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article published on 22 May, 2008
BREIN, the Dutch anti-piracy agency that has started a crusade against public torrent trackers, has another site in its sights, the world's most popular torrent site, Mininova.
The organization has announced that it will be taking Mininova to court hoping that the court will force the site to filter its search results and effectively remove all unauthorized content.
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22. May 2008 @ 16:13 |
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Pray for victory for MIninova !
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Dat1boi
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22. May 2008 @ 16:28 |
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This is unfortunate, Mininova definately has been my torrent site of choice. I would hate to see them go, but sites like that walk a thin line and they could easily go the way of sites before them like sharereactor, only to be replaced by some other site that blurs the lines of legality. I hope they win and stay around, but if not, they will be replaced probably by something better.
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22. May 2008 @ 18:10 |
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Well of course they became a target... Mininova themselves painted the bullseye mark on their site by saying how many people comes to download stuff from their site... only was a matter of time...
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ikari
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22. May 2008 @ 18:38 |
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The court case could have huge repercussions around the Web if BREIN has its way. They want Mininova to censor their search results, the site does not want to. If BREIN were to win, what is stopping them from starting cases against YouTube or even Google and MSN?
It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Cases like this that are being won are the building blocks for BREIN and others to target google or YouTube.
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22. May 2008 @ 21:37 |
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The more of these sites these groups try to mow down, the more that will replace it; better or worse. 'Tis the way of the new age.
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22. May 2008 @ 22:25 |
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The more of these sites these groups try to mow down, the more that will replace it; better or worse. 'Tis the way of the new age.
They're like hydras; cut off one head and two more grow back.
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23. May 2008 @ 01:12 |
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The more of these sites these groups try to mow down, the more that will replace it; better or worse. 'Tis the way of the new age.
tell that to suprnova hehehehe
even if you close mininova, there is always gonna be some software, some webpage, some friend who bought the original and will invite you to hear it ;),
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23. May 2008 @ 03:00 |
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public trackers are still full of trojans and viruses ppl.
i guess that eztv has finally pssed off fox enough with all the HD releases to start a take down. Unless BREIN, which is the combined RIAA and MPAA members in my sig have a plan to change the law, mininova are not breaking any laws.
note to mpaa/riaa, please read, AMERICAN ANTI-CONSUMER LAWS ARE NOT UNIVERSAL YOU DO NOT OWN THE PLANET!
all you need to do is at your college or town or with friends on the net is start a darknet. you share files with ppl you know and the riaa/mpaa will never know about you. you know its good to share!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet
Originally posted by wiki:
A darknet is a private virtual network where users connect only to people they trust. In its most general meaning, a darknet can be any type of closed, private group of people communicating, but the name is most often used specifically for file sharing networks. "The darknet" can be used to refer collectively to all covert communication networks.
uTorrent & private trackers ftw, public trackers ftl.
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23. May 2008 @ 03:38 |
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We don't always get what we want.
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23. May 2008 @ 11:20 |
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what a waste of time and money,chasing torrent sites..
i dont see the point in attacking any of these sites,people just move to another major torrent site once one is closed down...
its the public that they need to target,there the ones sharing..
and what the public wants they will get.
id wouldnt use torrent if i could watch tv shows the day they are aired (not 12months later)
the only thing i get on my tv is 1970s cop shows,repeated every day
when i know torrent sites are riddled with 1000,000s of tv shows and movies,none are ever passed to the tv companys
thats why torrent is popular,were sick of waiting,
if mininova was a tv channel,id pay a monthly subscription,so i could watch something id wana watch.. not what a tv company thinks i wana watch...SORT IT OUT!!
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23. May 2008 @ 11:34 |
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public trackers are still full of trojans and viruses ppl.
True. Not near as many as can be found on P2P networks like Kazaa and Limewire though.
Like anything else, some places are better for quality aquisitions than others.
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23. May 2008 @ 12:04 |
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True. Not near as many as can be found on P2P networks like Kazaa and Limewire though.
Like anything else, some places are better for quality aquisitions than others.
torrents are the reason i switched. of course if you don't read the feedback in the comments and look at overwhelming seed to peer ratios, then you're in for some trouble.
i've always hated kazaa and all that p2p bullsh*t.
but damn, i've just started really using mininova
it's a shame to see my country going to hell, maybe it's time to move?
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23. May 2008 @ 12:46 |
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id wouldnt use torrent if i could watch tv shows the day they are aired (not 12months later)
i dont fully understand.. but if you mean that tv shows arent posted same day your wrong.. EZTV has been known to release tv shows 2 hours after first aired! =]
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23. May 2008 @ 12:47 |
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Enough with this!!!!
Forget moving your trackers, website, torrent files and links from place to place just to have them scrutinized again and again. The only course of action is for BitTorrent sites to band together and relocate to countries THAT DON'T FRAKKIN' PARTICIPATE IN THE UNITED STATES' COPYRIGHT AGENDA. I'm sayin' move the stuff PERMANENTLY to Pakistan or the Middle East, China, or Mongolia or better yet............any other country's outpost besides the U.S. in Antarctica.
Realistically........I'm thinking Pakistan is the most viable choice.
Oh............and Goodswipe...........MA BOY! How are ya'???
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23. May 2008 @ 14:06 |
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id wouldnt use torrent if i could watch tv shows the day they are aired (not 12months later)
i dont fully understand.. but if you mean that tv shows arent posted same day your wrong.. EZTV has been known to release tv shows 2 hours after first aired! =]
what i mean is i wouldnt use torrent sites if i could get whats available on EZTV through my tv.. but tv doesnt have any selection,they just pump out the same repeats over and over again..
im talking UK TV..seriously crap
torrent offers me a solution to my problems..movies and tv shows on demand.. i still even go to watch a decent movie at cinema just to get the effect,most of the stuff i download id never pay to watch anyway,most film are crap..so film companys wouldnt loose my money..
id pay well to watch a good film on an imax screen
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23. May 2008 @ 18:52 |
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Amazing, all these rescources being spent on this crap and yet ZERO rescources being spent to combat those virus posters, spammers and the like.
You know, in my day to day life the fact that Johnny downloaded the newest movie release does not affect me in the least...
But SPAM and viruses take hours out of my work week and affect my bottom line dramatically.
Who is combating this? Where's my MPAA or VirusFighterAssociationofAmerica???
Huh???
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23. May 2008 @ 19:43 |
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I guess my other complaint is that most media is corparate garbage that is the same old recycled old formula's. If I didn't downloaed the crap that I download, most of it I wouldn't even waste my time with. I would buy someone's independent CD out of the trunk of their car before I'd buy most of the crap that gets radio play. I think movie's do enough to get people in the box office and buying dvd's despite piracy, but most people could care less about music now-a-days.
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24. May 2008 @ 17:14 |
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like this would happen, if mininova gets shut down it just starts again with a differend name and place
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25. May 2008 @ 21:37 |
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If Brien and the MPAA had it's way, they'd shut down aD here.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
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26. May 2008 @ 05:14 |
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Originally posted by iluvendo:
If Brien and the MPAA had it's way, they'd shut down aD here.
Brein is the same companies pushing for the same anti-consumer restrictions citing piracy as the cause for more DRM, DMCA type legislation and the move towards licensing over ownership.
Brein is just the MPAA and RIAA combined the same as the IFPI, ect every country has a lobby paid by big media to screw us all over with the same agenda.
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27. May 2008 @ 04:03 |
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Here's an odd thing....I've bought stuff -mostly audio -hires surround stuff -yep I ACTUALLY PAID MONEY for something..now i have I've found that others would like to listen to it..trouble is they live miles away in other countries..so what do I do? spend a fortune that I dont have on several hundreds of discs..then shipping them out to everyone on the planet?...well the damn thing is this..it is known fact that after someone has had a listen to something (after all there are trial and demo bits not all of then just bits either they can be close to the real thing and....they do actually go out and buy the real thing afterwards) would you spend money on something that turned out to be junk?..they get the packaging too..I can well understand the authors wanting to get paid for their own work.that makes sense..that's if indeed they do get paid..in the text it does state that commercial stuff goes on sites like mini and others...what bothers me is that behind this crackdown might be the intention or replacing the 'freebie stuff with ONLY commercial stuff.thus once again business rules..its a know fact that there are interested parties who would prefer that the internet was used for business ONLY.if you heard the comment by the CEO of PHORM lately who seemed to be irritated by the fact that 80% of internet were 'hobbyists' he'd much prefer 99% of it business only! -business of late it seems to me has become far to intrusive in our daily lives..we cant get away from it..we're phoned up by companies..we're advertised to all the time...as far as those bloody advert popups they are all over the place..its like we cant get away from them.it slows the net down for gods sake..and so to remove some happy amateur wanting to share or swap his latest purchase has been going on for years...its what we've always done..its called 'by recommendation' we dont trust adverts but we will trust a mate...
so to clobber these sites with the intention to make them commercial only with charges etc..smacks of that concept of 'the internet' should only be there at the behest of commerce..i do have one BIG gripe.and its SCAM sites like DOWNLOAD NOVA please avoid this site!!! its just a scam...they are trying to sell you back your own stuff..and claim that you will be downloading it from germany/usa/canada etc nope you will be downloading it from your own pc to er...your own pc!.i typed in nonsense and it came back with the same nonsense in different 'flavours' (1)complete (2)tested (3)cracked with keygen (4)2008 ie the 'latest' version...check out the phoney claims on the screen..they are laughable..these are the people who should be closed down!!...charging people for their own stuff...leave mini alone and target the real villains.....
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27. May 2008 @ 04:15 |
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Here's an odd thing....I've bought stuff -mostly audio -hires surround stuff -yep I ACTUALLY PAID MONEY for something..now i have I've found that others would like to listen to it..trouble is they live miles away in other countries..so what do I do? spend a fortune that I dont have on several hundreds of discs..then shipping them out to everyone on the planet?...well the damn thing is this..it is known fact that after someone has had a listen to something (after all there are trial and demo bits not all of then just bits either they can be close to the real thing and....they do actually go out and buy the real thing afterwards) would you spend money on something that turned out to be junk?..they get the packaging too..I can well understand the authors wanting to get paid for their own work.that makes sense..that's if indeed they do get paid..in the text it does state that commercial stuff goes on sites like mini and others...what bothers me is that behind this crackdown might be the intention or replacing the 'freebie stuff with ONLY commercial stuff.thus once again business rules..its a know fact that there are interested parties who would prefer that the internet was used for business ONLY.if you heard the comment by the CEO of PHORM lately who seemed to be irritated by the fact that 80% of internet were 'hobbyists' he'd much prefer 99% of it business only! -business of late it seems to me has become far to intrusive in our daily lives..we cant get away from it..we're phoned up by companies..we're advertised to all the time...as far as those bloody advert popups they are all over the place..its like we cant get away from them.it slows the net down for gods sake..and so to remove some happy amateur wanting to share or swap his latest purchase has been going on for years...its what we've always done..its called 'by recommendation' we dont trust adverts but we will trust a mate...
so to clobber these sites with the intention to make them commercial only with charges etc..smacks of that concept of 'the internet' should only be there at the behest of commerce..i do have one BIG gripe.and its SCAM sites like DOWNLOAD NOVA please avoid this site!!! its just a scam...they are trying to sell you back your own stuff..and claim that you will be downloading it from germany/usa/canada etc nope you will be downloading it from your own pc to er...your own pc!.i typed in nonsense and it came back with the same nonsense in different 'flavours' (1)complete (2)tested (3)cracked with keygen (4)2008 ie the 'latest' version...check out the phoney claims on the screen..they are laughable..these are the people who should be closed down!!...charging people for their own stuff...leave mini alone and target the real villains.....
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27. May 2008 @ 10:42 |
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I would like to be a billionare!
I don't think BREIN has what it takes to bring that baby down. I bet he doesn't even know where the server is. (as in what country it is in) I think he is just an empty barrel.
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27. May 2008 @ 13:02 |
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Originally posted by bobchew:
Here's an odd thing....I've bought stuff -mostly audio -hires surround stuff -yep I ACTUALLY PAID MONEY for something..now i have I've found that others would like to listen to it..trouble is they live miles away in other countries..so what do I do? spend a fortune that I dont have on several hundreds of discs..then shipping them out to everyone on the planet?...well the damn thing is this..it is known fact that after someone has had a listen to something (after all there are trial and demo bits not all of then just bits either they can be close to the real thing and....they do actually go out and buy the real thing afterwards) would you spend money on something that turned out to be junk?..they get the packaging too..I can well understand the authors wanting to get paid for their own work.that makes sense..that's if indeed they do get paid..in the text it does state that commercial stuff goes on sites like mini and others...what bothers me is that behind this crackdown might be the intention or replacing the 'freebie stuff with ONLY commercial stuff.thus once again business rules..its a know fact that there are interested parties who would prefer that the internet was used for business ONLY.if you heard the comment by the CEO of PHORM lately who seemed to be irritated by the fact that 80% of internet were 'hobbyists' he'd much prefer 99% of it business only! -business of late it seems to me has become far to intrusive in our daily lives..we cant get away from it..we're phoned up by companies..we're advertised to all the time...as far as those bloody advert popups they are all over the place..its like we cant get away from them.it slows the net down for gods sake..and so to remove some happy amateur wanting to share or swap his latest purchase has been going on for years...its what we've always done..its called 'by recommendation' we dont trust adverts but we will trust a mate...
so to clobber these sites with the intention to make them commercial only with charges etc..smacks of that concept of 'the internet' should only be there at the behest of commerce..i do have one BIG gripe.and its SCAM sites like DOWNLOAD NOVA please avoid this site!!! its just a scam...they are trying to sell you back your own stuff..and claim that you will be downloading it from germany/usa/canada etc nope you will be downloading it from your own pc to er...your own pc!.i typed in nonsense and it came back with the same nonsense in different 'flavours' (1)complete (2)tested (3)cracked with keygen (4)2008 ie the 'latest' version...check out the phoney claims on the screen..they are laughable..these are the people who should be closed down!!...charging people for their own stuff...leave mini alone and target the real villains.....
Yes I agree 100%. If they could possibly get any money from this then it would be ok and left alone. Just like if the government could "legally" prosper from drug sales then they would let them be legalized. I'd hate to see mini go, but if it does it will only be a matter of weeks before something else pops up. Also, if the selection of music and tv were anything but complete trash then we wouldn't be d/l as much anyways. Also, if the programs weren't as high price AND delivered as promised, we wouldn't be d/l it anyways. Most albums only have 2 good songs, most tv shows are horrible, and movies are just as bad...there has not been a stampede of good movies since 15 years. You may get one good movie per summer and winter, or 2. Here's a suggestion to the artist, MAKE THE MEDIA YOUR SELLING FREAKING BETTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...then maybe we would not have a problem with buying it.
I heard someone say the other day that If people would stop d/l then the media that is available would be better, ohhhhh yea? well, media entertainment hasn't really been good since the 80's...what happened then? Where were the d/l'rs that diluted the strength of good media then? Bottom line is if you quit putting trash out then we might, and I say MIGHT take a chance at buying it.
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27. May 2008 @ 19:04 |
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"I think movie's do enough to get people in the box office and buying dvd's despite piracy, but most people couldn't care less about music now-a-days." Oh yes they do! from recent experiences they care a great deal..I've seen rock classics to classical music downloaded on huge scale..my conclusion is that people would sooner go look for some quality on a torrent site rather than put up with rubbish that passes for music these days...people even convert their old vinyl records and upload them..stuff which is hard to find and may well have gone out of production..and no cd version ever released..people are very precious about music...the fact that go 'torrenting' shows how choosy they are!!.
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