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i just realised somthing, i and most others, who have computer that can actually play the game, have superb computers, and therefor have the net, and will play with nothing going wrong.

unless you loose ur net, your fine.

even if you go on holiday, when you get back, just let it validate for a few secs, and you done.

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It's the principle though. There are too many possibilities and "what-if's" that could render the game useless in the future for any number of people with varying circumstances.

The release groups are going to have a field day creating an executable crack for this one. And I agree with someone in this thread who said that people who have never pirated a game before may just do that in this case. I don't get much video game time - maybe an hour here and there, which is never enough to finish a game quickly. (I'm still dragging along in Half Life 2 Episode 2 :P) So I would get pretty annoyed by day 40 to have to dig up the serial key, realizing that since I don't get to play the game much, I may have to do it 10 or more times.

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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i just realised somthing, i and most others, who have computer that can actually play the game, have superb computers, and therefor have the net, and will play with nothing going wrong.

unless you loose ur net, your fine.

even if you go on holiday, when you get back, just let it validate for a few secs, and you done.

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It's the principle though. There are too many possibilities and "what-if's" that could render the game useless in the future for any number of people with varying circumstances.

The release groups are going to have a field day creating an executable crack for this one. And I agree with someone in this thread who said that people who have never pirated a game before may just do that in this case. I don't get much video game time - maybe an hour here and there, which is never enough to finish a game quickly. (I'm still dragging along in Half Life 2 Episode 2 :P) So I would get pretty annoyed by day 40 to have to dig up the serial key, realizing that since I don't get to play the game much, I may have to do it 10 or more times.

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twas me who posted that after 3 years, i will return to pir8 this.

and you dont need your serial key everytime, just once, to install it. you will just need the physical DVD, which tbh is there to be used, unless your a nutter about usign them, and cracks them.

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Originally posted by redux79:

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Bad news everyone, this isn't the only game that this is planned for. I'm not sure if anyone here is familiar with g4tv but there was a news update referring to this new drm on the pc version of mass effect. Apparently that game spore that's been delayed for close to two years will also have the 10 day rolling drm. They also mentioned that a number of new releases are going to have this crap on it.

If this doesn't get shot down right away I can see pc game developers suffering a whole lot more from their own drm than pirated copies. To think that drm has to get this bad in order for people to see that not only does drm not work; it can actually be more harmful than piracy. Oh the irony

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At the start of the year Sony filed a patent that could threaten the second hand games market and independent retailers alike.

The patent would allow Sony to lock a game to the first console that it was played on, meaning that if you sold the game or lent it to a friend they would be unable to play it on their console.

Sony stated at the time that the aim is to protect itself from counterfeit software, but were aware that the same technology would also prevent the re-sale of used games.

At the time many people shrugged it off not really thinking Sony would go through with the idea as it would kill the second hand games market, the games rental market and seriously hurt independent retailers. All of which could damage PS3 console and games sales.

However retail sources have revealed to GamesRadar that "high street games shops have been told by Sony that there will be no PS3 pre-owned sections in their stores as it will be illegal for customers to sell any next-gen PlayStation games that they've bought"

It seems that Sony intend to do this by adopting a licensing scheme which means that gamers won't actually own their games, instead they will merely be purchasing a licence to play them.

Will Sony use their patent? Will Sony make it illegal to re-sell PS3 games?

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At the start of the year Sony filed a patent that could threaten the second hand games market and independent retailers alike.

The patent would allow Sony to lock a game to the first console that it was played on, meaning that if you sold the game or lent it to a friend they would be unable to play it on their console.

Sony stated at the time that the aim is to protect itself from counterfeit software, but were aware that the same technology would also prevent the re-sale of used games.

At the time many people shrugged it off not really thinking Sony would go through with the idea as it would kill the second hand games market, the games rental market and seriously hurt independent retailers. All of which could damage PS3 console and games sales.

However retail sources have revealed to GamesRadar that "high street games shops have been told by Sony that there will be no PS3 pre-owned sections in their stores as it will be illegal for customers to sell any next-gen PlayStation games that they've bought"

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Originally posted by redux79:

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Bad news everyone, this isn't the only game that this is planned for. I'm not sure if anyone here is familiar with g4tv but there was a news update referring to this new drm on the pc version of mass effect. Apparently that game spore that's been delayed for close to two years will also have the 10 day rolling drm. They also mentioned that a number of new releases are going to have this crap on it.

If this doesn't get shot down right away I can see pc game developers suffering a whole lot more from their own drm than pirated copies. To think that drm has to get this bad in order for people to see that not only does drm not work; it can actually be more harmful than piracy. Oh the irony

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it surely is but what do you expect from sony with their track record of anti-consumer, their secuROM DRM is just morphing a little more anti-consumer every week, but what is more worrying is this type of drm was a patent put forward for BD+ drm also locking media to one person was another, so expect this sort of anti-consumer measures on blu-ray films once profile 2.0 is released.



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Originally posted by link:

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At the start of the year Sony filed a patent that could threaten the second hand games market and independent retailers alike.

The patent would allow Sony to lock a game to the first console that it was played on, meaning that if you sold the game or lent it to a friend they would be unable to play it on their console.

Sony stated at the time that the aim is to protect itself from counterfeit software, but were aware that the same technology would also prevent the re-sale of used games.

At the time many people shrugged it off not really thinking Sony would go through with the idea as it would kill the second hand games market, the games rental market and seriously hurt independent retailers. All of which could damage PS3 console and games sales.

However retail sources have revealed to GamesRadar that "high street games shops have been told by Sony that there will be no PS3 pre-owned sections in their stores as it will be illegal for customers to sell any next-gen PlayStation games that they've bought"

It seems that Sony intend to do this by adopting a licensing scheme which means that gamers won't actually own their games, instead they will merely be purchasing a licence to play them.

Will Sony use their patent? Will Sony make it illegal to re-sell PS3 games?

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although sony to this date has not used this patent on physical media it is exactly what they did with the psn release of warhawk, where you only purchased a licence to play the game until sony tell you that you can't and you are also not allowed to re-sell, lend or even give it away, maybe a test of public opinion.

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When Mass Effect comes to the computer it will not use SecuROM's 10-day periodic re-authentication and instead will instead use a modification to do only a one-time online authentication, Bioware announced today.

The developer said the decision came after listening "very closely" to its fans and that the new system will also allow gamers to play the game without the DVD in the drive.

The system will allow gamers to authenticate their game on just three computers, but EA does have the ability to give additional authorizations if they are warranted.

Hit up the jump for the official FAQ and to let us know what you think about this change of heart.

Q: What is the difference between the old PC disc authentication solution and the new online model?

A: Two things have changed:

? First, authentication of discs has now gone from the physical format to the online format, freeing the need for consumers to have a disc in the drive at all times.

? Second, with online authentication consumers now connect to the Internet the first time the game is launched and are required only to reconnect if they are downloading new game content.

Q: Will EA or BioWare take any personal information from my computer during an authentication?

A: Absolutely not. We do not take any personal information from your computer. The system simply verifies that a valid CD key has been provided and assigns that activation to that PC.

Q: What happens when I?ve reached the maximum # of computers for my game and I need more, say due to theft of computer, computer crashes, etc?

A: EA customer service is on hand to supply any additional authorizations that are warranted. This will be done on a case-by-case basis by contacting customer support.

Q: Why are BioWare and EA implementing this new authentication process?

A: This serves to protect our software from piracy. It has the added benefit of allowing consumers to activate the game on multiple machines without needing the DVD in the drive when playing the game.

Q: Did BioWare and EA change their mind on requiring that the game be re-authorized every 10 days?

A: BioWare has always listened very closely to its fans and we made this decision to ensure we are delivering the best possible experience to them. To all the fans including our many friends in the armed services and internationally who expressed concerns that they would not be able re-authenticate as often as required, EA and BioWare want you to know that your feedback is important to us.

Q: If the game isn?t going to require an authentication every 10 days, will it ever require re-authentication?

A: Only if the player chooses to download new game content.

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A: Only if the player chooses to download new game content.

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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wat invasion of privacy, this will stop pir8s.

just becuase most of AD pir8s, doesnt make it right to do so. there are a lto of hard working folk (read non teens) that actually pay for it, becuase if it wernt for us, there would be no need to make games, and give them away for free

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