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Fake media files hit file sharers with trojan

article published on 8 May, 2008

Sources from the security firm McAfee have stated that over 500,000 machines have reported being infected by a new trojan going around that's disguised as media files shared on popular P2P networks. These files can either look like a popular and heavily seeded music or movie file and often contain the name of whatever popular file is going around the P2P networks now is actually a trojan ... [ read the full article ]

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1. September 2008 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fibroptik if you think bringing in politics to prove a point is smart then yeah I disagree with you and like I said your a moron.Politics and religion do not belong in discussions that do not involve politics or religion.Your trying to start a flame war which I do not condone.If your trying to instigate something this is not the right place for you go somewhere else.

Nobody wants to hear politics or religion when the subject has nothing to do with it.

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I have a brother who's an idiot so I'm fluent in dumb-ass.
I don't doubt it you seem like your pretty fluent with it as you take after your brother from the way you view him.I'm not sure if that was an insult,but it sounded like you put yourself down.




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1. September 2008 @ 21:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not even running any agenda here.. a computer is only as secure as the software it runs and the attitude of the operator.

I come from a time when having a computer in the house made you unusual. You knew how it worked, and how the software worked after a fashion at least.

While not everything may be made for a particular platform that really isn't the point.. there are applications for non windows platforms that make most M$ closed code apps look like toys for the very reason they are open source and have been modified to do what the end users want instead of what a business wants to sell you, and keep selling you when the next closed OS arrives and all they have to do is change a couple of flags somewhere in it to force you to buy the same stuff again. (dx10 on xp.. open source would have exposed this vista lockin lie)

Like McD's just because everybody uses it and it is everywhere doesn't mean it is good, just that it is well known and marketed at you (vista trial versions bloatware anybody?)

The point I'm trying to make is this.. I don't hate M$ and I don't hate Bill.. they did a pretty amazing thing for computers in the home with windows95 just at the right time. Trouble is they made it too easy.. they took the thinking out of owning a machine that was soon to be connected everywhere across the world.

The difference is as simple as that. Non windows users tend to be a little more clued up about their hardware and software. We get our software legally from trusted sources (because it is open source we don't need to steal it from dubious places). We run our browsers in a safe environment and with sensible user practices. We know pretty much what should be where and what does and doesn't need access to the wider internet. I think I said before about the windows trained behaviour.. "allow"--"next-next-next-finish-reboot".. Foolproof? Yeah, it will install a good program as easily as it will install some virus or malware.
The M$ motto should be "let us do your thinking". The main suggestion I see about vista almost everywhere is to disable it's security features, because they get in the way all the time. That says to me that the OS is flawed at the core. If it needs intrusive security systems which are so intrusive they need to be killed then they haven't thought it through, or they are trying to sell a feature that nobody wants/understands.

What do the open source operating systems actually do? Pretty much anything they want you to with the added bonus.. they are all different. I'm not scared by a bsd or a solaris machine or even, god forbid, a vista machine.. why?.. because it's only a machine running some code. It's supposed to only do what I tell it to do. That's why I don't agree with the M$ mindset of taking control from the user and hiding it away.

I see kids coming out of school with IT qualifications... what they really have is some training in a few closed source windows platform applications.. that has nothing to do with IT and I see them every day fighting with industrial and business hardware which runs something completely alien to them and without the pretty GUI tools they are used to. Luckily the collapsing economy means that schools are having to rethink their IT strategies and are moving to open source systems which don't need new hardware to run up to date relevant applications. They may not be M$ word.. but OO writer and abiword are word processors which are both business standard and quality.. what does it matter.. The user has no trouble using M$ word after learning on a few open source alternatives... different mindset.. look at the menus.. have an experiment.. don't accept it will all be done for you ;)

Nobody wants to try my malware then? It's supposedly a patch to allow M$ publisher to save in sla/slt/slb open source publishing formats. XD
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1. September 2008 @ 22:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well yeah I'm going to be honest I don't use just one OS,but its true if the OS is secure antivirus programs wouldn't be needed.As you mentioned most apps now can perform without the users request.There are no permissions in Windows depending on which OS we are talking about,although Vista tries to encorporate permissions by asking users to allow anything to run everytime the app is trying to open it bogs the system down.Its true Linux and Unix systems are not for the faint hearted or overwhelm some normal users.They are more secure as you mentioned,and they may not be as flashy as Windows but can perform better in my opinion.The majority of large corporations normally buy into Windows,and its true if we did a poll I bet there are more organizations using Windows than any other OS.If we are talking about normal users its a preference of choice like you mentioned,but I do see Windows being the mainstream for business.It doesn't always work for some,but there are a bunch of businesses that use it as most prebuilt computers come with Windows installed on it.There are some exceptions but the majority as mentioned are brought into Windows from the start.Its like going to an interview for the first time the first impression plays a big role.




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1. September 2008 @ 23:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think it depends very much what industry it is. Most heavy manufacturing runs hardcore unix.. because it's what was about 20 years ago when they tooled up last. Same seems to go for banks and other large and wide networked business.. travel agents and national distributors I see running mostly solaris for some odd reason.. probably like heavy industry it was what was available when they built their systems in the 70's and 80's.
Publishers and the newspapers seem to run a bit of a hotch potch.. lot of BSD type unix there, some of it seems totally in house.

It's the small offices where windows seems to be the norm.. 5 or 6 computers all individually networked and seemingly under no overall control.

My view is probably skewed because of the nature of my business, but I think the corporate windows use is just shy of 50%.. mainly because they are the only people who are counting every single machine it seems to be higher. How many business users runing linux/unix or other open source have ever bothered registering it? In my experience it's just installed and left to get on with it until the IT manager retires and they get some snotty nosed 20 year old who has never seen anything but windows.. faced with a bill in the tens of thousands to make the IT "expert" happy with his xp or vista that's when my phone starts ringing ;) I love my job... honest.
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2. September 2008 @ 00:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you use torrent sites. Just read the comments before downloading a file. They will tell you if it fake, virus, or trojan ect ect ect.
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3. September 2008 @ 22:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not always... You find files with loads of comments and heaps of seeds.. they can be infected too, The comments and seeds are the botherding group XD ... as can a legit file which somebody has tampered with since downloading ;)

How is it done? http://www.757labs.com/projects/mp3nema/
 
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