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Denon introduces 'affordable' Blu-ray player
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article published on 21 May, 2008
Denon has announced the availability of a new Blu-ray player in North America, dubbed the DVD-1800BD which for Denon products, is at an "affordable" price point.
The company, known for outstanding quality in their DVD and Bu-ray players added that despite the price, audio and visual quality will not be compromised.
Set with a retail price of $749 USD, the player is Profile 1.1 compliant ... [ read the full article ]
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domie
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21. May 2008 @ 18:47 |
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The DVD-1800BD "features HDMI 1.3a with Deep Color and Bonus View support
ermm HD-DVD featured deep colour support - it is useless because there is no media available processed in deep colour enhancement and absolutely no plans to introduce it either.
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21. May 2008 @ 18:51 |
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The DVD-1800BD "features HDMI 1.3a with Deep Color and Bonus View support
ermm HD-DVD featured deep colour support - it is useless because there is no media available processed in deep colour enhancement and absolutely no plans to introduce it either.
Does this mean that this brou ha ha is essentially worthless ?
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21. May 2008 @ 18:52 |
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Edit., accidental double post.
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21. May 2008 @ 19:09 |
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Set with a retail price of $749 USD.
affordable yeah right.
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21. May 2008 @ 19:25 |
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474 euros? With 440euros you get PS3+GT5 Prologue.
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21. May 2008 @ 19:46 |
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Originally posted by domie:
ermm HD-DVD featured deep colour support - it is useless because there is no media available processed in deep colour enhancement and absolutely no plans to introduce it either.
Deep color (AKA x.v. color) may not appear in commercial BluRay releases, at least for the forseeable future. HOWEVER, several new models in Sony's high-def camcorder line already support x.v. Color/Deep Color/xvYCC color. These were first unveiled at the 2007 CES with more models, including a couple from Panasonic, coming out this year.
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/...ers_ces_011907/
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/xvY...Color-34362.htm
WHen you burn BD media (presumably in AVCHD format) using video from these camcorders then you can play these on the Denon and utilize the deep color support. Of course your display also needs to support deep color (like some new Toshiba Regzas, Sony Bravias, and the new high-end 1080p projectors - like the Marantz.)
Panasonic PT-AE3000 1080p Projector//Carada 110" Criterion High Contrast Grey 16:9 Screen//Oppo BDP-83SE//Toshiba HD-XA2
Classe SSP800 Processor//Classe CA-5200 5 Channel Amplifier//Classe CA-2200 2 Channel Amplifier
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21. May 2008 @ 19:57 |
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I don't personally like a PS3, but I think the ability to play games and watch movies just seems a better deal to me.
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21. May 2008 @ 19:58 |
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Originally posted by SDF_GR:
474 euros? With 440euros you get PS3+GT5 Prologue.
agree, i just don't get why prices are that high, do they have 8 cores running??
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21. May 2008 @ 20:05 |
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Thanks...i'll just stick with my PS3.
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21. May 2008 @ 20:33 |
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That price is affordable, considering its a Denon. However, the lack of 2.0 compatibility makes the decent player practically worthless.
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21. May 2008 @ 20:36 |
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However, the lack of 2.0 compatibility makes the decent player practically worthless.
Exactly. Hence my previous post.
And there is a difference between affordable and a decent price from a high end name. A Benz on sale does not make it affordable. (at least not in my economic world)
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yeah why is a standalone so expensive, it almost feels like price gouging in order to make people buy a PS3.
if thats affordable i would hate to see the high end blue-ray players price.
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Don't get me wrong, Denon is a reputable name; but damn that's a salty price tag.
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21. May 2008 @ 21:07 |
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Set with a retail price of $749 USD.
affordable yeah right.
I was just thinking that. Affordable! My friends car cost less! I'd rather get a PS3 80GB with MGS4, Extra Controller ($560) Add 3 $60 games to that and have some left over :)
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21. May 2008 @ 21:17 |
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I can buy a Oppo 983 (top of the line) for $400. Best upconverter on the market, and still save money over the Denon.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
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21. May 2008 @ 21:40 |
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For me affordable is #100.00 USD (60.00 EURO). Even at the $100.00 pricepoint I want it to record the latest "american gladiator" episode. The only people in the US that can afford it at $800.00 are the "hollywood types" with unlimited cash.
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Affordable? LMAO!!!
And what is up with it only being 1.1?
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21. May 2008 @ 23:55 |
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Who are do these company's think their fooling? $749 is not cheap by far. Affordable would be something like $200.
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Originally posted by fgamer:
Who are do these company's think their fooling? $749 is not cheap by far. Affordable would be something like $200.
I agree. When I read the article headline I thought "affordable" meant in the < $300 range. That price is no different than what we have seen all along.. maybe slightly cheaper.. but how F#@king hard is it to have an ethernet port and some upgradeable firmware??? I know how much DRM sucks.. but I also know that some Blu-Ray titles (future titles) are expected to have an online check before they will play in your machine... thats pretty F#$ked up.. but even if you were going to try and do that with this "affordable" machine, you can't. I don't need to play movie-themed games online against other blu-ray 2.0 owning people, but I still think that a player I pay almost 800 dollars for (after sales tax) should play ALL Blu-Ray titles. Companies like this just fuel the purchasing of the PS3. They definately don't create a competition as the PS3 offers ALL of this PLUS more at nearly half the price.
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agreed; this is not what one would call affordable.
do we have confirmation that there's a "phone home" feature being put in blu-ray movies?
not like i'd ever let a box like that connect to the internet to check anyway.
i just had a flash of having to disconnect my ps3 from the internet every time i wanna play a movie.
lame.
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Originally posted by SDF_GR:
474 euros? With 440euros you get PS3+GT5 Prologue.
denon make hi-fi and thx quality goods not just a conduit to view or watch media. sony are bit like the free audio leads that are supplied in the box, where as denon are more like a pair of Van Den Hull's or QED's, and who exactly wants an ugly box stacked in their atacama, soundstyle rack, and with it not being 2.0 what's the point?
but there is still no point in purchasing drm-ray until media has fallen to that of current dvd prices. in the UK we pay between £5 - £9 for a new film, drm-ray's atm cost £25 - £30 less for an old blu-ray that most ppl probably already own on dvd anyway.
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22. May 2008 @ 05:27 |
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It's "affordable" for people who put brand names before sense. I spose if you have a rack full of denon kit already you will buy one of these.. because lets face it.. a ps3 will not look good in a rack full of mid band hi-fi kit.
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22. May 2008 @ 07:57 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
definitely affordable for a Denon player.
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/10499.cfm
Also, I cannot imagine paying $400 USD for an Oppo upconverting DVD player when I bought my HD-A3 for $75..the quality of upconversion is excellent.
DVDBack: I understand your point. But I guess you've realized that you're preaching to the "Funai/Magnavox crowd" here and that "affordable" is a relative term. Heck, people are still complaining that the Magnavox is still "too expensive" at $289 when barely a year ago you saw people jumping for joy when HD DVD reduced its prices from $500 to $250.
The Denon is indeed "affordable" when compared to this:
Denon 3800BDCI - MSRP $1999
or this:
Denon 2500BTCI - MSRP $999
and especially this:
Goldmund Eidos 20 - MSRP $17,000
In addition, I'm with the camp that believes that web-enabled features on discs are still a work-in-progress. There's precious few 2.0 discs at this time and those that do (like The 6th Day and Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story) have web content that fall short of compelling.
I have several HD DVD's with web-enabled features and I have the same impression with them. The servers are simply too slow to make the experience worthwhile. For me, 2.0 is overrated, and it it will take a huge improvement in quality to change my mind. Heck even some 1.1 PiP content can be annoying at times. Just give me the movie in the the best video and audio quality and I'm happy. A Final Standard Profile 1.1 player is sufficient for me and I imagine for a majority of users.
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Those of you waiting for cheaper BD-Live players should be interested:
Panasonic's UniPhier 3 to deliver cheaper BD-Live enabled Blu-ray players
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Looking forward to a future full of cheaper, slimmer BD-Live compatible Blu-ray players? Say hello to Panasonic's 3rd generation UniPhier processor, which it claims is the first single chip processor designed to handle picture-in-picture and all other necessary Profile 2.0 features. DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD, DivX 1080p, Ethernet controller, laser control, graphics engine, it's all in there. Built on a 45nm process the chip size has shrunk 50% from the previous generation, which should contribute to higher yields and lower prices. Sample shipments start in June, so while it don't expect to see it, at least initially, in the DMP-BD50, this should contribute to significant cost savings in future models. Maybe one day they'll even cost less than a similarly-featured PlayStation 3.
New Panasonic Single-Chip LSI Should Help Drive Costs Down
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Panasonic has announced that they have developed the world's first Blu-ray Disc player-specific single-chip signal processing LSI. This new chip, which not only 50% smaller, but also uses 25% less power, is compliant with BD-Live (Profile v2.0) standards. Up until now, Blu-ray Disc players required separate front end and back end LSI in addition to seven external memory chips.
The chip also uses Panasonic's updated UniPhier platform and supports all high definition video and audio formats (including lossless).
The early version of the UniPhier is the one used in the Denons and the upcoming Marantz player.
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