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Europe to offer movies on self-erasing DVDs
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article published on 18 April, 2008
Italy, France, Germany and Scandinavia have begun offering DVD movies on a new format called DVD-D which is unique because it is self-erasing.
By self erasing I mean that the content on the discs are erased exactly 8 hours after the movie is first played in any DVD player or PC drive. The timer is slightly longer for DVD-Ds that have software on them, 48 hours to be exact. The new format ... [ read the full article ]
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psplvanub
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18. April 2008 @ 19:25 |
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a gold age for free movies. if we cracked psp we can sure as hell crack this
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varnull
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18. April 2008 @ 19:47 |
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And what about the cost to the environment?? Stupid wasteful idea. What are you supposed to do with these things when the time is up?? oh yes.. throw them in the trash... It's time the governments who blow on so much about recycling and renewables addressed the real core issues.. WASTE caused by over production and disposable goods.
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18. April 2008 @ 19:59 |
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I bought AnyDVD for a reason and stuff like this is one of them
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18. April 2008 @ 20:13 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
And what about the cost to the environment?? Stupid wasteful idea. What are you supposed to do with these things when the time is up?? oh yes.. throw them in the trash... It's time the governments who blow on so much about recycling and renewables addressed the real core issues.. WASTE caused by over production and disposable goods.
Hey Jan, in my haste I missed adding a key point to the article. The discs and packages are fully recyclable.
I will update it now, thanks for reminding me.
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DTN107
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18. April 2008 @ 20:34 |
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Hey Jan, in my haste I missed adding a key point to the article. The discs and packages are fully recyclable.
I will update it now, thanks for reminding me.
Although is it fully recyclable, just how many will recycle it?
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CNDLG
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18. April 2008 @ 20:41 |
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Originally posted by psplvanub:
a gold age for free movies. if we cracked psp we can sure as hell crack this
If they have no (time limiting) software on them, then they must have a physical component. The discs i have heard about have a peel off layer that you must remove to be able to read the disc. Once removed there is a chemical that reacts with the air to turn the surface from transparent to opaque. It give the user a given number of hours before its too dark for a DVD player to read. If thats the case good luck on finding any other solution other than ripping.
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18. April 2008 @ 21:13 |
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Hmmm.. I'd say 8 hours is sufficient to copy a disc haha. Hell... you could copy it a few hundred times.. even if it was "one time use" you could still copy the data and put it on a Disc that didn't waste so much plastic on a society that won't take the time to sort it from their normal trash.
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18. April 2008 @ 21:17 |
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The real question is why is the "special" disk 1/3rd the price of a regular DVD? They contain the same data....and it sure does not cost 10 bucks to produce a standard DVD.
Who are they fooling? Why not just cut the price of regular DVD's 66% and be done with it?
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18. April 2008 @ 21:44 |
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wow this is stupid. Why would people buy something that's going to self destruct? This can't be environmentally friendly. Yeah it can be recycled, but the production of dvd and compact disc is SO bad for the environment because of the emissions it puts out. This will only triple the production line.
Sorry to get so Al Gore on you
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tripplite
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18. April 2008 @ 22:51 |
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i think is pretty dam cool:) .......i dont really see the point to it though.....i mean who wants a DVD that stops working after a few views? but its just kinda cool......can't think of a good reason to use it yet.......
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varnull
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18. April 2008 @ 22:56 |
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"This tape will self destruct in ten seconds"... and there was always a bin handy.. did you notice?
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CNDLG
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19. April 2008 @ 02:19 |
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Originally posted by tripplite:
i think is pretty dam cool:) .......i dont really see the point to it though.....i mean who wants a DVD that stops working after a few views? but its just kinda cool......can't think of a good reason to use it yet.......
Who wants it? the people that pay for rentals that they copy that are too lazy to take them back...just put them in the trash!!
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ematrix
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19. April 2008 @ 04:32 |
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I agree with PantherM... Why not just cut the price of regular DVD's 66% and be done with it? A lot of people don't use online movie rentals like iTunes, because the movies become inoperative after a few hours, and now here's a disc that does exactly the same.
Granted that people that rent movies may find it appealing, but renting a movie from your local BB is much cheaper, and this format intents to inforce control on your viewing habits, which contradicts the sole purpose of getting movies on video, which is to view them, when and how it's convenient for you, as many times as you wish to, regardless if you bought or rented them.
Imagine you actually get one of these DVD-D movies, you start watching it at home when you get back from work, and you fall asleep at the middle of it... by the time you wake up, the disc has self-erased.
This is just one example of several inconvenient situations that consumers will face with this format, and i agree with hulud86, this can't be consumer and environmentally friendly, as once those discs are useless, they'll end up in the trash, and people will be left with nothing to show off for the money they spent on them.
Finally, if they're able to offer you movies on DVD-D at 1/3 the price of standard retail DVDs, it only confirms us what all have been saying for the past years, that it actually costs much less than 5 bucks for them to produce a regular DVD movie, therefore why after ten years, they keep offering us overpriced DVD movies? GREED!
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19. April 2008 @ 04:37 |
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With some of the rubbish movies I've seen lately, this will be a very nice feature.
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nobrainer
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19. April 2008 @ 04:44 |
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Originally posted by psplvanub:
a gold age for free movies. if we cracked psp we can sure as hell crack this
inevitably! But every one is climbing on the DRM ladder recently to please the MPAA.
@ kiwi1
i fully agree, out of the many films i have seen lately only a handful are worth adding to my collection as hollywood much like game publishers now are relying on special effects to sell the media which mostly sucks.
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19. April 2008 @ 11:53 |
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I saw this in Arizona a couple of years back. In alot of gas stations and corner markets they had little racks with "disposable dvds" in them. After you played the movie it would erase. I guess they didn't take off because I haven't seen them around since.
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19. April 2008 @ 18:53 |
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Seems like another not so brilliant marketing idea. The only thing this really shows is indeed just how much overpriced a normal DVD is, if this costs 30% of a normal DVD and this probably still gives the studios at least 30% of the price, then the margins on a regular DVD are absolutely astronomical.
So that is where they get all the money they pour into producing crappy movies that are not worth paying for in the first place.
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19. April 2008 @ 23:29 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
And what about the cost to the environment?? Stupid wasteful idea. What are you supposed to do with these things when the time is up?? oh yes.. throw them in the trash... It's time the governments who blow on so much about recycling and renewables addressed the real core issues.. WASTE caused by over production and disposable goods.
varnull
you are an optimistic dreamer aren't you? Bless you for trying. :-)
Maybe we could name what you have the "King Canute Syndrome" (incidentally, i bet you know that you aren't the only one who has it).
There we are standing on the beach ordering the oceanic tide to go back but to no avail. Sometimes one of us goes into the ocean, sometimes one of us comes out of the ocean, depends upon what we are trying to stop.
Hmm, this has possibilities. The ocean and the waves are us, of course. the whitecaps and the surfers are, in this case, the scum or businessmen/robbers/banditti. :-)
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20. April 2008 @ 10:13 |
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What's stopping me from recording from the output of my TV or my DVD player? Lol.
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nobrainer
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20. April 2008 @ 10:46 |
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Originally posted by Mik3h:
What's stopping me from recording from the output of my TV or my DVD player? Lol.
hmm, css, macrovision or any other drm they wish to use but seems its DVD it will be easily bypassed.
if it were blu-ray discs, they could use the phone home ability to check if it was a valid serial number before playback is allowed!
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tripplite
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20. April 2008 @ 10:54 |
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hey nobrainer? i got a question for you?
why do you hate organized society soo much?
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tleewade
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21. April 2008 @ 06:19 |
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great just as good as disappirng money.
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21. April 2008 @ 08:11 |
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Originally posted by Mik3h:
What's stopping me from recording from the output of my TV or my DVD player? Lol.
Macrovision, of course.
If the disposable disc contains the macrosucktion flag, you won't be able to (say) pipe the output from your dvd player into (say) a dvd recorder.
Most (regular) dvds I've tried this with don't work either. My Pioneer dvd recorder stops dead in it's tracks with Macrosucktioned discs. [shrug]
Gotta properly rip 'em first, I say. I'm sure the powers-that-be have already thought this thing out to the Nth-degree, *but*, assuming these silly little things hang around long-enough to catch-on, it should be a lot of FUN trying to beat this thing.
Disney tried foisting this 'disposable-disc' thingee on us some years back, to a resounding failure. The whole concept hit the recycle bin almost before the used-up discs did. <gg>
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varnull
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21. April 2008 @ 08:39 |
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@ Tashammer.. That's exactly what people said to Cnut when he set himself up on a beach to show the futility of trying to stop the inevitable.
These things aren't inevitable, they probably break quite a few European renewables laws. Then there is the "carbon offsetting"
Never fear, some of us don't live with our heads stuck up our a$$es accepting all the BS that comes from hollywood blindly and without question.
It isn't materials we are running short of.. it's energy. the best way to save energy is not, as some people think, by recycling.. Oh no.. It's by not producing time expired broken by design disposables in the first place therefore saving the energy twice.. once when the landfill filling junk is made, and again when it's recycled.
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21. April 2008 @ 14:50 |
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Well I can think of two big operations that would love the technology. Netflix and Blockbuster online mail outs. It would saving them current postage rates of 41cents(one way) US. Probably get the discs in bulk for a dime. $.30 profit on each mail out with no return postage. Environmentally, a disaster but so is bottled water! Whatever happened to drinking fountains and mayo jars for water on trips. It's bad enough, they can market AIR in a can, to blow away dust. Go figure. I want to be KING!
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