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US Attorney General claims piracy funds terrorism

article published on 29 March, 2008

During a speech to Silicon Valley executives at the Tech Museum of Innovation, Attorney General Michael Mukasey warned that the "enormous" profits made from counterfeiting and piracy is flowing into the hands of terrorists and terrorist organizations. Mukasey added that the "economy and national security of the United States are increasingly threatened by violations involving copyrighted ... [ read the full article ]

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Toonz1
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29. March 2008 @ 16:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I thought it funded blank media companies.
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29. March 2008 @ 17:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my @** funds terrorism. Every time i take a $h** i pollute the world. I say that is a type of terrorism right there.
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29. March 2008 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
any money going towards the republicans is supporting terrorism.
they should smarten the f*ck up. pull their heads out of their asses.
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29. March 2008 @ 18:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ugh politics politics politics..
single minded party members should quiet down..

but aside
it's like saying you downloading porn supports rape.
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29. March 2008 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is the funiest S!!! I have herd. but I fear this is a way that Big Bro will be able to slo down The world of Warez.
Because Boys and girls if this statment(US Attorney General claims piracy funds terrorism) gets adopted by the United States Senate.
The Goverment will be able to shut down a site just in the name of national securty. no if's ands are buts.
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29. March 2008 @ 18:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Arms to Iran anybody?? For many years the USA funded Irish terrorist groups directly responsible for murder and disruption over decades.

I really wouldn't be surprised to find one day that the US military has been supplying terrorists in the Middle East to justify keeping the defence budget high, and making armaments sellers like Rumsfeld even more money.

Do you have middle fingers?? ( I wasn't born with enough.. another 8 will be nice) Show them to idiots like this by pirating everything.. death to the riaa/mpaa
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29. March 2008 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is nothing more than another way for the 'Feds' to support thier illegal Patriot Act. The wost terrorists I know of is our own government. Their scpecultaions and assumptions strike fear into the common person. There for most people are willing to give up everything to be 'safe'. Including their constitutional rights. What america really needs to understand is that safety is a state of mind. We will never stop terrorism nor does the government want to. If thier was nothing to fear 'Big Brother' would lose it's control over the populace.

EDIT: LOVE my country; FEAR my government

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29. March 2008 @ 18:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just for anyone wondering..this is not a Democrat or Republican thing. This is a right and wrong thing. Both political parties are to blame for these sort of infractions against liberty and privacy. On both sides of the aisle we find hucksters like these trying to further their own careers at the expense of everyone else.

They will not rest until everyone is tracked/monitored 24/7.

When Social Security was first enacted decades ago, it was said repeatedly that it would never ever EVER be used for purposes of identification. Yet try renting a car without it, taking out a student loan, bank loan, DSL service, etc.
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Γιατί soes thes να μην με εκπλήξει στη μίσθωση.Όπως είπα προτού να πάρει έναν άλλο εμφύλιο πόλεμο για να σπάσει αυτήν την έξαλλη συμπεριφορά.Κατόπιν πάλι μπορεί ήδη να είναι αργά να σταματηθεί
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29. March 2008 @ 20:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol same article new people same posts new posters
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29. March 2008 @ 20:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by spiesfan:
lol same article new people same posts new posters
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29. March 2008 @ 21:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Who pays for stolen movies? lol... seriously only dumb asses pay for counterfeit movies and such. No one buys anything when they pirate, so therefore how do the terrorists gain from nothing unless... OMG terrorist invented torrents to terrorize the movie industry!
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29. March 2008 @ 21:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
terrorism how? maybe in small ways like most illicit things do but frankly them brining contraband into their own countries is more profitable the piracy aspect... thats like saying every copy copied is a 1=1 loss of profit.....
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29. March 2008 @ 21:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ohh Lord!!! Yea Right.. I would think buying the actual product would support terrorism. The U.S. is the world's biggest terrorist orginzation!
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29. March 2008 @ 21:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i wonder what percentage of the cases of ip crimes that have been prosecuted since 2005 have had a direct impact on the finances of terrorists? where are THOSE statistics, hmmm?? how many of you want to bet less than 1%, if that? i'm sorry, but the attorney general is just blowing smoke up johnny q. public's ass. what a waste of time - one can only hope that the majority of people aren't listening to this guy.
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You know those terrorist of gone bankrupt when when they Swap a Cruze Missile with A 747 poor poor terrorists. i bet Ja;heed Whould not be pleased at all.
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29. March 2008 @ 22:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Toonz1:
I thought it funded blank media companies.

LoL... Sooo true
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29. March 2008 @ 23:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
quick poll... has anyone here made money off pirating a movie, game, music etc... not enough to fund a terror camp, i've lost money technically, between power, discs, time, internet, etc... hmmmm????

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30. March 2008 @ 02:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i guess if i go to 7-11 & buy my Riped movies i am really supporting it then! huh?
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Guys... Whooooaa. Slow down. Let's look at the article objectively.

This article is not referring to people that pirate for their own purposes or even the person down the road that has a catalog set up on word that he/she distrubutes via e-mail etc.

This article is referring to the professional underground operations that have factories equipped with machines that press discs (not burn) that look almost as good as the original. These underground operations are rampant in places in the World where violence and terrorism are of major concern. Also, it is important to note that they don't churn out 20 or 30 a day, like the person running the dodgy little business down the road. We are talking about hundreds (if not thousands) of discs every day. Many of those discs are exported illegally and find their way off shore to flea markets, street vendors etc.

It is actually quite well known (well maybe not so well known by looking at these posts) that terrorist organisations and gangs are turning to DVD pirating as a more lucrative business than drugs. If you don't believe this, please do some research. I think you will be astonished at the results of your findings.

How many of you here making these comments have been to a developing or war stricken Country?

In some of these developing Countries it's actually almost impossible to find legitimate DVD's, CD's etc. even if you wanted to. How much corruption do you think exists in places like that? Where do you think the funds go to? It certainly isn't used for planting trees!

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For many years the USA funded Irish terrorist groups directly responsible for murder and disruption over decades.
Most of those guns were purchased by Irish Nationalists. Pubs had tip jars for raising blood money. IRA members visited these places while here on vaction regularly. We still have an INLA supporter with his commie terrorist heroes posters on the wall of his beer joint.

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Just for anyone wondering..this is not a Democrat or Republican thing. This is a right and wrong thing.


NO! Its been going on for decades since the end of World War 2

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When Social Security was first enacted decades ago, it was said repeatedly that it would never ever EVER be used for purposes of identification. Yet try renting a car without it, taking out a student loan, bank loan, DSL service, etc.
No kidding! Our corrupt rulers have never tried to enforce this law. Their immigration laws are ignored too. Just the other day, I saw an article about how damned rarely that federal gun laws are enforced, when convicted criminals are caught red handed with an illegal firearm!

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Who pays for stolen movies? lol... seriously only dumb asses pay for counterfeit movies and such.
We sure don't; but foreigners often sell them at flea markets. They come from countries where nobody much cares about copyright laws; so they'll do it in the USA too. Asia is full of pirated movies. I saw a police raid on the news; where some Mexicans got busted for bootleg DVDs in California just a few months ago...

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@cousinkix, it looks like we were posting at the same time. My post is just above yours ^. I think you will find that I share a more realistic viewpoint, much like yourself.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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i don't know about anybody else, i have bought a lot of dvd's from a lot of places, flea markets, pawn shops, yard sales, and i have yet to come across a bootleg dvd, and i have at least six Thousand and just as many backups, but i have never meet anyone who has paid for a bootleg dvd, but i do know what to look for when i am buying dvd's
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Piracy, Paedophiles and Terrorism is how they are destroying our liberties with us all peacefully accepting it.

YOU all do know that before the illegal invasion of Iraq there were NO terrorists in the country, PPL you really need to read history because the rhetoric and propaganda that is put out by the western governments with the aid of corporate media is mostly LIES.


great movie about the destruction of UK rights by the labour government.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doci...earch&plindex=0

If you live in the USA, well you are F****D as your gov does not care what you or congress thinks, they will continue to act as they have been for years.

American foreign policy funds terrorism not piracy.

NEVER forget Rachel Corrie murdered by an Israel bulldozer.

Military AID is free weapons, 30 billion $ worth for Israel on top of the $24 billion America has already given, to continue, to illegally occupy Palestine and slaughter its inhabitants paid for by the American tax $!

In the official American 9/11 report Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's main motivation behind the attack was Americas continued support for ISRAEL this is in black and white freely available to anyone that can read! The pdf 9/11 report, its very heavy reading but i can help *5.2 The Planes Operation report page 154 about half way down "U.S. Support for Israel"*
http://www.9-11commission.gov

Report download page:

There was the public 9/11 commission on c-span stating that the main reason for the 9/11 attacks was the continued support for Israel in their quest to cleans the occupied state "Palestine" C-Span video can be found on youtube and here is the link:


Israel Violates UN Security Council, Occupying Syria's Land with Noam Chomsky: CLICK


Analysis: New US-Israeli arms deal (BBC) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6949904.stm
Originally posted by bbc link:
Thursday, 16 August 2007, 16:02 GMT 17:02 UK
This new agreement sets increased levels of US military aid for Israel over the coming decade.
In broad terms, Israel will receive a total of some $30bn (£14.8bn) in military aid, a significant increase over $24bn (£12bn) it received over the past 10 years.
US ARMS AID TO ISRAEL
$30bn over 10 years
1st payment of $2.55bn in 2008
Annual payments rising to $3.1bn by 2011
26.3% can be spent in Israel
Rest must be spent on US arms

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Originally posted by rdmercer1:
i don't know about anybody else, i have bought a lot of dvd's from a lot of places, flea markets, pawn shops, yard sales, and i have yet to come across a bootleg dvd, and i have at least six Thousand and just as many backups, but i have never meet anyone who has paid for a bootleg dvd, but i do know what to look for when i am buying dvd's
First of all, I would like to point out that my previous post indicated that some of them are done so professionally that it's identical to the real thing. If you know exactly what to look for, that's great! :-D

Also as I mentioned previously, the level of this problem varies greatly depending on where in the World you are. In some countries (Asia especially) it is hard to find legitamate DVD's & CD's, even if you wanted to! As an example, I was in Vietnam about 4 months ago and in every store you could only find pirated DVD's, VCD's and CD's etc. They openly sell these discs as if they were the real thing. Nobody cares! It is completely normal there. Even PS2's are sold pre-modded! As you can only buy bootlegged games.

Keep in mind that I am not referring to anything done for personal use. I am also not innocent of this. However, one thing I can not stand is underground organisations or people that make a huge profit out of Piracy. These are the people that are truly crippling the industry.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

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