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That video you're watching just might break the internet
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article published on 18 June, 2008
Do you use your broadband internet connection for video? If so you might partly responsible for "breaking" the internet within the next few years according to more than half of the 372 telecommunications professionals surveyed by Tellabs and research firm IDC. More than 10% think it will happen within the next 2 years.
So what's the solution? It seems that nearly half of those surveyed ... [ read the full article ]
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19. June 2008 @ 17:50 |
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Originally posted by mspurloc:
A. I've been saying this for five years. Glad somebody is finally realizing it.
B. The ISPs are lazy, cheap and greedy. It's their fault. Don't charge us more, just CREATE MORE BANDWIDTH! This moronic idea that charging people more for a resource they'll keep using anyway is the same stupid crock you get from the drooling cretins that argue for higher gas taxes. They're all either idiots who don't think, or they're just trying to cash in.
and in order to do that they have to spend millions to build the infrastructure and in some cases millions more to rebuild it.
anyway you look at it they are going to have to start charging more money for bandwidth.
No.
There's a world of dark fiber and bandwidth out there.
Not reinvesting their ill-gotten gains in infrastructure is just their way of extorting more money from the people who AREN'T GETTING WHAT THEY PAID FOR as it is.
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19. June 2008 @ 18:14 |
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I agree with everyone that says don't blame the consumer. I also understand it will cost a** loads of cash to update the current infrastructure. But does anyone know where that cash is going now! To their overpaid execs sitting on their respective a**es doing as little as possible in a day. They could really care less what Joe consumer pays for internet access.
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19. June 2008 @ 18:44 |
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just like gas cost allmost $5.00 for gallon of gas and everything in usa costing more now the isps trying find away get peiece of the action to bad our goverment in usa said that Network neutrality not needed they are very wrong it's sure is because soon we will be paying for speed and bandwidth and that not all how much is really enough money for us to pay $50 $100 $1000 per month for internet. if they do put caps they should be made give us a fair amount like 250 gigs+ per month not no silly 40gig cap like time warner wants do. anyway if the isps never fix the backbone of the internet it going crash not our faults it's billions dollar isps fault not invastion the money where it was needed. what are they going do when everyone wants High Definition videos not Standard-definition for youtube etc that really going push there limits in few years.
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19. June 2008 @ 19:02 |
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isp's should stop selling bandwidth that they hav'nt got and the word "upto" should be banned
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19. June 2008 @ 19:30 |
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Originally posted by simpsim1:
Speaking as a UK user, we're being completely conned by our ISPs. The ISPs have absolutely no interest in what quality of service we get, just as long as they can keep the new 12 month contracts coming in (24 months in some cases) It's all about them making money by squeezing as many users into our already overcrowded networks and then making people feel guilty about using the bandwidth they paid for so that the networks don't go into complete meltdown.
So the next time your ISP gives you a load of bull***t saying that it's your fault, remember all the advertising about "Unlimited" bandwidth services that they used to suck you in.
Want somebody else to blame? All the UK's telecommunications network is owned and run (With the exception of Hull) by BT. They have invested none very little of their vast profits into making any major improvements in our telecoms infrastructure, so it's no wonder we're at the situation we are at now. Note also, that BT themselves are pushing Video-on-demand over the 'net.
Hmmmm....what about the cable companies an their networks covering 65% of the country ?
What the UK needs is a completely new FTTx network.....invested in like the cable companies did in the late 90's.
With the likes of BBC iplayer, youtube and facebook (and IPTV on the horizon), etc expanding at an alarming rate ....it will be no time at all before the infrastructure overloads....and Brosdbsnd will become the equivalent of DialUp.
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19. June 2008 @ 20:37 |
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Originally posted by beanos66:
isp's should stop selling bandwidth that they haven't got and the word "upto" should be banned
Quite right, its false advertising or purposefully misleading anyway.
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19. June 2008 @ 22:42 |
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Originally posted by beanos66:
isp's should stop selling bandwidth that they haven't got and the word "upto" should be banned
Quite right, its false advertising or purposefully misleading anyway.
well they have it and they don't have it, they are trying to backup on extra services they should have never put out to start with.
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20. June 2008 @ 02:59 |
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I recently upgraded to the most expensive, fastest non-commercial Comcast service (15 mbit down/2 mbit up) available in my area and I pay roughly $110/month for my net + TV. Roughly $65 of that is my net, and the rest is my digital cable. In a few months, it'll go to around $125/mo., when my "introductory package" expires.
Not only do I pay them all this loot, when they offered me the faster account I immediately upgraded. Literally within moments of seeing the email they sent me, I was on the phone to order the new service.
I'd say I'm a damn valuable customer. MOST companies, when faced with a similar situation, will treat you like Caesar returning home to Rome in triumph, and wisely so, no?
So do I get pleasant treatment? Well, the nice lady who took my order for the new account was all right, but the asshat WHO CALLED ME UP IN TWO MONTHS KVETCHING ABOUT BANDWIDTH USAGE -- *ahem* sorry, but you see my point? How much was used? Circa 450 GB.
"Oh, *gasp*, he's a py-rate, lynch him!"
Wrong.
I watch streamed video off the net and fansubbed anime (which, admittedly, is pretty "grey-area" in copyrights but, ehh... That's it. Seems like a lot, until you realize that ONE HD movie stream is gonna run 4-5 GB (720p) to 8+ GB (1080p).
If these idiots keep it up I'll just get pokey ol' ADSL and blissfully ignore 'em all. And save about $100/mo. -.-' It's not like I watch much TV anyway. Oo, sounds like a big win for Comcast, huh?
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20. June 2008 @ 12:56 |
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Hmm... metering your service would kill off cable tv alternatives such as YouTube and Xbox Live Marketplace... even DirecTV's on demand service, which all need that precious bandwidth... is it a conspiracy to thwart their competition and force consumers to rely on cable tv service?
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vudoo
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9. July 2008 @ 20:00 |
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Don't believe the hype folks do the math. Cable TV companies also sell Internet. Many customers opt out of subscribing to HBO, CINEMAX, and PPV because they can Download all they want from Graboid for $25/Mo. So they are making up all this crap about breaking the Internet. Get real if it messes up their equipment they need to upgrade. They just don't like the fact that Cable TV customers are not willing to pay more for less with Cable TV. Not to mention many cable operators don't transmit HDTV. Well on Graboid you get all the HD you want.
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by mspurloc:
A. I've been saying this for five years. Glad somebody is finally realizing it.
B. The ISPs are lazy, cheap and greedy. It's their fault. Don't charge us more, just CREATE MORE BANDWIDTH! This moronic idea that charging people more for a resource they'll keep using anyway is the same stupid crock you get from the drooling cretins that argue for higher gas taxes. They're all either idiots who don't think, or they're just trying to cash in.
and in order to do that they have to spend millions to build the infrastructure and in some cases millions more to rebuild it.
anyway you look at it they are going to have to start charging more money for bandwidth.
We already gave them millions.
The infrastructure is there.
They're sitting on acres of dark fiber.
They've already charged us for it.
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18. July 2008 @ 01:49 |
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Originally posted by mspurloc:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by mspurloc:
A. I've been saying this for five years. Glad somebody is finally realizing it.
B. The ISPs are lazy, cheap and greedy. It's their fault. Don't charge us more, just CREATE MORE BANDWIDTH! This moronic idea that charging people more for a resource they'll keep using anyway is the same stupid crock you get from the drooling cretins that argue for higher gas taxes. They're all either idiots who don't think, or they're just trying to cash in.
and in order to do that they have to spend millions to build the infrastructure and in some cases millions more to rebuild it.
anyway you look at it they are going to have to start charging more money for bandwidth.
We already gave them millions.
The infrastructure is there.
They're sitting on acres of dark fiber.
They've already charged us for it.
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That video you're watching just might break the internet
article published on 18 June, 2008
Do you use your broadband internet connection for video? If so you might partly responsible for "breaking" the internet within the next few years according to more than half of the 372 telecommunications professionals surveyed by Tellabs and research firm IDC. More than 10% think it will happen within the next 2 years. So what's the solution? It seems that nearly half of those surveyed ... [ read the full article ]
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mspurloc
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_ 19. June 2008 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message Report an offensive post Send private message to this user
Quote:
Originally posted by mspurloc: A. I've been saying this for five years. Glad somebody is finally realizing it.
B. The ISPs are lazy, cheap and greedy. It's their fault. Don't charge us more, just CREATE MORE BANDWIDTH! This moronic idea that charging people more for a resource they'll keep using anyway is the same stupid crock you get from the drooling cretins that argue for higher gas taxes. They're all either idiots who don't think, or they're just trying to cash in.
and in order to do that they have to spend millions to build the infrastructure and in some cases millions more to rebuild it.
anyway you look at it they are going to have to start charging more money for bandwidth.
No.
There's a world of dark fiber and bandwidth out there.
Not reinvesting their ill-gotten gains in infrastructure is just their way of extorting more money from the people who AREN'T GETTING WHAT THEY PAID FOR as it is.
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defgod
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_ 19. June 2008 @ 15:14 _ Link to this message Report an offensive post Send private message to this user
I agree with everyone that says don't blame the consumer. I also understand it will cost a** loads of cash to update the current infrastructure. But does anyone know where that cash is going now! To their overpaid execs sitting on their respective a**es doing as little as possible in a day. They could really care less what Joe consumer pays for internet access.
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david89
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just like gas cost allmost $5.00 for gallon of gas and everything in usa costing more now the isps trying find away get peiece of the action to bad our goverment in usa said that Network neutrality not needed they are very wrong it's sure is because soon we will be paying for speed and bandwidth and that not all how much is really enough money for us to pay $50 $100 $1000 per month for internet. if they do put caps they should be made give us a fair amount like 250 gigs+ per month not no silly 40gig cap like time warner wants do. anyway if the isps never fix the backbone of the internet it going crash not our faults it's billions dollar isps fault not invastion the money where it was needed. what are they going do when everyone wants High Definition videos not Standard-definition for youtube etc that really going push there limits in few years.
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beanos66
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_ 19. June 2008 @ 16:02 _ Link to this message Report an offensive post Send private message to this user
isp's should stop selling bandwidth that they hav'nt got and the word "upto" should be banned
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richpuke
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_ 19. June 2008 @ 16:30 _ Link to this message Report an offensive post Send private message to this user
Originally posted by simpsim1: Speaking as a UK user, we're being completely conned by our ISPs. The ISPs have absolutely no interest in what quality of service we get, just as long as they can keep the new 12 month contracts coming in (24 months in some cases) It's all about them making money by squeezing as many users into our already overcrowded networks and then making people feel guilty about using the bandwidth they paid for so that the networks don't go into complete meltdown.
So the next time your ISP gives you a load of bull***t saying that it's your fault, remember all the advertising about "Unlimited" bandwidth services that they used to suck you in.
Want somebody else to blame? All the UK's telecommunications network is owned and run (With the exception of Hull) by BT. They have invested none very little of their vast profits into making any major improvements in our telecoms infrastructure, so it's no wonder we're at the situation we are at now. Note also, that BT themselves are pushing Video-on-demand over the 'net.
Hmmmm....what about the cable companies an their networks covering 65% of the country ?
What the UK needs is a completely new FTTx network.....invested in like the cable companies did in the late 90's.
With the likes of BBC iplayer, youtube and facebook (and IPTV on the horizon), etc expanding at an alarming rate ....it will be no time at all before the infrastructure overloads....and Brosdbsnd will become the equivalent of DialUp.
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canuckerz
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_ 19. June 2008 @ 17:37 _ Link to this message Report an offensive post Send private message to this user
Originally posted by beanos66: isp's should stop selling bandwidth that they haven't got and the word "upto" should be banned
Quite right, its false advertising or purposefully misleading anyway.
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ZippyDSM
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_ 19. June 2008 @ 19:42 _ Link to this message Edit message
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Originally posted by beanos66: isp's should stop selling bandwidth that they haven't got and the word "upto" should be banned
Quite right, its false advertising or purposefully misleading anyway.
well they have it and they don't have it, they are trying to backup on extra services they should have never put out to start with.
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Bozobub
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_ 19. June 2008 @ 23:59 _ Link to this message Report an offensive post Send private message to this user
I recently upgraded to the most expensive, fastest non-commercial Comcast service (15 mbit down/2 mbit up) available in my area and I pay roughly $110/month for my net + TV. Roughly $65 of that is my net, and the rest is my digital cable. In a few months, it'll go to around $125/mo., when my "introductory package" expires.
Not only do I pay them all this loot, when they offered me the faster account I immediately upgraded. Literally within moments of seeing the email they sent me, I was on the phone to order the new service.
I'd say I'm a damn valuable customer. MOST companies, when faced with a similar situation, will treat you like Caesar returning home to Rome in triumph, and wisely so, no?
So do I get pleasant treatment? Well, the nice lady who took my order for the new account was all right, but the asshat WHO CALLED ME UP IN TWO MONTHS KVETCHING ABOUT BANDWIDTH USAGE -- *ahem* sorry, but you see my point? How much was used? Circa 450 GB.
"Oh, *gasp*, he's a py-rate, lynch him!"
Wrong.
I watch streamed video off the net and fansubbed anime (which, admittedly, is pretty "grey-area" in copyrights but, ehh... That's it. Seems like a lot, until you realize that ONE HD movie stream is gonna run 4-5 GB (720p) to 8+ GB (1080p).
If these idiots keep it up I'll just get pokey ol' ADSL and blissfully ignore 'em all. And save about $100/mo. -.-' It's not like I watch much TV anyway. Oo, sounds like a big win for Comcast, huh?
[ + quote]This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. June 2008 @ 00:00
SProdigy
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_ 20. June 2008 @ 09:56 _ Link to this message Report an offensive post Send private message to this user
Hmm... metering your service would kill off cable tv alternatives such as YouTube and Xbox Live Marketplace... even DirecTV's on demand service, which all need that precious bandwidth... is it a conspiracy to thwart their competition and force consumers to rely on cable tv service?
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vudoo
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_ 9. July 2008 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message Report an offensive post Send private message to this user
Don't believe the hype folks do the math. Cable TV companies also sell Internet. Many customers opt out of subscribing to HBO, CINEMAX, and PPV because they can Download all they want from Graboid for $25/Mo. So they are making up all this crap about breaking the Internet. Get real if it messes up their equipment they need to upgrade. They just don't like the fact that Cable TV customers are not willing to pay more for less with Cable TV. Not to mention many cable operators don't transmit HDTV. Well on Graboid you get all the HD you want.
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and the point deary millions wont cover it *lick* =^^=
you are looking at 5-10M a city 2-3 times that for a large city that covers house to house or at least block to block.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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