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Kid rock tells fans Download it illegally - I don't care
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article published on 19 June, 2008
Kid Rock is part of an exclusive club whose only other members are The Beatles, Garth Brooks, and AC/DC. What do thse artists have in common? They're major artists whose music isn't sold on iTunes. In Kid Rock's case there is actually one album being sold by the online music giant, but that's just because he doesn't own the rights to it.
So why doesn't he want to sell his music on iTunes? ... [ read the full article ]
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19. June 2008 @ 01:13 |
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although i might listen to lil wayne before kid rock, i'm a fan of neither.
this is still a great post to have on the feed at the same time as the lil wayne article.
kid rock gets more points with me for his statements than he ever has.
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19. June 2008 @ 01:43 |
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yeah I'm no Kid rock fan but its the right thing for him to do.
Bands make there money touring/playing there ass off live anyway. not with album sales in most cases
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19. June 2008 @ 01:53 |
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for me hes in the same class as enem I can stand 2 or 3 of his songs the rest or just dumb and sluttly(emo and whiny in enmes case :P) LOL
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19. June 2008 @ 02:16 |
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"you've been stealing from the artists for years. Now you want me to stand up for you?"
Don't care for him or his music, but I fully agree.
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19. June 2008 @ 03:04 |
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In a recent interview with the BBC he talked about his reaction to Atlantic Records executives asking him to take a stand against file sharing. "Wait a second," he said, "you've been stealing from the artists for years. Now you want me to stand up for you?"
Calls the hypocrites as he sees them !! Way to go Kid Rock !!!
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19. June 2008 @ 03:45 |
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That's the music industry.
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19. June 2008 @ 04:40 |
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But, but, but, its the pirates that are stealing all the monies we need to pay sony to put more DRM onto media and give more money to us, the riaa to track and prosecute ppl for monies, and when we win the cases we will pay the lawyers ........ i mean artists, maybe if we can force everyone to repurchase media over and over again we can maybe give the artists 1% of the 3rd sale.
respect to Kid Rock but this will not achieve anything as the real head liners that are all controlled by the RIAA and variants in each country controlled by the same companies. so next week there will be a popular artist from sony, emi, warner and universal all stating that piracy is bad.
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19. June 2008 @ 08:21 |
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There are a few Kid Rock songs i'm ok with. In general i'm certainly not a fan, but i definately stand behind him here.
Props to you Mr. Rock!
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19. June 2008 @ 11:11 |
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Go Kid Rock. He's got a handful of really good songs but I'm not a huge fan either...............but GO KID ROCK!!! The days of being "Managed" are over. Those artists that buy into this crap LIKE METALLICA (whom I used to love and now just frakkin' hate)............SELLOUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are putzes.
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19. June 2008 @ 11:13 |
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Originally posted by lynchGOP:
Go Kid Rock. He's got a handful of really good songs but I'm not a huge fan either...............but GO KID ROCK!!! The days of being "Managed" are over. Those artists that buy into this crap LIKE METALLICA (whom I used to love and now just frakkin' hate)............SELLOUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are putzes.
last I checked it was just the head singer/lead that went on a anti MP3 tizzy the rest of the banded didn't give a flip.
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19. June 2008 @ 12:00 |
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not a fan of KID ROCK but go for it m8
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19. June 2008 @ 13:09 |
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Solution: Download his songs illegally, then send him a check made out to him. That way, he gets 100% of it and no one else can touch it.
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19. June 2008 @ 16:37 |
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Kid Rock leading the way, I would like to see more artists take a stand like that against the greed of the record companies and the RIAA.
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19. June 2008 @ 16:52 |
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Kid Rock was married to Pamela Anderson and toured with a midget, how much cooler can he get?
/KID ROCK FTW!
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19. June 2008 @ 17:29 |
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Why couldn't an artist do this:
1) Get his/her own website EX: www.ilovekidrockverymuch.com
2) Make his/her own music and put it up for download using a paypal link (or something equivalent) for US .50 cents a track.
No middle men, almost pure profit. I think it would work for well known artist. Forget iTunes, download your tracks from the artist directly.
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19. June 2008 @ 18:12 |
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Been there, Done that
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19. June 2008 @ 19:04 |
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Originally posted by ugc:
Why couldn't an artist do this:
1) Get his/her own website EX: www.ilovekidrockverymuch.com
2) Make his/her own music and put it up for download using a paypal link (or something equivalent) for US .50 cents a track.
No middle men, almost pure profit. I think it would work for well known artist. Forget iTunes, download your tracks from the artist directly.
Example: Radiohead (recently)
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19. June 2008 @ 19:20 |
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In his words, "iTunes takes the money, the record company takes the money, and they don't give it to the artists"...
... he's making a statement because he can afford to. He's not hurting for sales, and certainly isn't running low on money.
Gee, I wonder where his money came from??? If he didn't have a deal with Atlantic Records, he'd still be "rocking the turntables" in basement somewhere. Atlantic made him rich and famous!
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19. June 2008 @ 19:44 |
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Originally posted by ugc:
Why couldn't an artist do this:
1) Get his/her own website EX: www.ilovekidrockverymuch.com
2) Make his/her own music and put it up for download using a paypal link (or something equivalent) for US .50 cents a track.
No middle men, almost pure profit. I think it would work for well known artist. Forget iTunes, download your tracks from the artist directly.
Sure, an artist can do that!
But, NOT if he/she's signed an agreement with a record company! The terms and conditions say that the artist cannot distibute his/her own music until the contract is fulfilled. Usually that means a certain number of albums and/or a certain number of years. (I think it's usually 7 albums, or 7 years.... I think there's a "7" somewhere...)
So once Kid Rock fulfills his contract, he can do whatever he wants. Most successful artists choose to negotiate a new, better, contract. Overall, most artists don't last long enough for a 2nd contract... The record companies loose money on most acts and they are not offered a 2nd contact.
P.S.
A lot of artists are already doing what you suggest. For example, Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails are distributing online free or for a donation. And, you could probably fill-up an iPod with legally free music from non-famous unsigned artists. (If the artist is giving away free music, they have to write and perform their own music... otherwise the songwriter has to be paid.)
A lot of independent/unsigned acts sell CDs at their concerts and online.
The Eagles, AC/DC, and a few others have bypassed the middleman and made a distribution deal with Wal Mart.
Madonna signed a record deal with a concert promotion company.
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19. June 2008 @ 21:29 |
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Originally posted by lynchGOP:
Go Kid Rock. He's got a handful of really good songs but I'm not a huge fan either...............but GO KID ROCK!!! The days of being "Managed" are over. Those artists that buy into this crap LIKE METALLICA (whom I used to love and now just frakkin' hate)............SELLOUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are putzes.
last I checked it was just the head singer/lead that went on a anti MP3 tizzy the rest of the banded didn't give a flip.
i thought it was the whole band metallica that flipped out over file sharing; napster in particular.
even if it was just one member, it wasn't the singer but the drummer, lars ulrich.
i'll never forget reading transcripts from one of those press conferences they held where he spoke against file sharing.
he pretty much concluded by condensing his point into the statement "it's our music."
a heckler, and probably fan, then screamed out "f&#k you lars! it's our music too!"
that was epic, for me.
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19. June 2008 @ 21:33 |
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That's how u do it. I bet Itunes and MPAA are furious with that comment...........lol..................lol...................:)
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19. June 2008 @ 22:44 |
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gotta love this guy, finally someone who understands.
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19. June 2008 @ 23:08 |
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Kid rock and Lil wayne. I am listening to a bootleg little wayne album (the latest) at the moment and I have lots of kid rock songs on my computer. You know what? Respect to Kid rock, he is a great guy for this, doesn't matter if you like his music or not at least he isn't some filthy money greedy whore.
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20. June 2008 @ 01:03 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
for me hes in the same class as enem I can stand 2 or 3 of his songs the rest or just dumb and sluttly(emo and whiny in enmes case :P) LOL
this has to be the most grammatically incorrect couple of sentences ive ever read
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20. June 2008 @ 08:22 |
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
Kid Rock was married to Pamela Anderson and toured with a midget, how much cooler can he get?
Lol. Good point Swipe.
It's no question he's not hurting for money, so he can afford to be non-chalant about it.
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Gee, I wonder where his money came from??? If he didn't have a deal with Atlantic Records, he'd still be "rocking the turntables" in basement somewhere. Atlantic made him rich and famous!
Nearly endless touring made him rich and famous. Not Atlantic, they're just the one's that happened to sign him.
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