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60 percent of GTA IV sales were for Xbox 360?
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article published on 8 May, 2008
After Take-Two announced that the blockbuster hit GTA IV had hit $500 million USD in sales for its first week, Microsoft was quick to release data alleging that over 60 percent of those sales were for the Xbox 360 console and not the rival PlayStation 3.
The software maker claimed that 3.75 million copies of the 6 million sold worldwide in the first week were for the Xbox 360 console ... [ read the full article ]
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it was a $50 million loan, not just a check for $50 million. Take 2 has to pay it back and it was for some downloadable content for the 360 that will hit sometime this fall. It doesn't say anywhere that the ps3 won't get its own unique downloadable content later on, just that the 360 will get it first. As if "100+ hours of gameplay" wasn't enough for all of you. Not that it matters to me very much, i never understood the appeal of sand box games such as this.
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
it was a $50 million loan, not just a check for $50 million. Take 2 has to pay it back and it was for some downloadable content for the 360 that will hit sometime this fall. It doesn't say anywhere that the ps3 won't get its own unique downloadable content later on, just that the 360 will get it first. As if "100+ hours of gameplay" wasn't enough for all of you. Not that it matters to me very much, i never understood the appeal of sand box games such as this.
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haha..this article seems like an elaborate ploy to cause a ruckus and a console war, with flamers and fanboys...
since nobody has said it, i think i'll take part in the merriment.
RROD.
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I've read many blogs on the net stating that the PS3 version of GTA IV is running at 640p (1152 x 640).
We here in Australia must be more fortunate as our PS3 version of GTA IV is running at full 1080p. The cover shows the option for 720p/1080p.
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
PS3 did sell a lot, man!! And i cant say that i have a comment for the charge for xbox live besides that i wish it were free i admit, and it is way better than ps3's online.
This has been bugging me for a bit. Why would some people buy the game for both consoles. That just seems like a waste of money unless you have more than One gamer who will be playing GTAIV. Then you have some that have both consoles but said they bought it for the ps3. Did you guys forget the xbox360 has the rights to the downloadable exclusive content that will eventually be released and the ps3 doesnot???
Xbox360 version wins.....
... Only as an instant gratification-type purchase (and assuming your 360 still works), after you are tired with the game and realize you own a piece of hardware that is struggling to keep up with the times.. even after all the add-ons that would bring it to a "compareable" level with the PS3. The game has very few differences as many reviewers can tell you. People bitch about the HDD install for the PS3 because the load times dont seem to be affected. Fact of the matter is, that the HDD install significantly reduces the "pop up" effect with your surrounding environment. This does make the game look much smoother, but probably doesn't effect someone's decision to buy a next-gen console when the price is so different. I just feel bad for people who base a next-gen console purchase on a video game based on price and no research.
You get what you pay for.... and then some.
.. and the downloadable content that nobody has even spoken specifics on may be exclusive for the time being.. but how long do you think 50 million buys exclusivity to such HUGE intelectual property in a multi-BILLION dollar industry?
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Microsoft paid 50 million for exclusive downloadable content. Maybe some people are getting confused and think it means Inclusive.
Exclusive = for that system alone. Not going to be on any other system.
And without getting shot, the xbox version has better graphics. I can say this because with a 52" Samsung 1080p HDTV you can notice the difference in the quality for anything. eg. playing a standard DVD in my Harmon/Kardon DVD48 player looks better then on the PS3. COD4 looks better on the PS3 than on the Xbox360.
Why would someone buy the game for both 360 and PS3? Well I guess I liked the safety deposit boxes.
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Sony Australia Claims GTA IV Victory. Says Microsoft got it wrong.
As Ephraim explains, "You might have seen the local Microsoft press release that came out last week. Well, I want to tell you that that is completely wrong, because what they failed to communicate or add was the 5000 GTA PS3 bundles that were sold in that week. When you add that in, the PS3 SKU outsold the 360 SKU definitely. We can't comment on GTA numbers ? just that one bundle and that PS3 outsold 360 at EB ? and their figures aren't factored into GfK statistics."
It was a point that was reiterated by internal sales data from Australia's largest game retailer, EB. He continued, "The other thing I can tell you ? and I feel comfortable telling you because I've asked them ? EB, in the standalone data?across EB in Australia, the PS3 SKU outsold the Xbox 360 SKU too."
Essentially, we don't have either party's sales figures for the week, but Ephraim believes that the difference of 5000 was enough to put Sony ahead of MS's release of GTA IV ? without even being factored into the GfK figures.
http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-144381.aspx
Looks like Microsoft is getting really Pissed that Sony has pass them in total console sold in Eur, that has there PR department going non stop with the BS Fud here lately.
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Originally posted by chubbyInc:
Microsoft paid 50 million for exclusive downloadable content. Maybe some people are getting confused and think it means Inclusive.
Exclusive = for that system alone. Not going to be on any other system.
Remember when all GTA games were "exclusive" to the PS2? How long did that last for San Andreas... not very. Rockstar will release downloadable content for PS3 as well. In the meantime, ps3 users can still play it online for free until MGS4 comes out in June (speaking of exclusive.
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Originall posted by Hunt720
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... Only as an instant gratification-type purchase (and assuming your 360 still works), after you are tired with the game and realize you own a piece of hardware that is struggling to keep up with the times.. even after all the add-ons that would bring it to a "compareable" level with the PS3.
Well currently,at this time, the date is May 12, 2008 and at this time Xbox 360 does not struggle to keep up with the PS3 and there are no add-ons needed.
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Please post a few links to support this. If you have seen or read it online you should have no problem posting a few links to support this. Otherwise I will believe what i have read at various sites and post on numerous websites. You can search and find the "exclusive" talk for GTA IV on Xbox 360. So why no supported truth that PS3 will get the downloable content later???.....
As well as the metal gear solid that is soon to be released and the exclusive talk, yeah it will sell consoles I am sure and man i can honestly say i loved the last edition on ps2, i cant lie about that man. But PS3 is due to have some exclusives released and they need a lot more. Xbox 360 has had plenty exclusives that are highly rated in reviews. I can tell you this though, I wish Microsoft had Hot Shots golf. I have always been a huge fan and Tiger Woods golf is just not as fun to me. PS3 has many exclusives that are due to be released this year and they are some heavy weights at that but we will have to wait and see what happens with the tides. Honestly i think this year will be a great battle between the next-gen consoles. PS3 will pull ahead of all competion once the two kings of games are released on the PS3 but that is so far away. The two games i think will have the biggest impact for PS3 are SOCUM 3, and God of War 3. Socums online poularity in the past has been unmatched and the last God of War was acually a contender for game of the year. That is hard to believe since it is not on one of the next-gen system so go ahead and flex some muscle PS2. LOL. This should be proof to all that say "oh grapics on ps3 are better, No graphics on xbox 360 are better" that graphics dont make a game great they are just icing on the cake. I do love cake though, so go figure.
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@ lxhotboy
It sounds as though you know your consoles.. but maybe google was difficult. My support? Heres just a couple links:
http://www.gamecollision.com/news/grand-...ntent-confirmed
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68768
If the 360 isn't struggling... then explain the hardware failure rate as a positive thing. When my 360 fried.. and then my refurb.... I honestly would have had far less euphemismically pleasing verbs to use for the console than "struggling". Now, I understand that the failure rate has been cut almost in half by the falcon chip, but I honestly can rattle off many features the 360 struggles with that the PS3 does out of box. I'm not even talking about the unneccecary 100$ wireless adapter either. I'm talking more about the USB port the adapter plugs into that has restrictions put on it that force you to buy the crappy proprietary HDD's to soak up all the "dowloadable content" that you will have to eventually delete your other files (demos, music, video, etc.) to be able to utilize. I'm talking about a fan that is louder than my old windows 95 machine I donated to goodwill, thus making it the LOUDEST dvd/HD-dvd player available. I'm talking about the HDMI port that wasnt even originally designed to be on the machine, and yet anyone who has compared HDMI to Component cables knows the difference.. and also the fact that it only supports HDMI 1.2 as opposed to the latest 1.3 .... oh, here's the source for that if you haven't been able to find the time to google it:
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360][/url]
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Although the Premium package does include an HDMI 1.2 output, it does not come with HDMI 1.2 cables
You can compound these issues with the fact that the system uses DVD-9 format discs and developers are running out of compression schemes to make titles fit on these discs (lost odessey anyone???). People will tell you how proud they are to stand up and insert disc 2, but the fact is that Sony thought ahead and won't have to worry about compression till much later... if at all.
Most multi-platform titles store on average 2-3 gigs more on the blu-ray version. I'm tired of having games developed for the weaker system so that they look close to the same on both. It may do wonders fot the Gametrailers jaded comparisons, but it only hinders those who could be experiencing much more on a better console. If you don't agree, I don't blame you. I really can't. The 360 is a BLAST to play when it works. I logged many Halo 3 hours in before I made my switch. I know the library of games is larger, but that doesn't make it better. I still can't believe developers want to port over Vampire Rain! WTF! I'm sure we can both agree that game was a joke at best.
I think games should be developed individually for consoles. If GTA had been specially developed for the PS3, it would have blown minds the way Uncharted did on a technical level. Even if you could strip Uncharted down to fit on a DVD-9, the 360 would still lack the processors needed to make that game what it is on the PS3. Naughty Dog developers even said the game would be "much different" on the 360.
... and for everyone else who doesn't have access to a search engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqDVLa2bnLQ
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It sounds as though you know your consoles.. but maybe google was difficult. My support? Heres just a couple links:
http://www.gamecollision.com/news/grand-...ntent-confirmed
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68768
If the 360 isn't struggling... then explain the hardware failure rate as a positive thing. When my 360 fried.. and then my refurb.... I honestly would have had far less euphemismically pleasing verbs to use for the console than "struggling". Now, I understand that the failure rate has been cut almost in half by the falcon chip, but I honestly can rattle off many features the 360 struggles with that the PS3 does out of box. I'm not even talking about the unneccecary 100$ wireless adapter either. I'm talking more about the USB port the adapter plugs into that has restrictions put on it that force you to buy the crappy proprietary HDD's to soak up all the "dowloadable content" that you will have to eventually delete your other files (demos, music, video, etc.) to be able to utilize. I'm talking about a fan that is louder than my old windows 95 machine I donated to goodwill, thus making it the LOUDEST dvd/HD-dvd player available. I'm talking about the HDMI port that wasnt even originally designed to be on the machine, and yet anyone who has compared HDMI to Component cables knows the difference.. and also the fact that it only supports HDMI 1.2 as opposed to the latest 1.3 .... oh, here's the source for that if you haven't been able to find the time to google it:
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360][/url]
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Although the Premium package does include an HDMI 1.2 output, it does not come with HDMI 1.2 cables
You can compound these issues with the fact that the system uses DVD-9 format discs and developers are running out of compression schemes to make titles fit on these discs (lost odessey anyone???). People will tell you how proud they are to stand up and insert disc 2, but the fact is that Sony thought ahead and won't have to worry about compression till much later... if at all.
Most multi-platform titles store on average 2-3 gigs more on the blu-ray version. I'm tired of having games developed for the weaker system so that they look close to the same on both. It may do wonders fot the Gametrailers jaded comparisons, but it only hinders those who could be experiencing much more on a better console. If you don't agree, I don't blame you. I really can't. The 360 is a BLAST to play when it works. I logged many Halo 3 hours in before I made my switch. I know the library of games is larger, but that doesn't make it better. I still can't believe developers want to port over Vampire Rain! WTF! I'm sure we can both agree that game was a joke at best.
I think games should be developed individually for consoles. If GTA had been specially developed for the PS3, it would have blown minds the way Uncharted did on a technical level. Even if you could strip Uncharted down to fit on a DVD-9, the 360 would still lack the processors needed to make that game what it is on the PS3. Naughty Dog developers even said the game would be "much different" on the 360.
... and for everyone else who doesn't have access to a search engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqDVLa2bnLQ
Good work..
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Originally posted by Hunt720:
@ lxhotboy
It sounds as though you know your consoles.. but maybe google was difficult. My support? Heres just a couple links:
http://www.gamecollision.com/news/grand-...ntent-confirmed
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68768
If the 360 isn't struggling... then explain the hardware failure rate as a positive thing. When my 360 fried.. and then my refurb.... I honestly would have had far less euphemismically pleasing verbs to use for the console than "struggling". Now, I understand that the failure rate has been cut almost in half by the falcon chip, but I honestly can rattle off many features the 360 struggles with that the PS3 does out of box. I'm not even talking about the unneccecary 100$ wireless adapter either. I'm talking more about the USB port the adapter plugs into that has restrictions put on it that force you to buy the crappy proprietary HDD's to soak up all the "dowloadable content" that you will have to eventually delete your other files (demos, music, video, etc.) to be able to utilize. I'm talking about a fan that is louder than my old windows 95 machine I donated to goodwill, thus making it the LOUDEST dvd/HD-dvd player available. I'm talking about the HDMI port that wasnt even originally designed to be on the machine, and yet anyone who has compared HDMI to Component cables knows the difference.. and also the fact that it only supports HDMI 1.2 as opposed to the latest 1.3 .... oh, here's the source for that if you haven't been able to find the time to google it:
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360][/url]
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Although the Premium package does include an HDMI 1.2 output, it does not come with HDMI 1.2 cables
You can compound these issues with the fact that the system uses DVD-9 format discs and developers are running out of compression schemes to make titles fit on these discs (lost odessey anyone???). People will tell you how proud they are to stand up and insert disc 2, but the fact is that Sony thought ahead and won't have to worry about compression till much later... if at all.
Most multi-platform titles store on average 2-3 gigs more on the blu-ray version. I'm tired of having games developed for the weaker system so that they look close to the same on both. It may do wonders fot the Gametrailers jaded comparisons, but it only hinders those who could be experiencing much more on a better console. If you don't agree, I don't blame you. I really can't. The 360 is a BLAST to play when it works. I logged many Halo 3 hours in before I made my switch. I know the library of games is larger, but that doesn't make it better. I still can't believe developers want to port over Vampire Rain! WTF! I'm sure we can both agree that game was a joke at best.
I think games should be developed individually for consoles. If GTA had been specially developed for the PS3, it would have blown minds the way Uncharted did on a technical level. Even if you could strip Uncharted down to fit on a DVD-9, the 360 would still lack the processors needed to make that game what it is on the PS3. Naughty Dog developers even said the game would be "much different" on the 360.
... and for everyone else who doesn't have access to a search engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqDVLa2bnLQ
even with all the bad press and all the sony lovers bashing at evrey corner the 360 still sells.why do you think that is?
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even with all the bad press and all the sony lovers bashing at evrey corner the 360 still sells.why do you think that is?
cheaper console. Both price and build. Consumer ignorance helps quite a bit as well.
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Originally posted by Hunt720:
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even with all the bad press and all the sony lovers bashing at evrey corner the 360 still sells.why do you think that is?
cheaper console. Both price and build. Consumer ignorance helps quite a bit as well.
ignorance well thats a good one.how about preference,what if those people like and enjoy the 360?
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even with all the bad press and all the sony lovers bashing at evrey corner the 360 still sells.why do you think that is?
cheaper console. Both price and build. Consumer ignorance helps quite a bit as well.
ignorance well thats a good one.how about preference,what if those people like and enjoy the 360?
Then they clearly only wish to have a console that is riddled with problems if in fact they are not ignorant of the situation. .... or maybe their frathouse really likes Halo 3.
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Originally posted by Hunt720:
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even with all the bad press and all the sony lovers bashing at evrey corner the 360 still sells.why do you think that is?
cheaper console. Both price and build. Consumer ignorance helps quite a bit as well.
ignorance well thats a good one.how about preference,what if those people like and enjoy the 360?
Then they clearly only wish to have a console that is riddled with problems if in fact they are not ignorant of the situation. .... or maybe their frathouse really likes Halo 3.
so let me get this right
PS3=Smart
360=Dumb&ingnorant
Wow so like what you like or be looked at like a dummie.you live in the real world.
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Originally posted by saltynuts:
so let me get this right
PS3=Smart
360=Dumb&ingnorant
Wow so like what you like or be looked at like a dummie.you live in the real world.
No, but you are looking like a dummie that presses enter...
too many times after each quote...
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Originally posted by Hunt720:
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even with all the bad press and all the sony lovers bashing at evrey corner the 360 still sells.why do you think that is?
cheaper console. Both price and build. Consumer ignorance helps quite a bit as well.
ignorance well thats a good one.how about preference,what if those people like and enjoy the 360?
Then they clearly only wish to have a console that is riddled with problems if in fact they are not ignorant of the situation. .... or maybe their frathouse really likes Halo 3.
so let me get this right
PS3=Smart
360=Dumb&ingnorant
Wow so like what you like or be looked at like a dummie.you live in the real world.
Maybe you need an english lesson. INGNORANT= can be translated as uninformed or unaware. I never said DUMB, YOU DID. If anyone is makeing the 360 look "dumb" you are.
.. so no you didn't get it "right".
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That article is almost a year old. Is it still accurate?
http://videogamecentral.com/gamersvoice/...odes-this-fall/
http://kotaku.com/373700/sony-shrugs-off...-content-in-pr-
http://www.n4g.com/News-129170.aspx
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=770465
(I know the last link is to a forum post but the guys info comes
straight out of a Playstation Magazine)
I have seen commercials for GTA IV before but only untill a few minutes ago did i see one that ended with the following:
"Download exclusive episodes on Xbox LIVE starting Fall 2008"
Now the definition of the word EXCLUSIVEin my book doesnot mean that it will be released initially on Xbox 360 and then later on PS3.
Anyone else seen this commercial yet? I thought i was tripping at first but then i thought, you have a DVR, so i rewinded and paused the commercial to confirm. Now all you who say that PS3 will get DLC too are correct. I apoligize. But the DLC for the PS3 will be avatars and things that will be utilized in PS3's HOME when it is released, PS3 will not see the DLC that will have the two additional episodes. Sony themselves even confirms this. (Check the links) That particular DLC is for XBOX360 owners only. So i guess both will get DLC after all but PS3 will be getting the DLC with the new episodes. Common sense should have told people that Microsoft didnot pay all that money only for a temporary exclusive. It wouldnot make sense if you think about their gains and loses if that were true. Now i can say again. Xbox360 version is the version to buy. I only feel sorry for those who bought the PS3 version, who happen to have both consoles. They have been misled by people posting who only had half the story and dont know what they are talking about. I guess their only aurgument now will be the issue with the RROD since they have been proven wrong.
DLC for PS3 = related to PS3's upcoming "HOME"
DLC for Xbox 360 = two new episodes
I agree with the sony guy,in the end will Microsoft make up for all that money with that exclusice DLC? $50 million is a lot of money.
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Originally posted by Ryu77:
That article is almost a year old. Is it still accurate?
I have seen commercials for GTA IV before but only untill a few minutes ago did i see one that ended with the following:
"Download exclusive episodes on Xbox LIVE starting Fall 2008"
Now the definition of the word EXCLUSIVEin my book doesnot mean that it will be released initially on Xbox 360 and then later on PS3.
DLC for PS3 = related to PS3's upcoming "HOME"
DLC for Xbox 360 = two new episodes (exclusive for $50 million)
But in the end will Microsoft make up for all that money with that exclusice DLC. $50 million is a lot of money.
@ lxhotboy
Ryu77 full well knows that the content is exclusive and still valid, check his previous posts. don't rise to the behaviour lxhotboy.
so is there any news on just how much this sony themed home space will actually cost seems it is just virtual eye candy and not a playable game?
home = throw your money away purchasing useless graphics that isn't even a playable game, and to top it all sony are selling ALL your details on to advertisers! i think that the top scammers at sony have watched Futurama, Bender's Big Score recently and are using their spongers to ...........
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Both versions of GTA IV are excellent and recieve basically the same scores. Im not going to resort to name calling and other stupidity b/c it aint that serious but just wait till someone really immature replyies to this post and then we will have something to laugh about.
I dont know about the Home thing. It could turn out to be a huge success if sony puts the effort into "HOME" and tries to fix its limited online features, it could put significant pressure on Xbox live. Especially when i am not too thrilled to pay for Xbox live. It is great but being a PS2 supporter for a long time, i believe it should be free. If sony can provide access for free then why cant Microsoft. They are just greedy and i guess i am just stupid. J.D Rockafeller was the richest man to ever live. He actually had less money but with inflation taken into consideration he was actually richer than Bill Gates is today. Micrsoft already makes enough money, i am using windows vista right now. LOL they need to declare windows software a monopoly.
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
@ lxhotboy
Ryu77 full well knows that the content is exclusive and still valid, check his previous posts. don't rise to the behaviour lxhotboy.
Actually nobrainer, my question was a genuine one. I wasn't sure if it was still accurate which is why I asked. Your perspective is one that is quite altered due to your obvious anti Sony stance.
Please don't assume things. I am not into the immature games that so often get played here at AfterDawn. My focus is always to find a resolution to disputes that regularly get out of control. I always post with accurate information and I always approach things in a diplomatic and mature manner.
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by nobrainer:
@ lxhotboy
Ryu77 full well knows that the content is exclusive and still valid, check his previous posts. don't rise to the behaviour lxhotboy.
Actually nobrainer, my question was a genuine one. I wasn't sure if it was still accurate which is why I asked. Your perspective is one that is quite altered due to your obvious anti Sony stance.
Please don't assume things. I am not into the immature games that so often get played here at AfterDawn. My focus is always to find a resolution to disputes that regularly get out of control. I always post with accurate information and I always approach things in a diplomatic and mature manner.
Ryu don't even bother wasting your time and effort we all know what this "soap box" poster is about. Funny how you talk about peoples behavior nobrainer but yet cannot fathom your own misgivings NUMEROUS times prior.
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