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Encryption chips to end PC game piracy?

article published on 25 May, 2008

According to Atari founder Nolan Bushnell, PC game piracy will be a thing of the past thanks to new stealth encryption chips embedded in your computers. "There is a stealth encryption chip called a TPM that is going on the motherboards of most of the computers that are coming out now," he added. "What that says is that in the games business we will be able to encrypt with an absolutely ... [ read the full article ]

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25. May 2008 @ 22:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I cannot understand why anyone ever says something is uncrackable. They always end up looking like fools in the end.
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25. May 2008 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it will shure reduce piracy, but end it? ppl will end up modding their mobos, i dun know flashing them? who knows piracy wil never end
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25. May 2008 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it is software, it can be cracked.
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25. May 2008 @ 22:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This might reduce piracy for awhile...But usually within a week of software releases, people create a modified .exe to work around CD checks/DRM and eventually this "TPM Chip" too.

...besides, theres nothing a little soldering can't fix :)

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25. May 2008 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by leviticus:
This might reduce piracy for awhile...But usually within a week of software releases, people create a modified .exe to work around CD checks/DRM and eventually this "TMP" Chip too.

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...besides, theres nothing a little soldering can't fix
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So much for the chip.

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25. May 2008 @ 22:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is the same thing Windows said for the OEM license scheme for Vista. Instead of 1 mass user key Microsoft/PC Vendors had chips embedded in the board that would give the PC the license information when needed. Well the Paradox group cracked that and created a driver that fooled Vista into letting you install any version of the OS.

Original Vista hacked article
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25. May 2008 @ 22:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With M$'s billions and they can't do it, what hope does Atari have ?

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
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26. May 2008 @ 00:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They're just trying to scare people straight. This is crap
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26. May 2008 @ 00:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It will get cracked on the first week, no big deal.
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26. May 2008 @ 01:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is similar to the "Dongle" from many big (or expensive) software companies.

Warez groups such as PARADOX (as PeaInAPod noted) have found ways to get around the "Dongle" requirement in software and this chip is no different.

I'd give it a few days, maybe two weeks at most.
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26. May 2008 @ 01:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And what about people with motherboards that don't have the chip? SOL I suppose. Which will lead to reduced sales and more cracking. The greedy always shoot themselves in the foot.
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26. May 2008 @ 01:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And the home brews will keep cooking...
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26. May 2008 @ 01:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by craftyzan:
And the home brews will keep cooking...

Potent stuff that home brew.

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26. May 2008 @ 03:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
These chips have already been proven ineffective, it is just another example of security by obscurity which has been proven time and again completely useless, all it does is protect for a few days/weeks tops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack
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I always see these boards at work, lots of Intel boards and server boards have this trusted platform module.
its here in the Wikipedia
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26. May 2008 @ 03:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
haha, i remember when we joked about the blockbuster chip..
and so what about this dumb mobo chip? people will just sodder the b*tch off or hell even flash it to hacked..
i like the fact that they attempt to think up new ways to foil us. i mean hell, they've got to get paid for something.
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26. May 2008 @ 05:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
who would even purchase a crippled piece of hardware, well other than blu-ray and game console fans! that are both designed to block media.

vote with your feet ppl, don't purchase anti-consumer, restricted crapware.

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And for sure they´re going to force every mobo manufacturer into this right?, it´ll be as easy as going online into a webpage with a list of mobo manufacturers that dont use the chip, and buy one, then make a soft crack, or as someone else alreadu mentioned, a hacked driver could do the trick
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26. May 2008 @ 10:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is news? TPMs have been around for a good while now, embedded in pretty much every major motherboard. This "new stealth encryption technology" is not really new, and the statement,

"There is a stealth encryption chip called a TPM that is going on the motherboards of most of the computers that are coming out now,"

is also false or misleading, as these have been present on MOBOs for about 4 or 5 years now. I remember reading about this B.S. a few years back, and TPMs have done jack diddly squat to prevent piracy of any sort. Still sad if they found real backing and support this time, as well as to actually execute a successful implementation of this anti consumer jackassery.
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26. May 2008 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
uummm.......what a way to miss the point...these guys must love spending millions on worthless DRM.....
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26. May 2008 @ 11:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Theoretically if this works it will make the older motherboard worth more I and other people already own :))!!!
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26. May 2008 @ 11:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by SuckRaven:
TPMs have done jack diddly squat to prevent piracy of any sort.
Thanks, that made my day right there!
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26. May 2008 @ 12:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Look how long have they been putting this chip in computers and what type of motherboard have the chip.

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Originally posted by mrp73:
I cannot understand why anyone ever says something is uncrackable. They always end up looking like fools in the end.
I think they just say that just to sell their product.
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26. May 2008 @ 15:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...unless they make ALL the "TPM" (stealth encryption chip)
different...then it is a matter of time before it's cracked
or someone finds a way to "mod" it (hardware or software) and
the information is posted on the net.
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