DVD and VCD depending on size and time of show taped. Most tapes will end up on DVD, these are the 2 hour movies {Minus commercials} and the rest as VCD's {1/2 hour kids shows w/o commercials}.

Good Luck with burning cd audio's SMG.

DrChips,

I noticed that you are quite knowledgeable in the area of DVD and VCD. Your posts and those of others I have read show that if one needs help they need look no further than the Afterdawn forum sight. I always find some information that is/or might be useful too me somewhere down the line as I learn a whole new field in backing up my tapes or dvd's. Thanks too people like you it makes the process that much easier in learning how to back up their valuable tapes and disks.

God Bless and please continue to help out us newbies as we go through the learning process. It is very mucn appreciated.

alleng1



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12. January 2004 @ 17:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hiya Guys,

alleng1,
I thank you for the kind words, the people here (the majority anyway) are kindly folk, willing to help, and a thank you can go a long way.

I think you are on the right sort of lines in trying to capture analogue video into your system.

Might I suggest a few things:

A lousy signal going into your capture device is a waste of time, improve the signal somehow (disconnect other devices etc.)

Always try and capture at the HIGHEST POSSIBLE QUALITY that your system will support: the file you capture is the foundation for everything that follows, if the foundation is not of the best possible quality, the end result will not be of the best possible quality (once detail is lost, it cannot be regained).

Your AIW 9700 is a good general-purpose card, but it is NOT designed for high-quality analogue capture, so you will have to help it along a bit.

Your 1400 TBird is not really powerful enough, so you will have to help it along a bit.

Everything else is fine.

When you are going to capture analogue video, try and shut down as many processes as possible:
Defrag your hard drives (both of them).
Physically disconnect from the internet (unplug it even), this is because you will be shutting down any protection you may have.
Shut down ALL firewall software
Shut down AntiVirus.
Shut down as much of the Creative support software as you can.
Shut down every background and foreground process you can (without de-stabilising your system) - this will have to be a process of trial-and-error to see what works.
Switch off the scanner.

This will give your system the maximum resources (cpu cycles, ram and hard drive).

You may have to experiment to see what the maximum quality you can capture is WITHOUT DROPPING FRAMES (dropped frames can manifest itself as audio synch problems later in the process).

Be aware, it is easy to make problems for yourself with respect to audio synching, if you get it right at the beginning it is easier later on.

Another thing to watch out for is the synchronisation of video capture and audio capture clocks (the graphics card and the sound card have timing clocks on them and if you work them too hard the clocks can start to wander out of synch).


Those are just some of the reasons for maximising the resources of your system.

Remember, you DON'T HAVE TO CAPTURE THE WHOLE FILM IN ONE GO, you can do it in multiple segments and join them later (that can minimise audio synch problems).

It takes a lot of experimentation to learn what your systems maximum capability is, so stick at it and you will get there.

Good Luck...

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