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HD DVD coming back from the dead in China?
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article published on 3 July, 2008
On June 11 the DVD Forum's Steering Committee met for the second time this year. Their biannual meetings usually result in boring discussions about bureaucratic matters, but not so this time around. That's not entirely surprising considering it's the first meeting with an agenda set entirely after HD DVD's demise at the hands of Blu-ray earlier this year.
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3. July 2008 @ 12:31 |
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If China wants HD-DVD, be my guest. I wouldn't care even if the US started to use HD DVDs again. The 2 formats have no difference and I have both players.
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3. July 2008 @ 12:36 |
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huh?? the console war was never over.....now the majority of the worlds population is going to be using HD-DVD...muhawawawa!!!!!!
but seriously.....
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3. July 2008 @ 12:59 |
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HDVD is a good format with lil difrance to BR but price.
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3. July 2008 @ 13:59 |
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Toshiba is already rumored to be targetting Blu-ray with better upscaling DVD players. The adoption at this most recent meeting of the DVD Download DL logo could also be a sign that HD DVD technology is going to be re-used in the older format.
I don't see why anyone would even bring up a upgrade over upscale DVD players in the same breath as HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.If Toshiba actually though this player was on the same level as Blu-Ray why didn't they push HD-DVD to the side.....It wasn't so i wish this BS comparing stop you can't improve that much if your source isn't improved either.
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3. July 2008 @ 14:02 |
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Someone posted that the 360 HD-DVD player was being sold for $5 now, so I went to check the movie in case I made a buy, considering a "dead" format should be on the cheap right?
Well over at Amazon, some titles are around $12, but the "blockbuster" type movies, such as Mission Impossible, are still in the $20 range, which is still more than DVD and too expensive for a dead format.
Granted, there are some deals and it's HD, but I could still own and upconvert some of these in SD-DVD for $5, maybe even less.
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3. July 2008 @ 14:03 |
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Interesting... I wonder what if Toshiba will try to re-launch HD DVD worldwide if it does real well in China, they probably won't try to re-launch it but you never know I guess.
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3. July 2008 @ 14:30 |
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I would love to see egg on Sony's face as Toshiba wins the game!
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3. July 2008 @ 17:37 |
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Movie studios aren't going to go back and fourth exclusively supporting formats. That's why this is going to stay in China; none of the major North American studios are going to be on-board.
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3. July 2008 @ 18:01 |
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
Someone posted that the 360 HD-DVD player was being sold for $5 now, so I went to check the movie in case I made a buy, considering a "dead" format should be on the cheap right?
Well over at Amazon, some titles are around $12, but the "blockbuster" type movies, such as Mission Impossible, are still in the $20 range, which is still more than DVD and too expensive for a dead format.
Granted, there are some deals and it's HD, but I could still own and upconvert some of these in SD-DVD for $5, maybe even less.
I notice the same thing also @ wal-mart they had American Gangster for 25 bucks i wonder why the prices are still high on some of the HD-DVD titles?
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3. July 2008 @ 18:29 |
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This is a complete and utter FAILURE.
That's why it's only in China.
Right now, it's not about 'HD DVD has better quality than Blu Ray' or any of that nonsense.
It's about the studios.
Do any of you honestly think that Universal, Warner Bros, Paramount & New Line (Just to name a few) is going to crawl back to HD DVD when they are already in production with blu ray?
HIGHLY doubt it, they would just be throwing away time and money, and i'm sure they don't want that especially with having to deal with piracy.
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3. July 2008 @ 19:01 |
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What ever happened to "Can't we all just get along ?"
Must it always be a format war ?
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3. July 2008 @ 19:46 |
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True its not about who's better, let us put differences aside. so no studio support at least not major, so whats to stop this format from being supported in a non-studio type way, a rewritable storage solution device for pc's, perhaps a way for Xbox360 to stay in the game,
example vinyl records came in 3 different types 33RPM 45RPM and (96RPM records arn't vinyl but still used the same technology)
Also SVCD & VCD were a Asian region Format only but it had uses over in America.
argue all you want it has its uses.
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3. July 2008 @ 20:15 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
True its not about who's better, let us put differences aside. so no studio support at least not major, so whats to stop this format from being supported in a non-studio type way, a rewritable storage solution device for pc's, perhaps a way for Xbox360 to stay in the game,
example vinyl records came in 3 different types 33RPM 45RPM and (96RPM records arn't vinyl but still used the same technology)
Also SVCD & VCD were a Asian region Format only but it had uses over in America.
argue all you want it has its uses.
It just causes much more confusion for the uneducated consumer. Even the HD-DVD vs. Blu Ray war wasn't easy to grasp for some people.
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3. July 2008 @ 22:31 |
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Even the HD-DVD vs. Blu Ray war wasn't easy to grasp for some people.
A lot of that comes from poorly trained store clerks that can't adequately explain the benefits of Hi Def to the consumer.
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3. July 2008 @ 22:45 |
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Even the HD-DVD vs. Blu Ray war wasn't easy to grasp for some people.
A lot of that comes from poorly trained store clerks that can't adequately explain the benefits of Hi Def to the consumer.
you know i like to test store's like that. ill ask them whats the difference. you would be surprised how many a store clerk has told me that blue-ray has a better picture and sound.
i went to wal-mart and i ask this one fellow,whats the difference between the two he goes of to say, there ain't no significant difference.
its sad when i store clerk from best-buy or other high tech gadget place will lie to you to get the most expensive thing out the door.
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4. July 2008 @ 00:07 |
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A perfect example of that is when I asked for the best most portable Digital camera and he showed me one of these Sony ones for $300 or something with only some 3x digital zoom. It was pretty small though. He kept telling me how it was the best camera ever made. I ended up getting another Sony, because of the damn helper there and I personally hate it now. Its a 7.2MP camera with a 1.5 inch LCD. Spend 200+ on that thing!
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4. July 2008 @ 00:07 |
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I thought the pleasantly round female belted out a tune already. Maybe not?
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4. July 2008 @ 01:39 |
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Originally posted by Blackjax:
I thought the pleasantly round female belted out a tune already. Maybe not?
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4. July 2008 @ 08:33 |
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Originally posted by Blackjax:
I thought the pleasantly round female belted out a tune already. Maybe not?
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The fat lady that sings...
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4. July 2008 @ 09:00 |
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Originally posted by Blackjax:
I thought the pleasantly round female belted out a tune already. Maybe not?
Maybe she didn't sing loud enough for China to hear.
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4. July 2008 @ 11:05 |
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Toshiba is already rumored to be targetting Blu-ray with better upscaling DVD players
If toshiba say that they can take 720x576px(DVD) and make it look as good as 1920x1080px(BD)...
Then i wonder where Sony or yamaha, samsung can reach by starting with 1920x1080(BD)...5000+ x 2800+ px? Is that simple?
The pixels arent there, end of story.
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4. July 2008 @ 12:44 |
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So you knuckleheads don't think the major studios will be putting out HD DVD content for the largest market in the world? Go take another bong hit and think about it.
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4. July 2008 @ 13:03 |
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I don?t think that HD-DVD will be coming back but if it did it would be good for all of us. Even though most of you didn?t like the so called format war it was and always is good for the consumer. We need competition in the market for pricing and performance.
There are big differences with BD size capability is the main one but the bitrate is better as well and because of the size capabilities they use higher res sound uncompressed. So when you ask a store sales clerk what the differences are and they say better sound and picture they are right, presuming the source is high quality of course. These things have been hashed over-and-over again here at AD and you should know better. Now if you are an Upscaling king then what can we say it just doesn?t matter you?ll never get.
AS to HiDef there is really nothing to explain once the customer sees the difference from a side-by-side or even stand alone viewing you need not explain anything the difference is noticeable, unless of course you are an upscaler king. As to the differences in formats then some explanation might be necessary.
When buying a digital camera digital zoom is meaningless Optical zoom is the important feature to look at and 10x is the way to go or better if you can find it. Digital zoom is just a marketing thing and I love it when they multiply the two to make it look even better, what a joke. Its like buying an amplifier and when they display the wattage they add all of the channels in a peak-to-peak form to make it really seem powerful instead of using the more important RMS rating per channel.
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4. July 2008 @ 13:12 |
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Originally posted by nyurbiz:
So you knuckleheads don't think the major studios will be putting out HD DVD content for the largest market in the world? Go take another bong hit and think about it.
The largest market you're referring to also boasts the fact that more bootlegs are sold than genuine copies of movies and 90% of revenue is lost to piracy. I'm sure the major studios will be salivating at the chance to release there.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/hollywo...9788693472.html
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4. July 2008 @ 13:23 |
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I will just add to this discussion by stating that if this proves successful in China we will see it here. China is the source for electronics and even if it is just an add on someone will offer it for sale in the U.S. market. Cost of discs will also be important for those who will be burning their own. Remember not everyone goes over to Wally World to buy their movies--the internet makes it possible to shop everywhere. Anyway have fun and don't get too serious--it's just entertainment.
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