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PlayStation 3 will be profitable by August, says analyst
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article published on 22 April, 2008
Nikko Citigroup analysts have upgraded their rating for Sony Corporation citing their anticipation that the company will break even or even turn a profit on the PlayStation 3 beginning in August.
If their prediction is accurate, then Sony will break even at least three months earlier than analysts had previously speculated. Sony itself was not sure when it would hit profitability on ... [ read the full article ]
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23. April 2008 @ 21:40 |
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Ahh what a shame just when i was about to start, god a hate being late to the FlameWars Extravaganza.
Oh well....i guess it was for the best.
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23. April 2008 @ 22:18 |
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ahahahahaha
that whas real funny, although sad, since i was salivating on having myself some piece of action on that "people insightfull as myself" comment, i just have a theory, i dont know if anyone could back it off, if someone openly claims to be one of this, is automaticaly certified not to be it:
Smart
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Handsome XD
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23. April 2008 @ 22:48 |
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Im handsome...only to people uglier than me.
im smart... only to people that are less so.
im Insightfull...only to people who are clueless.
im clever...only to people that are Dullwitted.
im Funny... only to people that are not so.
In this world there is always someone better than you.
Thats my Theory.
But lets steer back on topic.
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23. April 2008 @ 22:56 |
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Quote:
But lets steer back on topic.
Good idea :)
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23. April 2008 @ 22:58 |
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ok, so back on topic, if you ask me only thing it means to become profitable, is the start of the countdown towards ps4
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24. April 2008 @ 12:59 |
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Originally posted by TBandit:
Yes it is a shame to lose profits to the RROD. Thought the only way the ps3 would make profits would be from selling the games. Wonder if we'll still be in a recession by then.
i think home entertainment sector is "recession-proof." People are going out less and spending less, but they turn to home entertainments. That was one of the major reason why Gamestop was enjoying the big profit margin at the moment.
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24. April 2008 @ 14:43 |
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They're makin' dolla deals in the East, that's fr sure ;)
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wetsparks
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25. April 2008 @ 00:48 |
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Its good for Sony to turn a profit on each system sold as soon as possible so that they can drop the price as soon as possible for all of us. And a touch of clarification before I go, robo said that all systems are sold at a loss, that is not true. The Wii has sold at a profit since launch, the DS and PSP and PS2 have been for a while. The 360 is rumored to be turning a decent profit on each system sold and the PS3 is the only one not selling at a profit at the moment. And Zippy, Sony lost 3 billion on the PS3 so far and Microsoft lost 3 billion on the original xbox and another 3 billion on the 360, add in 1 billion set aside for rrod repairs when it finally started to turn a profit and they are slowly chipping away at that 6 billion dollar hole.
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25. April 2008 @ 01:59 |
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
Its good for Sony to turn a profit on each system sold as soon as possible so that they can drop the price as soon as possible for all of us. And a touch of clarification before I go, robo said that all systems are sold at a loss, that is not true. The Wii has sold at a profit since launch, the DS and PSP and PS2 have been for a while. The 360 is rumored to be turning a decent profit on each system sold and the PS3 is the only one not selling at a profit at the moment. And Zippy, Sony lost 3 billion on the PS3 so far and Microsoft lost 3 billion on the original xbox and another 3 billion on the 360, add in 1 billion set aside for rrod repairs when it finally started to turn a profit and they are slowly chipping away at that 6 billion dollar hole.
I think they are already in the positive,if not they are at least getting half the profit off the 360 unit sales, I just wish they would fix the damn thing.
I am putting off the PS3 and 360 until they fix them and lower the price a bit more I loath the casual gaming focus so I can wait aint missing anything that not been done better befor...
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6189842.htm...ws&subj=6189842
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25. April 2008 @ 02:11 |
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yeah I've seen that already. 89 million in profit in a division that should have a lot of profitable things in it, as listed on that page Zune, Games for Windows, and Mac Office (which isn't listed). They are making money, but it will take a while at this rate. They should do better once they get a better handle on the rrod and increase their revenue from each 360 sold.
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25. April 2008 @ 10:10 |
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
yeah I've seen that already. 89 million in profit in a division that should have a lot of profitable things in it, as listed on that page Zune, Games for Windows, and Mac Office (which isn't listed). They are making money, but it will take a while at this rate. They should do better once they get a better handle on the rrod and increase their revenue from each 360 sold.
They still have issues on many levels vista is half arsed and looking to be replaced in 2 years, the hardware issues on the 360 is just scary IMO bad design going unfixed for so long.
I think its reasonable to say the 360 is selling well, the marketing streadgy they use helped them greatly, I just wish they would open the 360 up a bit (universal HDD kit) and fix the fcking hardware flaws....
the PS3 is a bit more polished IMO, needs more games and more optimizations.
the WII is the WII it could be more gamer focused but tis the WII.......LOL
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25. April 2008 @ 11:02 |
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Theres a munch of games coming for Christmas :)
Motor Storm 2
Resistance 2
Killzone 2
Little Big Planet
Release of Home Beta :P
Hopefully some word on FFXIII >:(
That's just what I can think of off the top of my head... I can't wait for Resistance 2... It's supposed to have 2 campaigns and 60 player online :)
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25. April 2008 @ 11:06 |
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Originally posted by viny1313:
Theres a munch of games coming for Christmas :)
Motor Storm 2
Resistance 2
Killzone 2
Little Big Planet
Release of Home Beta :P
Hopefully some word on FFXIII >:(
That's just what I can think of off the top of my head... I can't wait for Resistance 2... It's supposed to have 2 campaigns and 60 player online :)
Motor Storm 2=don;t care
Resistance 2=simi care but not 300$ care
Killzone 2=don't care
Little Big Planet=don't care
Release of Home Beta=not a nub tween sheeple
Hopefully some word on FFXIII >:(= it would be more fun and relaxing to huff nitrous oxide and listen to the star wars sound track (10 net cookies to the person who gets it)
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25. April 2008 @ 11:07 |
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Oh well, I do, I don't care about your oppinions :P
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25. April 2008 @ 11:22 |
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Originally posted by viny1313:
Oh well, I do, I don't care about your oppinions :P
*farts* care yet? :P
It can get more stinker.....
:P
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25. April 2008 @ 16:19 |
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the ps3 has plenty of games, just not the big franchises yet. agree, wish the wii had more gamer focused games and less party/casual focused games. 360, hardware fixed and more non shooters would be nice.
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25. April 2008 @ 20:55 |
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Originally posted by viny1313:
Oh well, I do, I don't care about your opinions :P
I agree...This is a non gamer trying to start $hit with no first-hand knowledge...He does not own any gaming system from the last 20 years...still playing SEGA GENESIS and added the 32x and calls that next gen....Find your own opinion first hand instead of regurgitating things you read...
This is not a attack...its from reading all his combative comments for the last year +..........
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25. April 2008 @ 21:33 |
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Originally posted by viny1313:
Oh well, I do, I don't care about your opinions :P
I agree...This is a non gamer trying to start $hit with no first-hand knowledge...He does not own any gaming system from the last 20 years...still playing SEGA GENESIS and added the 32x and calls that next gen....Find your own opinion first hand instead of regurgitating things you read...
This is not a attack...its from reading all his combative comments for the last year +..........
Oh really? seem to mis the posts where I talk about the ins and outs of the systems, lets try itagain shall we the PS3 lacks games this is true I have had it for a year and the handful of mediocre titles were so so at best not worth the 400$ price tag, so I got rid of it so I could focus on my PC,I have had a 360 as well the hardware issues and locked data and mostly on PC titles is a big turn off,I have a PC thus I do not need MSs bondage machine, the WII is like the PS3 only it has even less games I want to play the over all casual focus and 300$ price tag leave me cold when they hit 199 I'll buy in.
Regardless the PS3 still has issues with devs,games and optimizations which is lessening but still prevalent, to say its not a issue is to be foolishly fanboyish, the 360 also has problems with game variety, add on the hardware and data issues its something to consider when making a purchase.
But then again most sheeple say buy it up don't bother protecting your money from poorly designed games or anticonsmer mentailtes.
I rail agisnt modern gaming becuse we are getting less product for more money,look at Halo 3 for Christ sake, not to mention the crappy crapfest titles like Jericho or choking on its own mediocrity titles like Turok.
This is not exclusive to shooters but I will try to describe the change in the early 00s in gaming at one time they made games mostly for gamers with a focus on making a game lil by lil they shifted to a casual focus making games and playable content smaller and smaller, also with the casual mentalities comes the rush rush make a quick buck mentality.
For instance DOOM had good sized maze like levels with plenty of monsters to kill DOOM3 was devoured by "cinemagic" and you were made to run through a 1 way maze of corridors with monsters you could count on your hands(talking about going full circle oy...) Dues ex 2 is another example from large well built levels and story to a rush job on DX2.
The rush factor is quite scary now adays look at bioshock I can pick apart its flaws but look at the PC port with broken mouse and locked keys or Turok PC with multiplayer riped right from the 360 version,sluggish load times and other "duurrr I'm a port" issues, rushing projects, in order to fully devs games in this multi console world they need at least a extra 15 months to finish it.
You might say its a hobby get over it,bah bah bah bah and other wioolie things I say at 40$+ and no right of return the consumer needs to know the trap set for them, I am wiling to admit I shaved the wool got out the black paint and put on the tinfoil hat, so whats your excuse for being as stupid as me MR sheep?
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25. April 2008 @ 23:25 |
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Haha... feel better zippy...what you say is the cold hard fact for most who actualy put at least 40 to 80 hours in a game.
its not the consoles Falt at all, its the Developers who forgoten there love for games. its not all the devs fault ether, many good Game developer Groups were bought out, by these quick buck company's
RARE, Bungie, SquareSoft, Enix, And many other's were bought out.
And for those that would say squareenix and squaresoft are the same. you would be sadly mistaken. there names are joint but there games have gotten repetetive Prequals after Prequals, and a multitude of mear re-releases. now we get to FF13.
but for the most part zippy your right. every once in a while they make a game worth buying, Mass Effect was nicely done ive got lots of Mass Effect books i used to read. Oblivion was a nice game as well over 200 hours and i still havent got everything.
an not to forget Lost Oddesy, more japenese humor than i like but it was fun.
But who said finding a Gem in room full of artificial gem's was easy right.
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25. April 2008 @ 23:26 |
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I agree with pretty much all of your post, but I still think those games are worth buying a PS3 ;)
GT = :D
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26. April 2008 @ 00:11 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
Haha... feel better zippy...what you say is the cold hard fact for most who actualy put at least 40 to 80 hours in a game.
its not the consoles Falt at all, its the Developers who forgoten there love for games. its not all the devs fault ether, many good Game developer Groups were bought out, by these quick buck company's
RARE, Bungie, SquareSoft, Enix, And many other's were bought out.
And for those that would say squareenix and squaresoft are the same. you would be sadly mistaken. there names are joint but there games have gotten repetetive Prequals after Prequals, and a multitude of mear re-releases. now we get to FF13.
but for the most part zippy your right. every once in a while they make a game worth buying, Mass Effect was nicely done ive got lots of Mass Effect books i used to read. Oblivion was a nice game as well over 200 hours and i still havent got everything.
an not to forget Lost Oddesy, more japenese humor than i like but it was fun.
But who said finding a Gem in room full of artificial gem's was easy right.
Oh please its the mentality of the industry most just adpeted to casaul gaming and went on with their lives thee blatant sell outs like anything EA buys and most of edios titles, rare just has not been able to make a lot of games of late because they have not been giving the go on projects what games they have made feel like force fed cash ins I do not feel they have sold out as much are stuck in a rut, the same could said for bungie in some respects altho with MS backing them the only reason Halo sucks now is due to the mind set of the industry, but with Square/Enix both were wishy washy from the start they had a few hits and a few misses, Square bought out Enix and was always in control of things so they were not bought out as much as went 100% casual focus damning the FF brand into casual piss tainted watery hell it started with FF8 not FFX if out are reading into my later joke to much.
Its really the whole change of focus from gaming to corporate mindsets, the prevailing "who cares if we make a good product we just want to sell lots of it" being the leading factor in the loss of "gaming in gaming" that and casuals care not for quality and polish so why should we waste profit time in doing it..
Lost Oddessy + mass effect almost made me buy a 360 again but mass effect is coming to the PC and it should not be a cluster fck of a port like Bioshock and turok.
Oblivion is a casual cluster fck its just watered down and made all sour and sticky for the casuals I can not stand it and I fear Fo3 is being bum raped for the mindless masses as well.
In the end the game industry has went casual leaving only a few gems left to mine and at higher and higher prices (face it 40-50$ today is 100$ 10 years ago) there is lil reason in my mind not to question the price V cost of the whole rotten thing.
its like comic book(most IP/CP really) and game movies if you enjoy the fiction being raped for casuals then enjoy wallowing in the poo of the game industry if you can believe it to be dirt then by all means be a happy lil pigy, ignorance will give a peaceful stress free life so they say.
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26. April 2008 @ 01:44 |
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Yes, Zippy, we know you hate modern games and live in the nostalgia of old time gaming. But it isn't like those old time games where that much longer than games now. Think about it, how long was Zelda: A Link to the Past? 10 hours, tops? So length hasn't changed hardly at all in the last 15 years. But with much, much better graphics they have to make the games "more casual" to sell more copies to make money. They are a business, they HAVE to make money. If you want a charity to make a game, you get crap like Second Life (that was made by some college students as a project wasn't it?). Like I told you before, if you don't want to pay the price for the games, rent them. Set a weekend aside and you can beat 90% of the games in a weekend of good gaming and save yourself a lot of money. BTW, the shot you took at Square Enix, it isn't like their early games where the huge games they are now. FF1&2 were 20 hours if you didn't know what the hell you where doing and wasted as much time as possible. The SNES games weren't that much longer either. So they definitely did not go casual, they went more hardcore by making longer games.
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
Yes, Zippy, we know you hate modern games and live in the nostalgia of old time gaming. But it isn't like those old time games where that much longer than games now. Think about it, how long was Zelda: A Link to the Past? 10 hours, tops? So length hasn't changed hardly at all in the last 15 years. But with much, much better graphics they have to make the games "more casual" to sell more copies to make money. They are a business, they HAVE to make money. If you want a charity to make a game, you get crap like Second Life (that was made by some college students as a project wasn't it?). Like I told you before, if you don't want to pay the price for the games, rent them. Set a weekend aside and you can beat 90% of the games in a weekend of good gaming and save yourself a lot of money. BTW, the shot you took at Square Enix, it isn't like their early games where the huge games they are now. FF1&2 were 20 hours if you didn't know what the hell you where doing and wasted as much time as possible. The SNES games weren't that much longer either. So they definitely did not go casual, they went more hardcore by making longer games.
Oh yes new games are prefect and have not been raped my cash in casual mentalities.....
Sorry much like hollywood I don't buy it, good media is good media period the zombies will buy it regardless if its good or not, and they will sale more of it if its good.
And if its not good I will rail agisnt it.
Take another look games compare quake 2 to qauke 4, Halo 1 to HAlo 2 and 3 and other games you will find gaps in content and design, Zelda OOT had alil less content than LTTP but for practical trems they were even my main compalit on OOT I didn't like the plot of it,setting was ok but the I didnt like the story I liked LA alil more, MM was shorter but had more filler the same for WW, content is changing if you look hard enough, if you can;t see it your content in the casual market,I am not they can do better but they will not because there is no profit for them too.
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26. April 2008 @ 09:40 |
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Ohh I'll play Halo CE over Halo 3 any day...
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26. April 2008 @ 10:11 |
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Originally posted by viny1313:
Ohh I'll play Halo CE over Halo 3 any day...
I like Halo 1 PC myslef..the other Halos tho...kinda fail....
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