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Wii - With D2CKEY+WiiClip Will Only Play Original Games, Any Help?
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timmle
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26. April 2008 @ 16:40 |
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Around two hours ago i sat down with my d2ckey and wiiclip for a solderless install just to be on the safe side. The wiiclip fits perfectly and upon insertion of WiiSports the games plays fine, as that is the only original game i have at the moment. This is a NTSC console, but i am playing in the UK.
I burnt off MarioKart(NTSC) on a RiDisc 8x DVD-R at 2x with IMGBURN.
(I even tried using regionfree to change region but to no prevail)
It refuses to read the disc, it spins for around 1-2 seconds and then stops and says it cannot read the disc. But then as soon as the Wiisports game is inserted it plays it fine, and the blue light on the D2CKEY is flashing perfectly as it reads the disc.
Has anyone got any ideas how to solve this problem?
P.S. There is something i'm not sure of to be honest, and its the region override option. I have soldered the 'L' pad to the WiiClip, but then found some information on the afterdawn forums which said if your console is NTSC to bridge the JP1 connections. Is this correct?
What is the best way with the wiiclip to override it so it plays all region games?
Hope someone can help.
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timmle
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26. April 2008 @ 19:51 |
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Anybody Help Atall?
Would swapping from Ridisc 16x to Verbatim DVD-R solve my problem? I can't see any other reason why it wouldn't work, original games work fine, which should mean that the chip is installed correctly...right?
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susieqbbb
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27. April 2008 @ 03:33 |
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I could see why it might not work.
Are you using the ntsc u.s.a version.
The reason i ask is the u.s.a version has new security i tried to make my backup region free by applying a patch and it won't work and worse it asks to update the firmware which i cannot do or my wii will brick and yes i have tried to remove the firmware update and then the game wont even read.
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timmle
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27. April 2008 @ 06:12 |
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First of all, thankyou for replying.
And for the problem, the game i burnt off was a NTSC USA version. Considering i bridged the JP1 connectors for NTSC override. It doesn't even ask me for an update or anything, it just refuses to read the disc and stops spinning after a few seconds.
I've double checked all the soldering, that looks perfect, the bridge for JP1 is perfect, it is playing Original games with the chip installed with no problems which it wasn't before, and now it just won't play my backups.
The only thing i can put it down to, is the type of media i am using...i've heard the wii can be quite picky about what it reads and doesn't read and these were quite cheap discs - Ridisc 8x DVD-R.
Any Further Ideas?
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wirerob
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27. April 2008 @ 06:25 |
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Hi
Having the exact same problem with wii-clip argon solderless soln. Clip is fitted flush to pcb blue led flashes when origional game inserted and loading. PAL backup game inserted and argon light comes on for 3 to 4 seconds as disk spins up and then goes off as disk stops - WII cant read disk error message then comes up. I too suspected media so I bought some verbatim 16 - dvd and burned at 4x. Still won't read backups - backups made using iso files that others have had total success with.
Beginning to think either the clip or chip are defective as it seems hard to mess up the install of the clip
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timmle
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27. April 2008 @ 06:36 |
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Yeah tell me about it, I've already sent an email to the supplier demanding a replacement just incase it is a defective chip.
Once inserting a backup on mine, no lights flash at all, it's a joke, supposed to be a simple install.
I too am using ISO's that people have had working and it's starting to make me pull my hair out. I think i will go ahead just incase and buy a few Verbatim's see if it makes a difference, but after hearing your comment it strongly sounds like it isn't going to work.
Anyone else with the same problem, or solutions?
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27. April 2008 @ 06:55 |
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Where did you buy your d2ckey and wiiclip from? Reason I ask thinking of getting a Wii for my daughter and just reading up on the processor of modding it still at a lose need to do some more reading I?m from the uk so don?t fancy buying it from a turkey sorry haven?t got an answer for your problem like you said though always worth trying good quality branded disk?s
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timmle
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27. April 2008 @ 07:18 |
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I couldn't find any other supplier for the chip than abroad. I am also from the Uk and i bought it from a company called Disco Azul, think they are based in mainland Spain - managed to get the chip to me in 48 hours.
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27. April 2008 @ 07:23 |
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Ok hope you get it sorted
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wirerob
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27. April 2008 @ 07:29 |
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Hi
I am also in the UK and got mine from xbox-entertainment.co.uk also based in UK.
2 weeks to arrive though - due to high demand
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27. April 2008 @ 07:41 |
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Originally posted by wirerob:
Hi
I am also in the UK and got mine from xbox-entertainment.co.uk also based in UK.
2 weeks to arrive though - due to high demand
Ok cheers bud is this chip the best one out there? Is it solder-less not a problem if it isn?t my mate is good at soldering just starting to read up on it all not sure which one to get if I do get a Wii
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timmle
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27. April 2008 @ 08:33 |
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---- To Anybody Who Has Installed D2CKEY +WiiClip----
I've looked around, and certain people say that its because the clip isnt pushed down far enough, but i have checked this, its clipped on securely.
If i was using rubbish media, would it just not read the disc atall?
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27. April 2008 @ 09:57 |
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With my son?s playstation 2 and my Xbox when I use cheap disk?s it will spin for a couple of minutes well a minute then stop and say unable to read disk so could be the brand of disk! the disk?s you are using ?Ridisc? aint very good for backing up movies so I cant see them being any good for games just my opinion haven?t got a Wii so cant say much more
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timmle
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27. April 2008 @ 11:20 |
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I never did spend too much on media to be honest, i burnt all my xbox 360 games on DL AONE and they worked perfectly, and my Xbox backups on just standard dvd-r and had no problems. But i have heard that the Wii is picky. So i've just ordered Verbatim 16x DVD-R and i'm going to burn the games at 2x and see if that makes any difference.
Hopefully this will do the trick, i'm going to go crazy if it doesn't, can only but it down to something being faulty with the chip if that doesn't work.
So roll on delivery of these discs.
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27. April 2008 @ 11:31 |
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It could be allot of other different things.
Wii-Clip is defective.
Wii-Clip is not seated properly.
Wii-Clip is seated properly but does not make strong enough contact with 1 or more leg pins.
Modchip is defective.
Bad media
Bad burner
As you can see there can be allot of issues that may be causing the problem.
The first thing I would do is try different media/burner combination.
If that doesn't work then I would or have a pro solder the modchip directly to drive board (exclude the Wii-Clip).
I have seen some say the Wii-Clip worked perfectly fine and have seen some say it had an issue with it. Using the Wii-Clip potently raises the chance of having an instillation issue. The fact is the most stable instilation is soldering directly to the Board itself not a Wii-Clip.
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timmle
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27. April 2008 @ 11:57 |
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Thanks for replying, i have the correct jumpers bridges. Its an NTSC console and i have just bridged JP1.
First thing i will try is the new media and new burner combination because that's the easiest thing to do at this moment in time.
I don't know any professionals to wire it to the board, and i was hoping to do this the cheapest way possible.
I would have a go at doing it myself but the IC pins are just so fine i haven't got a clue how they solder on to an individual one.
The chip seems to be working in perfect order otherwise. It doesn't have any strange LED sequences, once you turn the console on it flashes both lights for a second or so, and then the blue light flashes as it reads the official discs. I have heard that the red light is continously on when reading a backup - and that's what doesn't happen for me.
So if not the media - i am looking at Chip or Clip being defective. Or the connection to the IC pad thing. Is it possible to damage the IC legs with the clip? And if this happens would i know about it?
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27. April 2008 @ 12:04 |
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You said the game is a backup of Mario Kart NTSC version. The NTSC(U) version wasn't released till today. I myself have not seen any NTSC(U) versions on any sites I go to.
Anyway have you tried getting another backup copy of a NTSC(U) game (Not Mario Kart) and see if that works?
Could be an image issue plus you said yourself you patched it so maybe something went wrong.
I would try getting another backup of a different game and see if that works.
You are postitive this is an NTSC(U) Wii?
Go to system settings and in the top right corner there should be a number with a letter.
U = USA
J = Jap
E = PAL
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timmle
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27. April 2008 @ 12:12 |
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Yes It's definitely NTSC USA
Well i tried the following games aswell.
Sonic And Secret Rings (NTSC U)
House Of The Dead 2+3 Returns (PAL)
Sega Superstars Tennis (PAL)
Mario And Sonic At The Olympic Games (PAL)
None of these seemed to work atall.
But surely, if i override the region setting it shouldn't matter on unpatched images that i burn.
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wirerob
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27. April 2008 @ 14:44 |
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No luck with the Argon version either - fine with origionals but refuses to boot backups - chips blue light flashes when reading disks so I have to assume the clip is connected ok as there doesn't seem to be any tolerance for adjustment.
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timmle
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27. April 2008 @ 15:12 |
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Strange new problem - appreciate any help.
Chip is on stable, well what seems stable - i dont know what to think anymore.
Turn the wii on, both red and blue flashes up and then go as they should, but then the blue light doesn't come up when reading original disks - but it still plays etc.
Sometimes it boots up with just blue showing up, sometimes with just red, it changes depending on mood im sure - sounds like something is loose somewhere, but wouldn't that cause problems for the playing of original games?
haven't got round to using new media for backups so i'll have to wait til they arrive, but this chip stability is worrying me.
After looking underneath the clip it seems one of the little metal points inside is set further back than others - could this be the cause of my problem? why it isn't quite sitting perfectly - and for the strange light sequences and not reading backups?
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wirerob
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30. April 2008 @ 12:49 |
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Any success yet. Mine still won't read backups. Seller claims 100% success with argon and wii-clip so doesnt seem impressed with my deduction that there is a fault with the clip - Im waiting to see how long it is before they suggest that I mave have damaged it during the install.
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30. April 2008 @ 13:17 |
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My sons xbox when I modded it his chip came with a bracket which was only fastened down with a screw wasn?t very secure so used some electrical tape would read some disks very fussy after I used the tape it was ok just a thought
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timmle
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30. April 2008 @ 13:59 |
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Well i tried to use Verbatim 16x discs burnt at 4x and they still didn't work with the chip and wiiclip so i have sent it back to Spain today for a replacement. That should arrive in about 4-5 working days. I noticed that when trying to attach the clip onto the IC it kind of 'rocked' on the corners and therefore wasn't fitting correctly, and all the pins weren't connecting at the same time with the IC. Well that was my conclusion anyway. However hard i tried i couldn't get it to stay flush with the board atall. So we will see how the replacement works when it comes, i have my fingers crossed at the moment, hoping it works, and well, fits correctly for a starter.
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wirerob
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4. May 2008 @ 09:05 |
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Sent mine back too. Hopefully the replacement will be fine - really want this to work - will update when replacement arrives.
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gldfingr4
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5. May 2008 @ 14:40 |
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Im having a similar problem...basically the media is just not reading. the blue light stays on the whole time for me with any disk though. i used Taiyo Yuden dvd-r 8x single layer disc with no luck. i am at a loss at what to do.
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