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NBC triggered Vista broadcast flag
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article published on 18 May, 2008
On Monday night it appears that users trying to record NBC TV shows using Microsoft Vista's Media Center were unable to, the reason being that NBC sent off a broadcast flag that in turn activated Media Center's built in DRM copy protection measures, and stopped recordings of over-the-air and cable broadcasts.
Both NBC and Microsoft stated that they have no explanation for the issue and ... [ read the full article ]
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18. May 2008 @ 12:02 |
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18. May 2008 @ 12:10 |
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lets go nobrainer this one is right up your alley.
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18. May 2008 @ 12:19 |
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Welcome to the future Sukaz!!!! hahahaha, thank god i uninstalled vista as soon as i got my laptop, all those naive people thinking vista was going to be a step forward, how do you like it now? they got you right where they wanted, next thing you´ll see is a new message stating:
MP3 Deleted, The copyright holder has detected you haven't legally purchased 3456 songs from your library and has testricted you from playing them
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18. May 2008 @ 12:23 |
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18. May 2008 @ 15:45 |
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Originally posted by ripxrush:
i thought that broadcast flag bills where not passed???
lol, sry and europe is the next target.
American Studios' Secret Plan to Lock Down European TV Devices
Originally posted by hyper:
EFF Exposes Standards Jeopardizing Innovation and Consumer Rights
San Francisco - An international consortium of television and technology companies is devising draconian anti-consumer restrictions for the next generation of TVs in Europe and beyond, at the behest of American entertainment giants.
you know unless you are doing something illegal drm is not an issue!
boycott RIAA/MPAA media and hardware ppl make them change or die as anti-consumer is not a business model that is acceptable.
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18. May 2008 @ 16:28 |
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It looks like someone performed a "I wonder what this button does?" test.
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18. May 2008 @ 17:53 |
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Originally posted by ripxrush:
i thought that broadcast flag bills where not passed???
lol, sry and europe is the next target.
American Studios' Secret Plan to Lock Down European TV Devices
Originally posted by hyper:
EFF Exposes Standards Jeopardizing Innovation and Consumer Rights
San Francisco - An international consortium of television and technology companies is devising draconian anti-consumer restrictions for the next generation of TVs in Europe and beyond, at the behest of American entertainment giants.
you know unless you are doing something illegal drm is not an issue!
boycott RIAA/MPAA media and hardware ppl make them change or die as anti-consumer is not a business model that is acceptable.
"you know unless you are doing something illegal drm is not an issue!"
Sarcasm tags needed there bro I almost ate my tinfoil hat 0-o
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18. May 2008 @ 20:53 |
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1. Network programming is worthless crap anyway. Anyone who needs to time shift reality TV or game shows is pathetic, frankly.
2. NBC especially has nothing I'd want to watch.
3. WHAT THE HELL is the point of Media Center then? Does Microshaft have anyone with a brain working for them?
4. What a lovely way to find out what LIARS they both are. It's there, they're going to use it and they deserve the slow death and loss of income they will both experience when they implement it. The Big Three networks ahve lost the news war, they've lost the entertainment war and they're going to lose the multimedia war.
Why would anyone want WMC if they do this? Why would you watch NBC shows if it means you have to be sitting there when the show is on?
They're still living in the 50s.
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18. May 2008 @ 21:11 |
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big media wants control over what we do and what laws are enforced as so they can double dip, if you don't like it stop buying directly from them.
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18. May 2008 @ 21:12 |
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Originally posted by Gradical:
Welcome to the future Sukaz!!!! hahahaha, thank god i uninstalled vista as soon as i got my laptop, all those naive people thinking vista was going to be a step forward, how do you like it now? they got you right where they wanted, next thing you´ll see is a new message stating:
MP3 Deleted, The copyright holder has detected you haven't legally purchased 3456 songs from your library and has testricted you from playing them
Now thats funny
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18. May 2008 @ 21:15 |
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Originally posted by mspurloc:
1. Network programming is worthless crap anyway. Anyone who needs to time shift reality TV or game shows is pathetic, frankly.
2. NBC especially has nothing I'd want to watch.
3. WHAT THE HELL is the point of Media Center then? Does Microshaft have anyone with a brain working for them?
4. What a lovely way to find out what LIARS they both are. It's there, they're going to use it and they deserve the slow death and loss of income they will both experience when they implement it. The Big Three networks ahve lost the news war, they've lost the entertainment war and they're going to lose the multimedia war.
Why would anyone want WMC if they do this? Why would you watch NBC shows if it means you have to be sitting there when the show is on?
They're still living in the 50s.
What is WMC?
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18. May 2008 @ 21:24 |
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WMC is Windows Media Centre
it's nice and easy to use (at least the xp one was, havn't tried vista), but it rather restrictive, i use mediaportal now, it's a bugger to setup but works with loads of hardware and does everything and more.
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18. May 2008 @ 21:49 |
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XP forever, my TiVo and PC HD Tuner card can't be beat!
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18. May 2008 @ 22:09 |
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yep i knew drm in vista was for something this is old news really they are trying say we don't own contant so we can't record it or make a copy of our dvds etc this should of been protected under the betamax law suck that it isn't.
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18. May 2008 @ 22:29 |
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WMC in XP MCE has this too...I would occasionally get the same message when trying to view AMC (American Movie Classics), but haven't seen it in a while.
Oh well, I have the other software that came with my tuner card if I need it in rare situations like this.
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19. May 2008 @ 01:38 |
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Both NBC and Microsoft stated that they have no explanation for the issue
And a fox in the hen house cannot explain what happened to the missing chickens.
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19. May 2008 @ 02:00 |
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Originally posted by magnets:
@Wolf123
WMC is Windows Media Centre
it's nice and easy to use (at least the xp one was, havn't tried vista), but it rather restrictive, i use mediaportal now, it's a bugger to setup but works with loads of hardware and does everything and more.
I want to thank you for telling me about mediaportal been looking for aa program that works with my usb tv tuner and they are a bitch too find
The program that comes with it only records in mpeg format.
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19. May 2008 @ 02:06 |
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Originally posted by magnets:
@Wolf123
WMC is Windows Media Centre
it's nice and easy to use (at least the xp one was, havn't tried vista), but it rather restrictive, i use mediaportal now, it's a bugger to setup but works with loads of hardware and does everything and more.
I want to thank you for telling me about mediaportal been looking for aa program that works with my usb tv tuner and they are a bitch too find
The program that comes with it only records in mpeg format.
Might be good someday if I can get through the setup damn.
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19. May 2008 @ 03:07 |
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"you know unless you are doing something illegal drm is not an issue!"
D.s. 1 WORD... tivo! OH WAIT ANOTHER VCR! Yes i know that VCR is old school now days but i used to record every thing on video tape thingees we had either 2 or 3 vcr's more than anything because we do this thing called WORK! i can not always be home when the show that i want to watch is on! i have upgraded i have 2 tivos & 1 tuner in my computer but i am not doing anything different than what i did with my VCR! another thing where you are wrong, okay so i buy a cd & want it on my MP3 player or like my car has a stereo that takes usb keys it is BS if i am doing summin illegal because i am breaking DRM to get it on there!
and for whoever said it is patheatic that is not what is the issue of personal choice it is the right that we all feel we have to do so with what ever show we watch (my wife watches reality t.v. & i dont care for it but that is what she wants to watch!)
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19. May 2008 @ 03:31 |
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Wheee! All that fancy HDMI STUFF & cables ya bought..guess WHAT! It is capable of and WILL be used to DRM you to death as soon as widely adopted. Just like Blu Ray, Media Center type PC's of any flavor, and M$ FISTA. They're gonna let ya get used to the technology and slide that DRM riiiite on in! This is not a rumor or rant..GOOGLE it! Keep your old analog devices & peripherals. Even tho analog can be flagged also. It's not about Piracy...it's about dunning you for each format, each play of any media. There's not really an antidote for any of this. Except! Vote with your wallet!
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19. May 2008 @ 08:47 |
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*sighs*
Here we go. It's been no secret that Vista is loaded with DRM.
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19. May 2008 @ 10:24 |
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LMFAO @ anyone who even tries to record American Gladiators, let alone watch the show!
How is this show still even on the air?
I can't wait to read about all the news articles in the future when they set off the broadcast flag for not viewing with an HDMI cable.
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I can't wait to read about all the news articles in the future when they set off the broadcast flag for not viewing with an HDMI cable.
I don't think we're too far away from that, honestly.
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19. May 2008 @ 11:18 |
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Originally posted by 7thsinger:
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I can't wait to read about all the news articles in the future when they set off the broadcast flag for not viewing with an HDMI cable.
I don't think we're too far away from that, honestly.
Yea it's going to be great. We are going to have a huge up roar soon enough. Just imagine all those people that get screwed over during this DTV transition. Then all those folks that are using component cables to watch tv can no longer watch their shows. Yea, it's gonna be crazy.
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19. May 2008 @ 13:04 |
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So fist you have to pay for some crappy ms software that doesn´t even record what you want... come on ppl dont buy MS bs software, take a look to linux world. There is many good distros out there. Ubuntu´s mythtv install seems to have best documents and quide to install mythtv so it might be the best.
im really happy i choose mythtv even when it took some time to install. Now i can watch tv with every computer in my lan with just one tv card. i can also add as many tv cards i want so it can watch both cable and satelite same time. So basicly i can just put all my terrestial, cable and satelite cards to one computer, and watch live or set it records shows i want with web-interface... best part is, it is free!
DVB users also have multiplexing now.. so you can record whole stack at the sametime (it is about 6-14 chanels). only con is that getting other than free channels is a bit tricky.
haven´t tried linuxmce yet but that could also be good choise.
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