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WiiKey - Wii DVD Laser question
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madmerc
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21. April 2008 @ 21:09 |
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Hey Guys,
Sorry, I'm a noob to mod chips.
I was wondering, after burning DVDs of Wii games and then playing them on a WiiKey modded Wii, won't the DVD laser die after a while?
I mean a manufactured CD will be safer for a DVD drive to read vs. a DVD burned from home right?
Won't there be a no disk error after a while? This happened to my Dreamcast/PS2, won't the same happen to my Wii?
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AfterDawn Addict
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21. April 2008 @ 22:47 |
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My Wii isn't modded "yet". But my modded Dreamcast ad PS2 still work fine. The PS2 is played every other day by my kids. Ironically, it's my non-modded PS2 that doesn't read disks anymore. Modded Xbox, PSone, GameCube, Xbox360, still going strong. I always use good media (Verbatim).
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jjjj55
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25. April 2008 @ 22:31 |
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I think this situation has happened to me. I had been playing backups on my wii with memorex disks for about 6 months. When I found out that memorex ruins the laser, I switched to verbatim disks. Its been about a month since the switch and almost all my games dont work. every once in a while It'll read but the laser sounds like its working really hard. I burned all my games at 4x using image burn and its an NTSC-U wii with the 3.2U firmare.
WHAT SHOULD I DO!?
thanks in advance for any answers.
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madmerc
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27. April 2008 @ 20:26 |
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My guess is that you need to have your laser repaired/replaced.
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28. April 2008 @ 15:30 |
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I think that all of you need to go do some more research, particularly on how optical drives work and how optical media is manufactured.
All I see in this post is a lot of misinformation, half-truths, and "superstition".
Particularly the "memorex ruins the laser" post. WTF are you basing this on?
I don't see how any of you can expect a constructive answer based on your inputs.
And no, I don't have time to educate you. Maybe some sould with more patience does.
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madmerc
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28. April 2008 @ 20:17 |
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Originally posted by dailun:
I think that all of you need to go do some more research, particularly on how optical drives work and how optical media is manufactured.
All I see in this post is a lot of misinformation, half-truths, and "superstition".
Particularly the "memorex ruins the laser" post. WTF are you basing this on?
I don't see how any of you can expect a constructive answer based on your inputs.
And no, I don't have time to educate you. Maybe some sould with more patience does.
Man, what an arrogant a-hole. If you got nothing good to say then don't say it. I just love how you ran away without any input at all.
The internet is great for arrogant cowards. People would never act like this in person, 'cause they'd be afraid of getting hurt.
"Maybe some sould with more patience does." - yeah, thanks for not educating us Yoda.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. April 2008 @ 20:31
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Xenophrag
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29. April 2008 @ 20:17 |
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My Wii has been modded for over a year now, with an Original WiiKey. I have been using HP DVD-R Lightscribe Disks. It actually started getting read errors shortly after the 1.9g update to the WiiKey, and ironically only on store bought games such as Guitar Hero 3 or Zelda. I have recently switched to Sony DVD's, (they were on sale), but haven't noticed a large difference. The drive does seem to be getting a little louder as time goes on. I've never heard of a particular media damaging a laser though. I don't really see how it could. Unless the laser was working harder to read it, thus diminishing it's life span prematurely. In any case, I noticed some places online that were selling just the Wii DVD drives, so maybe I'll just buy a back up if it gets all wierd on me.
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30. April 2008 @ 00:15 |
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A laser is a solid state device. It's either ON, or it's OFF. There is movement of the laser head as it traverses across the surface of the disc, and a certain amount of movement of the laser head if it has to refocus in order to read the data on the disc.
In "burned" (vs. pressed) DVDs this could be attributed to manufacturing processes but since DVD plants typically manufacture DVDs for many different vendors, the quality differences are more likely in the materials used to manufacture the discs. There are several threads in the DVD forums that explain this in more detail, as well as the fact that Memorex holds the #3 market share in sales of blank DVDs worldwide.
I have been using Memorex for years and have not had any more or less issues in quality than with any other major brand.
If I were to guess (and this is purely a guess), I would think that the Wii drives could be "tweaked" at the factory to be more sensitive to reading "pressed" DVDs and less sensitive to reading "burned DVDs".
Programs like imgburn and Nero identify the manufacturer of the DVD, or more specifically, the company whose specifications the DVD was manufactured under.
I have two spindles of Memorex DVD-Rs in front of me. One spindle IDs as RICOH JAPAN, the other as RITEKF1. So it would appear that the brand name has little to do with the actual manufacturer.
Since I have been "challenged" to respond to TC's original statements:
(quote)1. I was wondering, after burning DVDs of Wii games and then playing them on a WiiKey modded Wii, won't the DVD laser die after a while?
The laser will die after a period of time NO MATTER what discs you use. I haven't seen any evidence on this or any other forum that using burned DVDs accelerates wear on the Wii laser or DVD drive.
(quote)2. I mean a manufactured CD will be safer for a DVD drive to read vs. a DVD burned from home right?
Define "safer". If you mean "less prone to break your Wii", I don't think that there is any scientific (or anecdotal) evidence that points to this. I stated (above)my guess on why the Wii might read pressed DVDs more reliably.
(quote)3. Won't there be a no disk error after a while? This happened to my Dreamcast/PS2, won't the same happen to my Wii?
There might, there might not. I have repaired several PS2s that have never seen a copied disk that have also died or had disc errors. Electronics break, electronics with moving parts tend to break sooner.
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30. April 2008 @ 01:24 |
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I have had similar issues with my Wii. I modded it about 8 months ago and have played quite a bit and about 2 months ago (6 months after I modded it) I began noticing that if my Wii was already on and I tried putting a game in, it would occasionally give me the "disc read error". The interesting thing is, this would happen almost every time with store-bought games and only only rarely with my backed-up games. It's really not a big deal though because all I have to do is hit the reset button and the game loads up fine on restart. It never gives me disc read errors in the middle of a game or anything like that. I have no freaking clue what this means; whether it is an issue with the laser or the modchip or the firmware or god knows what. I have however heard similar stories in the past, so I thought I would share my experience.
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madmerc
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30. April 2008 @ 01:33 |
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Originally posted by adambar:
I have had similar issues with my Wii. I modded it about 8 months ago and have played quite a bit and about 2 months ago (6 months after I modded it) I began noticing that if my Wii was already on and I tried putting a game in, it would occasionally give me the "disc read error". The interesting thing is, this would happen almost every time with store-bought games and only only rarely with my backed-up games. It's really not a big deal though because all I have to do is hit the reset button and the game loads up fine on restart. It never gives me disc read errors in the middle of a game or anything like that. I have no freaking clue what this means; whether it is an issue with the laser or the modchip or the firmware or god knows what. I have however heard similar stories in the past, so I thought I would share my experience.
I think that's been the case with me for Dreamcast + PS2. I assume the same would happen for Wii. I'm not sure what's the cause of this error, but it's obvious that I'm not the only one with this problem.
At least it's good to hear that it's not for all disks and that it's only for pressed disks. I assume that replacing the laser will correct serious disc read errors. At least there is a work around.
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