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PlayStation 3 will be profitable by August, says analyst
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article published on 22 April, 2008
Nikko Citigroup analysts have upgraded their rating for Sony Corporation citing their anticipation that the company will break even or even turn a profit on the PlayStation 3 beginning in August.
If their prediction is accurate, then Sony will break even at least three months earlier than analysts had previously speculated. Sony itself was not sure when it would hit profitability on ... [ read the full article ]
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22. April 2008 @ 18:59 |
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ok dont get me wrong here, but just wanted to ask. Has the "XboX" made a profit yet for Microsoft , i heard somewhere they stil haven't made any profit on the Xbox and Xbox 360 Brands. Is this true?
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22. April 2008 @ 19:03 |
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Originally posted by ammad123:
ok dont get me wrong here, but just wanted to ask. Has the "XboX" made a profit yet for Microsoft , i heard somewhere they stil haven't made any profit on the Xbox and Xbox 360 Brands. Is this true?
I pretty sure Microsoft has made a profit off the 360 but what hard to figure out is how much RROD is costing them which is eating into there profit big time.
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22. April 2008 @ 22:16 |
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I was under the impression that the X-Box had a huge writedown do the the RROD issue. I believe that ate up their profits.
The PS3 is doing well, especially considering how few games it has.
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23. April 2008 @ 00:33 |
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I heard that MS spent more than a billion dollars on RROD repairs alone. If MS never had that problem they'd be up in profits alot. As well XBL is very successful so im sure Xbox is making some profit. I could see the PS3 making profit by then. I wonder how sales will be with MGS4 coming soon. PS3's first exclusive big game i think anyways lol
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23. April 2008 @ 03:17 |
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Yes it is a shame to lose profits to the RROD. Thought the only way the ps3 would make profits would be from selling the games. Wonder if we'll still be in a recession by then.
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23. April 2008 @ 10:16 |
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Originally posted by TBandit:
Yes it is a shame to lose profits to the RROD. Thought the only way the ps3 would make profits would be from selling the games. Wonder if we'll still be in a recession by then.
ROCK the Vote BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats the only way....
This would make perfect timing for Sony Because they have GT4 this month HAZE next month MGS4 June then Killzone & Socom Sept(one on those games will be push back)Then Resistance 2 in Nov which i expect to see a price cut no more than 50 bucks.
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23. April 2008 @ 10:36 |
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Ok. a real question on the topic.......
the "cheaper-to-manufacture" statement gets me worried. If this will most likely drop the price of the PS3 again, wouldnt this also mean that the newer cheaper PS3's will be more prone to hardware failure? cheap parts to me means its easier to fail on you. Since Xbox is mentioned on a PS3 thread, then isnt thats what was happend to the 360 with the so called Ring of death or read light. I know I didnt get the terminology precise cuz Im not an Xbox owner/fan.
And it also depends on how much of drawing less power and creating less heat will actually help. This is mainly concerning the 40gb model, that happens to not have PS2 playability. Most likely there wont be any backwards compatible ps3's anymore. Just my lil theory.
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23. April 2008 @ 12:05 |
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Originally posted by gkmpb4:
Ok. a real question on the topic.......
the "cheaper-to-manufacture" statement gets me worried. If this will most likely drop the price of the PS3 again, wouldnt this also mean that the newer cheaper PS3's will be more prone to hardware failure? cheap parts to me means its easier to fail on you. Since Xbox is mentioned on a PS3 thread, then isnt thats what was happend to the 360 with the so called Ring of death or read light. I know I didnt get the terminology precise cuz Im not an Xbox owner/fan.
And it also depends on how much of drawing less power and creating less heat will actually help. This is mainly concerning the 40gb model, that happens to not have PS2 playability. Most likely there wont be any backwards compatible ps3's anymore. Just my lil theory.
Don't confuse cheaper with lower quality.
With technology, cost can drop and quality can improve simultaneously. Just look at today's plasmas compared to yesterday's. You can get the same size 1080p set for about half of what you used to pay for 720p sets. Better set, lower cost. That's simply the nature of technology improvements.
Cost savings can come in a varitey of ways that in no way compromises quality - especially when you're talking computer chips. Just look at how much faster PCs are than yesterday, and at such comparably low prices. Yesterday's high end chips can be found in today's bargain models, and there's nothing worse quality wise about it just because it got cheaper.
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23. April 2008 @ 12:42 |
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Originally posted by gkmpb4:
Ok. a real question on the topic.......
the "cheaper-to-manufacture" statement gets me worried. If this will most likely drop the price of the PS3 again, wouldnt this also mean that the newer cheaper PS3's will be more prone to hardware failure? cheap parts to me means its easier to fail on you. Since Xbox is mentioned on a PS3 thread, then isnt thats what was happend to the 360 with the so called Ring of death or read light. I know I didnt get the terminology precise cuz Im not an Xbox owner/fan.
And it also depends on how much of drawing less power and creating less heat will actually help. This is mainly concerning the 40gb model, that happens to not have PS2 playability. Most likely there wont be any backwards compatible ps3's anymore. Just my lil theory.
The 360 was made from the start to have the RROD. I have sent mine back 5 times...yes 5 times ..but I still love it...My PS3 has had no problems....and I have had BOTH since the day of the launch
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23. April 2008 @ 13:17 |
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From what I understand the Xbox started of with a 5B debt that transfered to the 360, now the 360 managed to eat that until the RROD issues added 3B, I think they are under 2B now and Sony is 2-4B in debt on the PS3 and hugely in debt to BR.
Corporate debt LULZ
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23. April 2008 @ 14:37 |
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Turning a profit for the PS3 is awesome news!! Profitibility means lower game prices and soon to be "Greatest Hits" pricing too as well as lower hardware pricing. I don't have one yet but it may be in my immediate future because of this.
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23. April 2008 @ 15:29 |
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This is good for consumers,yes. i dont expect to see another price drop for about a year.
Also lower pricing on a console does not make games cheaper by far.
Games make Games cheaper. least the company fixs the price for a Contract, example would be Halo3 400 million copies, still no price cut.
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23. April 2008 @ 15:46 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
This is good for consumers,yes. i dont expect to see another price drop for about a year.
Also lower pricing on a console does not make games cheaper by far.
Games make Games cheaper. least the company fixs the price for a Contract, example would be Halo3 400 million copies, still no price cut.
You completely and totally misinterpreted what I said, but that's alright.
I never said anything about "lower price on console bringing lower prices to games"
What I did say (and I will paraphrase my own comment) is that PROFITIBILITY means lower prices on hardware AND on games. In case you were out of the loop and did not know............Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo (as well as any others) all take major losses on the production of the systems (hardware) until the game production/sales eventually catch up and 'turn profits'. This article is about "The PS3 being profitable which is the hardware they are referring to which in turn means that the software sales is catching up with the costs incurred to manufacture the system and hence will result in lower prices for both games and H/W. If you disagree, well then...................you're just wrong.
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23. April 2008 @ 15:55 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
This is good for consumers,yes. i dont expect to see another price drop for about a year.
Also lower pricing on a console does not make games cheaper by far.
Games make Games cheaper. least the company fixs the price for a Contract, example would be Halo3 400 million copies, still no price cut.
You completely and totally misinterpreted what I said, but that's alright.
I never said anything about "lower price on console bringing lower prices to games"
What I did say (and I will paraphrase my own comment) is that PROFITIBILITY means lower prices on hardware AND on games. In case you were out of the loop and did not know............Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo (as well as any others) all take major losses on the production of the systems (hardware) until the game production/sales eventually catch up and 'turn profits'. This article is about "The PS3 being profitable which is the hardware they are referring to which in turn means that the software sales is catching up with the costs incurred to manufacture the system and hence will result in lower prices for both games and H/W. If you disagree, well then...................you're just wrong.
clarification of wut
Are you saying that prices will go down on both H/W and games because they sale better?
That is a incorrect statement, hardware revisions come about due to trying to save money on new unit sales which in turn can lower the price on them, "new new" game price is set by the mentality of the industry and rarely dose it go down.....new reprint games or classic hits lines are not "new" games they are repacked games set at a price 10-20$ lower than it's launch price.
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23. April 2008 @ 16:37 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
This is good for consumers,yes. i dont expect to see another price drop for about a year.
Also lower pricing on a console does not make games cheaper by far.
Games make Games cheaper. least the company fixs the price for a Contract, example would be Halo3 400 million copies, still no price cut.
You completely and totally misinterpreted what I said, but that's alright.
I never said anything about "lower price on console bringing lower prices to games"
What I did say (and I will paraphrase my own comment) is that PROFITIBILITY means lower prices on hardware AND on games. In case you were out of the loop and did not know............Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo (as well as any others) all take major losses on the production of the systems (hardware) until the game production/sales eventually catch up and 'turn profits'. This article is about "The PS3 being profitable which is the hardware they are referring to which in turn means that the software sales is catching up with the costs incurred to manufacture the system and hence will result in lower prices for both games and H/W. If you disagree, well then...................you're just wrong.
clarification of wut
Are you saying that prices will go down on both H/W and games because they sale better?
That is a incorrect statement, hardware revisions come about due to trying to save money on new unit sales which in turn can lower the price on them, "new new" game price is set by the mentality of the industry and rarely dose it go down.....new reprint games or classic hits lines are not "new" games they are repacked games set at a price 10-20$ lower than it's launch price.
Thanks for confirming what I said. Never said it was BRAND NEW games that will come down in price but that games will LOWER in price. Madden 08 for XBox and Rainbow Six Vegas are now 29.99. Much sooner than normal and much sooner than compared with PS2 at the time. My point was that games "will lower in price" and they will. Sooner and quicker. They will hit Greatest Hits a bit quicker since PS3 is in a profit margin than if not.
So be quiet Zippy and "Zip the lip" because as always..........you're too stupid to talk!
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23. April 2008 @ 16:59 |
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Here we go again.... more speculation from the ANALists leading to more flaming.
True statement.. Lies, Damn Lies, Market Trends, Statistics.
"20 million to one resolution in dna testing" ... that means there are 3 people in the UK right now who will in a dna test look exactly like me.... so much for statistics. They can be twisted to the point you want to make way too easily.
Probability.. same crap based on statistics.. "You have more chance of being killed by a meteorite than of winning the lottery", yet in the whole of human history nobody has ever been proven to have been killed by a meteorite... somebody wins the lottery most weeks. That tells me it must be rigged otherwise nobody would ever win and people would stop buying tickets....
It's all crap.
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Back on topic:
Originally posted by r0b0t3ch:
Madden 08 for XBox and Rainbow Six Vegas are now 29.99.
The price for Madden always drop around the holidays i don't think that has anything to do with what your talking about.It depend on self life before games drop in price.
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Originally posted by NexGen76:
Back on topic:
Originally posted by r0b0t3ch:
Madden 08 for XBox and Rainbow Six Vegas are now 29.99.
This price for Madden always drop around the holidays i don't think that has anything to do with what your talking about.
Holidays? You talking about Truck Month? LOL! Damn I hate those commercials...
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It's that time of the year again in Texas, it's Truck Month. Not the fake Chevy Truck Month but the real Ford Truck Month with its stampede of savings. Truck Month actually seems to cover the last part of February and all of March, they must have had those accountants at Anderson work that one out.
I used to own a truck, but I still hate Truck Month. Constant repetition of the advertisment and its stampede of savings just drives me batty. The stampede really is illustrated in the TV ad by a line for Ford trucks racing towards the camera.
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I don't think I'm quite sure where you are going with that statement Varnull but I will say this..............Market trends, statistics and especially "Trends" in general are good to go by. Trust me on this one. It's the "trends" that people (sheeple) go through and allow insightful individuals like myself to stay a step or three ahead of people such as yourself.
This is great!! I just hope you keep thinking that way and don't succumb to these "trends".............that way I'll keep predicting your next potentially dangerous, incriminating or risky move in life. I will inevitably benefit from whatever you do every time.
Lesson is: Life is all about trends. Not all 6.5 billion people do the exact same thing but people like me are aware of the "trends" that certain individuals will go through.
"Truck Month" .....How true. HILARIOUS!!!
He only mentioned Madden going down before X-Mas. Not to 29.99 amigo. That low price is because the XBox is pulling into a "profit zone".
It's totally apparently that very few people know little or nothing about business. Not the case with me so your arguments are moot and futile and meaningless generally.
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Sense we are on the topic of "trends" and "statistics", what are the chances that r0b0 will get canned again?
If you go r0b0, be sure to send me your new account info. ;)
BTW, you know about Texas Truck Month?
Originally posted by r0b0m4n:
so your arguments are moot and futile
LOL!
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Sense we are on the topic of "trends" and "statistics", what are the chances that r0b0 will get canned again?
If you go r0b0, be sure to send me your new account info. ;)
BTW, you know about Texas Truck Month?
Originally posted by r0b0m4n:
so your arguments are moot and futile
LOL!
I'm that dude on the left. Hey! Ya' think THOSE TWO know about "Truck Month"?? GOD I hope so.
You already know our little "topic" (df baby!) So I will make that clear but I haven't really done much wrong and have confidence I may be able to stay. Shhhh
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Originally posted by r0b0t3ch:
allow insightful individuals like myself to stay a step or three ahead of people such as yourself.
Lmao....clueless
Originally posted by r0b0t3ch:
He only mentioned Madden going down before X-Mas. Not to 29.99 amigo. That low price is because the XBox is pulling into a "profit zone".
Like i said clueless Madden on all consoles seen the price drop not just XBOX.Because a console is profitable has nothing to do with game prices going down.Retailers can adjust there own game prices not Sony....Sony & Microsoft only set Hardware prices.
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So be quiet Zippy and "Zip the lip" because as always..........you're too stupid to talk!
I agree...This is a non gamer trying to start $hit with no first-hand knowledge...He does not own any gaming system from the last 20 years...still playing SEGA GENESIS and added the 32x and calls that next gen....Find your own opinion first hand instead of regurgitating things you read...
This is not a attack...its from reading all his combative comments for the last year +..........
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23. April 2008 @ 18:32 |
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Trust me on this one. It's the "trends" that people (sheeple) go through and allow insightful individuals like myself to stay a step or three ahead of people such as yourself.
Trust me.. it is idiots with that opinion.. watching trends and claiming to "be one step ahead" that end up bankrupt.
I'm sick to death (as are lots of people with very long track records on this site) with the constant malu cachu about what analists predict.
Do we give a cach whether sony turn a profit this month.. next month or never? Is it relevant to the consumer in any way shape or form? NO.
So I suggest.. respectfully.. that you cau dy ffwcin ceg and come back when you have some real life business experience (aka.. leave school and own your own public limited company) and know a lot more about what you speak of..
Until then you live in the box marked Pen Pidyn, where we can all laugh at your retarded fanboy personal attacks and rantings.
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23. April 2008 @ 19:10 |
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@r0b0t3ch
I guess you missed the zero tolerance on flame wars - oh well.
Buh bye
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