|
|
|
US HDTV owners don't want Blu-ray
|
|
The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 3 June, 2008
According to an NPD report, only 9 percent of US HDTV owners plan to buy a Blu-ray disc player in the next six months.
The survey by NPD was carried out in the middle of March, after Blu-ray killed off the rival HD DVD format. Although sentiments may have changed in the months since the survey was taken, I would assume the numbers are still pretty accurate, considering reports of Blu-ray ... [ read the full article ]
Please read the original article before posting your comments.
|
|
nopcbs
Junior Member
|
9. June 2008 @ 22:25 |
Link to this message
|
Wow!
Blu Ray/HD-DVD are simply not as big an improvement over up-converted DVD as the latter was over VHS. You need to go look at some VHS tapes on your "big" screen (over 26") set if you think that is true. And I don't mean from 20 feet away. It just is not the case and it's not just lines of resolution. The HD formats are a definite and significant improvement with the right software vs. up-converted DVD, but not overwhelming on normal sized screens (50" and smaller)like DVD was vs. VHS.
Quote:
Wow to be ignorant and pride yourself on it. BD-HD technology is just as much better then DVD's as VHS was to DVD, upconverting is just a joke making a high low res picture higher doesn't make it better it just converts it higher and can make it worst in some cases.
Super Res will also be dead and not fly. Why would I spend a lot of monies for a better upconversion method (algorithms) this isn't true HD and definitely isn't in the same ball park as BD, it is just a better way to upconvert and you need special gear to achieve it. Again Toshiba is falling well below the mark as they did with HD-DVD's which has cost them big. I guess Toshiba is going for broke now.
Here is a good article on Super Resolution:
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/05/09/toshiba_cell_strategy/
Now you can buck change that is you prerogative but that doesn't change facts no matter what your bias is, like hating Sony so bad you won't buy a good product from them. I hate Sony too but their TV's are some of the best so I consider buying them and BD is in that same light.
Originally posted by ematrix:
First of all, any kind of storage media isn't infallible, yet chip memories and magnetic storage media withstands a higher resilience than optical discs, certanly users don't worry about typical disc defects such as scratches and fingerprints... even movie studios store films digital masters on HDDs, since currently it's the most reliable way to preserve them.
Even the hard coating on BD discs, granted is more resistant than DVD discs, yet isn't infallible; also the inner layer on optical discs could oxidate if it wasn't sealed properly, regardless if you rarely reproduce the discs, and you have taken care of them to prevent exposure to dust, sunlight, heat, etc.
The fact is that optical discs with more than 50GB storage capable it's still under development, and it won't be a reality anytime soon. But HDD with 1TB or greater with long term reliable storage capability are availible today, as well as Flash drives with 32GB storage capability. Granted that it's pricy to get them, but worth the expense.
Here we go again that pride thing with a misguided lack of knowledge. Disk arrays provide very large storage capability but that doesn?t make it more reliable it just makes it larger. They still have to do a very slow and awkward tape backup(s) or have redundant arrays off site to protect this storage using RAID technology. They could use an array of optical drives and some do. Once you store to an optical you can put it away and be assured it will remain reliable recovery, that?s is totally not true with HDD?s or MAG tapes, unless of course you are a real moron that doesn?t know how to handle and take care of the media like putting it in the Sun or pinching the disc(s) or scratching the layer(s) buy laying it on the floor and sliding it around like a wake board. If stupidity is your argument give it up but again that doesn?t change the facts. Oh and buy the way I think it was Magnavox demo?d a 1TB BD drive in Australia a year ago so they aren?t very far away.
The bottom line is that BD will be the new format as DVD?s were in their childhood Super-Res isn?t going to change that. DVD?s will be around for some time to come too. So arguing who sold more by a date or what prices were doesn?t really matter at all. You have a choice keep up with technology or being happy with the old and there is nothing wrong with still enjoying DVD?s. People when they see how much nicer HD is are going to side with HD that is happening now and as the prices drop there will be even more of an insurgence to that market.
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
1 product review
|
9. June 2008 @ 22:38 |
Link to this message
|
No matter what we say here,which view point we take, it is the consuming public that decides which venue will succeed.As far as I can tell, the dust has not settled yet, and I have no clear vision of which way we are headed, only that SD DVD is here to stay for awhile.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition
 |
|
nhl2005
Inactive
|
10. June 2008 @ 10:25 |
Link to this message
|
Is someone still bitter that HDDVD died?
Look at the article there are only 9% of homes with HDTV's. The whole HDTV thing is still in its infancy. Why would people buy bluray if they don't even have a HDTV. Also the selection of movies on blueray is not that extensive yet. It will take time as more people get HDTV's. Why would you want an upscaling DVD player for your new HDTV. Thats like buying a ferrari and taking the engine out and putting a 1969 volkswagon engine in as a replacement.
|
Senior Member
|
10. June 2008 @ 21:40 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by nhl2005:
Why would you want an upscaling DVD player for your new HDTV. Thats like buying a ferrari and taking the engine out and putting a 1969 volkswagon engine in as a replacement.
Because ematrix & nopcbs says it's the best and they really know what they are talking about. In fact why even buy HDTV's maybe someone like Toshiba will make a upscale unit to convert my SDTV to HD. LOL I'm waiting for HD movies on flash drives too wouldn't that be the bomb, $100 per movie I'll sign up for that and they will last forever. HeHeHe....
By the way it was a Porsche 914 that had the Volkswagon engine in it not a Ferrari, but how stupid that was too. :)
|
Senior Member
|
11. June 2008 @ 23:41 |
Link to this message
|
|
until br players come to $100 or less, no thanks
|
|
kokuryu
Newbie
|
17. June 2008 @ 20:56 |
Link to this message
|
HD DVD is tons better than BluRay any day. Cheap players, inexpensive discs, and many came as both HD and standard DVD discs in the same package. Upconverted video is nearly the same quality. I saw zero reason for BluRay to "win" anything. In my own seeing, BluRay LOST the format war - BluRay was only better at giving away BD discs. On the other hand, MILLIONS of HD discs were being purchased. Luckily some few new HD titles are still being made, and tons are still available for purchase, so I can build up a nice HD DVD selection. I hope that the people will opt for a revolution and show that BluRay is not wanted, and instead we want HD DVD. Write to all the movie studios asking for HD DVD versions of the movies you like! Tell them you are trying to buy it in HD DVD but can only find BluRay versions - and you DONT WANT BluRay, you want HD DVD. Then the revolution will happen for real!
|
|
nopcbs
Junior Member
|
17. June 2008 @ 21:15 |
Link to this message
|
Nopcbs does not say that up-converted DVD is better than HD-DVD or Blu Ray, at their best. What I do say (and it is true) is the up-converted DVD is plenty good enough for the vast majority of people (surveys support this as do buying patterns), that a lot of old movie re-issues in HD format are barely, if at all, better than up-converted DVD (been there, done that) and, frankly, Blu Ray players and Blu Ray movies are over-priced for what you get...especially the players. And that $200 Wal-Mart Blu Ray player, well that's a $300 player that Wal-Mart will give you a $100 Wal-Mart gift card for if you buy it, as a bribe. Sell it for $200 out-right and then maybe we are starting to get real on pricing. (But a Magnavox??? How long will that last?) I took the same bribe from Sony on a PS3 and got it for $300 and I still feel un-clean for having done it.
As for the Toshiba technology, we will see what that is about come fall. And the marketplace will decide, unlike the case with Blu Ray vs. HD DVD where studio bribery decided the issue to the sorrow of the buying public.
- nopcbs
Quote:
Originally posted by nhl2005:
Why would you want an upscaling DVD player for your new HDTV. Thats like buying a ferrari and taking the engine out and putting a 1969 volkswagon engine in as a replacement.
Because ematrix & nopcbs says it's the best and they really know what they are talking about. In fact why even buy HDTV's maybe someone like Toshiba will make a upscale unit to convert my SDTV to HD. LOL I'm waiting for HD movies on flash drives too wouldn't that be the bomb, $100 per movie I'll sign up for that and they will last forever. HeHeHe....
By the way it was a Porsche 914 that had the Volkswagon engine in it not a Ferrari, but how stupid that was too. :)
|
|
Mez
AfterDawn Addict
|
18. June 2008 @ 08:27 |
Link to this message
|
nhl2005, correction, only 9% of the households that have HDTV will buy Blue Ray. If only 9% of the US households had HDTV there would be trouble. Regular broadcasting goes away early next year.
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
juankerr
Member
|
18. June 2008 @ 17:15 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by kokuryu:
you DONT WANT BluRay, you want HD DVD. Then the revolution will happen for real!
|
|
