First off let me start by apologizing for starting another thread on this subject. I know how annoying it can be that each time another random guy comes around looking for answers that are already posted.
But, as one of the threads here mentioned the Wii community is progressing very fast, and so I'm not sure if some of the answers given here are up to date, plus some of the things I didn't get really good.
So, I would appreciate if someone could help and answer my questions with more in-depth. Plus, I'm on sort of a limited time, so quickness if of the essence :)
1) I've read that to burn games you have to own one of 5 different model types of the LG series drive. Is it necessary for 100% working CD or for a working one in general? in other words, do I have to own it or will other drives work just with less assurance?
2) At the moment I'm not looking for running the game yet, I don't own a chip and not even thinking about buying one anytime soon, I just want to backup the games that I own for the "In case of" situation. So again, the LG drive is also important for copying the CD to my computer of just for burning it so I could play?
3) A question for the future with less importance at the moment. I've seen some people discuss the problems with Firm Upgrades that Nintendo is releasing with the capability of the Wii chips, Is it the case that if I'll install a chip there's a big probability that I won't be able to install the upgrades properly?
4) Can anyone guide me to thread of give me some details about the differences of the Wii Chips that are out there? I've heard about D2C, Wiinja and WiiKey but besides the different groups behind each one I still don't get why should anyone get one and not the other.
Thank you very much for helping me, and for just giving your time to even read this.
Hope I'm not too much of a burden.
1.only the lg ones (8161 - 8164) for backing up
for burning it doesn't really matter
2.yes,you need the lg drive to backup your game.Or you can use the wiikey config disc with an sd gecko
3.till this moment no , np at all
4.not all chips work on all wii's bacause there were hardware changes.Check which chipset you have through your serial and then decide.If you recently bought your wii,you'll have to take wasabi,d2ckey or d2pro
I've started reading more about the different chips and still people say different stuff about the same chips, so if anyone could verify this information:
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D2CKey - made by Wiikey team - 31 Wires - programmable?? - Amazingly solid chip.
D2CPro - Shitty knock off of the D2Ckey - DONT BUY IT.
D2Pro - 15-19 Wire version of the D2Ckey - Updatable Chip - Amazingly solid chip!!
Argon - Very comparable with D2Pro - may have better support for updates though
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and if all that is said there is true, does it mean that in case of an upgrade from Nintendo's side to the Wii unless it's an upgradeable chip the Nintendo will brick? (or of course it has ghost option and then you just shut it off)
and one last thing, as of now it seems like the only 2 options that I stand with (living in this late entertainment technology country) are
D2C
D2C Pro
WiiKey
And this probably goes back to the first question, because from what I know right now the WiiKey is upgradgeable while the D2C is a solid one. So, should I get one of these or wait for the Argon to arrive (or a newer better version)?
And with following everything to prevent it, as much as I can, what is the chance of bricking my Wii?
and one last question -
I've heard about a Brick Blocking software of a sort, can someone point me to a source where I can read about it.
Originally posted by Tom262: D2CKey - made by Wiikey team - 31 Wires - programmable?? - Amazingly solid chip.
Not upgradeable and the last D2C chip you should buy apart from...
Originally posted by Tom262: D2CPro - Shitty knock off of the D2Ckey - DONT BUY IT.
Just a D2CKey copy
Originally posted by Tom262: D2Pro - 15-19 Wire version of the D2Ckey - Updatable Chip - Amazingly solid chip!!
Good chip - worth considering if it's cheap enough compared to Argon
Originally posted by Tom262: Argon - Very comparable with D2Pro - may have better support for updates though
Best chip alongside Infectus 2 with the ability to be fully re-programmed and very future-proof (Infectus 2 is multi-platform).
Originally posted by Tom262: and if all that is said there is true, does it mean that in case of an upgrade from Nintendo's side to the Wii unless it's an upgradeable chip the Nintendo will brick? (or of course it has ghost option and then you just shut it off)
You can't say what will happen but bricks are NOT caused by the chip whatever it is. It's caused by updating the Wii with stuff that isn't supposed to be there like code for a Wii from a different region which is what happens when ppl update with imported games without checking if it's safe. All chips are stealth enabled so you don't really shut them off. The D2cKey is actually very unusual in that it isn't updateable - I think that's a downside myself.
Originally posted by Tom262: and one last thing, as of now it seems like the only 2 options that I stand with (living in this late entertainment technology country) are
D2C
D2C Pro
WiiKey
Wiikeys are for earlier chipsets - not D2C... if you have D2C chipset it's no good to you. Also only Argon, Infectus 2, and Wasabi work on all chipsets. Other D2C chips won't work on earlier chipsets.
Originally posted by Tom262: And this probably goes back to the first question, because from what I know right now the WiiKey is upgradgeable while the D2C is a solid one. So, should I get one of these or wait for the Argon to arrive (or a newer better version)?
And with following everything to prevent it, as much as I can, what is the chance of bricking my Wii?
Wiikey vc D2C - answered and you can't compare them. If you learn as much as you can about Region bricking and get used to taking simple precautions you won't brick. Argon is best - that's all I can tell you.
Originally posted by Tom262: I've heard about a Brick Blocking software of a sort, can someone point me to a source where I can read about it.
Thanks again, Tom :)
Ok - there is plenty of info here including the thread I gave you. You could have actually found out all you need to know by spending a bit of time reading through some threads here cos your Qs are asked all the time. Even asking for info about brick blocking is really unnecessary because you can see it right in front of you. If you want to move on with confidence then your first decision should be to read up on what existing info there is and ask questions when you've been through it all.
To you and others it may seem that it's hard work to grasp what guys like me know, but truth... I decided to buy a Wii last October and I knew absolutely nothing. I researched chips and read as much as I could on various forums and sites. I never had to ask a single question because there are guides all over the place as well as loads of threads discussing the best chips etc. and I've stayed current ever since.
