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'Mass Effect' to have terrible DRM
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 7 May, 2008
According to a post in the Bioware's forums, upcoming PC game Mass Effect's producer Derek French has confirmed that the game will have rolling DRM, meaning every 10 days you will need to activate the game again over the internet.
"Mass Effect uses SecuROM and requires an online activation for the first time that you play it," French says. "After the first activation, SecuROM requires ... [ read the full article ]
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ceja_11
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7. May 2008 @ 14:27 |
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Wtf?, thats all i got to say.
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ripxrush
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7. May 2008 @ 14:38 |
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um... wow i personaly liek the way M$ does it, if you want updates they you must validate! i think the internet connection is a pain! what happens when you have an outage or maybe for kids suspended from using the www! & are they going to support this in 15 years when a handful of people may still be playing?
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mrmad2001
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7. May 2008 @ 14:41 |
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If it is the future, the computer gaming market will drop worse than what it is. Pirating will increase. I personally wont purchase something that is going to be so much hassle to enjoy. Even though, I think steam is the future of distribution, they dont make you jump through hoops every 10 days....instead it just randomly crashes whatever you are playing.
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LiveChaos
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7. May 2008 @ 15:03 |
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Ridiculous! I could (maybe) see a 30-day re-check, but 10 is a little slim. And if this is the future of DRM, then it is a sad day indeed. We already have a million programs checking the net for various reasons and eating our bandwidth. Do we really need games doing it (except to get updates)?
Seriously a load of Bull*hit. I played Neverwinter 1 & 2, but if this is the way Bioware is going to treat customers, then they won't make any money from me.
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7. May 2008 @ 15:09 |
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tbh, one should buy the game so atleast it stops the pir8s,, but this hurts the consumer, who buys the game w.o internet.
if there was an online multiplayer aspect or patches etc that needed validating, that would be good, becuase you would have the internet to get it, but for SP, its s bit ridiculus
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7. May 2008 @ 15:19 |
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also what if one goes on holiday leaving thier computer at home, or their laptop doesnt have internet connections?
infact, i will not give bioware my money this time.
this will be the first time in 3 years that i will ahve to pir8 a game. and i have a ds psp and ps2 and 360 and wii. i didnt get it for 360 seeing as it was coming out on the pc, and i still want it on the pc, and if this is what it will be like, i will pi8 with a cope that removes validation.
even MS have got it right with activation against pir8s, only validating for internet updates. this is just outrageous.
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7. May 2008 @ 16:47 |
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Greed knows no bounds.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition
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7. May 2008 @ 16:52 |
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Darwin awards, round 917236405....
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clamUp
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7. May 2008 @ 17:56 |
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It'll fail. They'll blame piracy.
...and the cycle continues.
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tefarko
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7. May 2008 @ 18:02 |
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now that´s one game I´ll never buy...
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7. May 2008 @ 18:13 |
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Wow...I can see where this is going. No one will buy this DRM trash and they will have poor sales...they can then blame it on piracy.
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david89
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7. May 2008 @ 18:17 |
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this suck guess i won't buy the game for sure.
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7. May 2008 @ 19:17 |
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Originally posted by clamUp:
It'll fail. They'll blame piracy.
...and the cycle continues.
Ain't that the truth.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition
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oappi
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7. May 2008 @ 19:19 |
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Wow... i can already see class action against this studio. This isn´t digitalrightsmanigment anymore this is something like screw_our_customers_software. No matter how good the game that uses this is, im sure as hell not going to buy one. 10 days isn´t even that long..
who keeps all the games installed anyway . I have many games that i play few days a year and wont install them everytime i reinstall windows. Atleast i would be mad as hell if i couldn´t return to old classics like might and magic VII once or twice in a year. if my windows avarege life span is between half a year to year most (have been using 2000,xp,vista) it would take a day more to install all the games... maybe in the future it will be easier since im starting to buy my games on steam <3 it still takes time to download games again, but atleast i dont have to search my room for the serial keys and watch when install is finnished to start another.
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drach
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7. May 2008 @ 22:30 |
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Stupidest idea ever!!!
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7. May 2008 @ 22:35 |
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Yeah, I haven't bought a PC game in a while but my distrobution venue of choice is Steam... I just enjoy it, and I know the company won't be going out of busniess any time soon...
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7. May 2008 @ 23:12 |
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i just realised somthing, i and most others, who have computer that can actually play the game, have superb computers, and therefor have the net, and will play with nothing going wrong.
unless you loose ur net, your fine.
even if you go on holiday, when you get back, just let it validate for a few secs, and you done.
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7. May 2008 @ 23:30 |
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Well in a sense this could force people to pirate more than they probably would have. People will be looking more and more for cracks now which in turn will probably make them wonder why pay for a game that uses such DRM. Just my thought on the situation.
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varnull
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8. May 2008 @ 00:07 |
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windsong
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8. May 2008 @ 00:20 |
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Didn't anyone pay attention to when Bioware sold out to EA a few months back? Everyone predicted this would happen the same way it happened to Origin Systems (Ultima series), Bullfrog, Westwood, etc.
Give it a couple of years, and all PC games will be "subscription" based online only games. F^&k that.
I still have my original discs from Baldurs Gate I and II, as well as both Icewind games. I also bought Planescape in 2003 when it was only 15 bucks at wal-mart. Not buying this one, that is for certain. I won't reward arse-packing by some mega-corporate sell-out company who treats customers like cattle.
Oh Bioware..how thee hath fallen!
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nobrainer
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8. May 2008 @ 02:35 |
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Originally posted by ceja_11:
Wtf?, thats all i got to say.
another title i refuse to purchase as i am not going to fund anti-consumer.
secuROM is sony DRM and maybe this is a taste of things to come once blu-ray players all have net connections.
anti-consumer as always sony.
Originally posted by varnull:
Related thing.. and may interest people who play online..
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/200...yright-law.html
And all the time every little piece of non-news from sony gets reported, yet this gets missed..
did you submit it dude? http://www.afterdawn.com/news/submit.cfm
i thin that gold farming is very lame and is unwelcome in any mmorpg's it's cheating and there is a real problem with gold farmers ripping ppl off. saying that if the game makers could sell the gold themselves they would but you'd see their servers dry up very quickly other than a bunch of cheaters all cheating together.
i suppose with sonys home and selling extra content like guns and maps in games is a way to cash the same as gold sellers but its just money grabbing tactics that is targeting children.
the DMCA is constantly being abused, but that is why the RIAA/MPAA lobbied to make it law, just w8 for the Pro-IP act to pass if you think the DMCA is bad!
btw this is sony related as screwUrom is sony DRM.
BOYCOTT anti-consumer, its the only way to stop them ppl.
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8. May 2008 @ 04:29 |
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Ahhh... There's nothing like being treated like a criminal to make ya feel like a criminal...
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Hardwyre
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8. May 2008 @ 09:18 |
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So what'll happen with this? the non-criminals will rely on the criminals to crack the software. it'll happen, and be that much more rewarding when it does.
Mass Effect wasn't even that awesome of a game. Sure it was fun, but after two play-throughs I have never picked it up again.
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varnull
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8. May 2008 @ 11:38 |
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I'm on a wait and see for the whole lot of it.
I am worried by this increasing trend to force compiliance with so called copyrights, especially when it only relates to code you have running in ram. Pretty pointless trying to do anything if that becomes the case.. as soon as you touch a key you have changed code and are breaking copyright... What blizzard are attempting is dangerous in the extreme.. and it should get railroaded out of court within minutes. Right or wrong.. the gold farmers have the right to modify code that runs on their ram in their computers.. They provide a service to the game in one way by keeping a flow of convertible currency flying about, in other ways they are seen as cheats. It's a matter of personal morals how you feel about them... Me?? I don't take it one way or another.. there are pros and cons to the situation. To stop everything of this nature and only allow "authorised" patches and hacks will most certainly just about finish off the next generation of game coders... unless that is.. they come over to the darkside, join the FSF and start writing open source games.
This is why I am a member of the FSF (see link in my sig) and why I believe in free software (not necessarily free of charge, but) Free to modify and use in any way you see fit, so long as you don't attempt to profit from the work of others without express permission.
I'm with Richard Stallman on this one, though to many he may seem a little extreme and cranky about it, he has a very valid point.. If it is free others can make it better, very often to the benefit of the sellers and at no cost to them.
Sharing becomes irrelevant, and drm pointless. As everybody has access to the source code, and can build any variant they want the inclination to steal goes away, and the makers can still sell their binaries or whatever with a clean conscience.
My take on all of this is.. If they want to use restrictive drm and other lockout tactics.. they find themselves locked out of my purse. Leave the crap on the shelves.. Nothing makes a business change it's ideas quicker than an unsold product.
As with the Daniel_K fracas a month ago.. these companies just end up paying a lot of money for the egg on their faces.. Expect cracks within days of release, if not before ;)
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emugamer
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8. May 2008 @ 12:13 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i just realised somthing, i and most others, who have computer that can actually play the game, have superb computers, and therefor have the net, and will play with nothing going wrong.
unless you loose ur net, your fine.
even if you go on holiday, when you get back, just let it validate for a few secs, and you done.
It's the principle though. There are too many possibilities and "what-if's" that could render the game useless in the future for any number of people with varying circumstances.
The release groups are going to have a field day creating an executable crack for this one. And I agree with someone in this thread who said that people who have never pirated a game before may just do that in this case. I don't get much video game time - maybe an hour here and there, which is never enough to finish a game quickly. (I'm still dragging along in Half Life 2 Episode 2 :P) So I would get pretty annoyed by day 40 to have to dig up the serial key, realizing that since I don't get to play the game much, I may have to do it 10 or more times.
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