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Microsoft confirms new model, price cut, for Xbox 360

article published on 13 July, 2008

Ending all speculation, Microsoft has finally officially confirmed that it is cutting the price on its Xbox 360 Pro model by $50 USD as well as introducing a new 60GB model that will retail for $349 USD. Starting today the 20GB Pro model will sell for $299. The software giant says the new model will go on sale beginning in early August. Strangely though, Microsoft will continue to sell ... [ read the full article ]

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13. July 2008 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
true, best buy already has the deal online, i was hoping that the elite dropped 50$ also(cuz of the hd), now 150 is too much of a difference, i guess they are trying to get rid of the arcade version and the premium one since there are rumors of a new board coming up later this year(jasper)
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13. July 2008 @ 14:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
umm im not n expert on Xbox details..whats the difference between the pro and the elite? why such a high pricetag on the elite?
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13. July 2008 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Elite, the headset, and controller are black instead of the usual white, it has HDMI, which the Pro does not, comes with a 120GB HDD compared to a tiny 20GB HDD and comes with an HDMI cable.

The new 60GB is probably worth the extra $50, especially if you like to play Arcade games or download trials for games.

Dropping the Elite to $399 would be awesome and probably a real smart move from M$. However, they probably won't do that until $ony drops the PS3 price again.
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13. July 2008 @ 15:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Price war between MS and Sony ?
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13. July 2008 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by iluvendo:
Price war between MS and Sony ?
Possibly, but Sony has already said they won't cut the PS3's price in 2008.

They will probably stick to their word unless this price cut really boosts the XBox 360's foothold vs the PS3.
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13. July 2008 @ 15:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What's up everybody? Does anyone know if this new 60gb model will be the "jaspar"? I believe I heard something about the "jaspar" coming out in August or September. Thanx in advance.
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13. July 2008 @ 16:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
4 different SKU's! Microsoft doesn't know what they are doing and just confusing consumers into buying a Wii or PS3.
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
The Elite, the headset, and controller are black instead of the usual white, it has HDMI, which the Pro does not, comes with a 120GB HDD compared to a tiny 20GB HDD and comes with an HDMI cable.

The new 60GB is probably worth the extra $50, especially if you like to play Arcade games or download trials for games.

Dropping the Elite to $399 would be awesome and probably a real smart move from M$. However, they probably won't do that until $ony drops the PS3 price again.
all of the 360s now have hdmi, even the arcade one. the only difference is the the color, and the 120 gig HD which is a waste since there isnt 120 gigs worth of stuff on the LIVE marketplace that is worth downloading.
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13. July 2008 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looks like you are correct, the "Comparison" page doesn't say they all have HDMI.

But when I looked at the individual pages even the Arcade bundle has HDMI now, cool.
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13. July 2008 @ 16:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ya, it was about the only smart thing MS has done is put hdmi on all of them. now they just need to throw in the 2 dollar hdmi cable so people dont have to waste money on that.
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13. July 2008 @ 16:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks 4 the info :)
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
They will probably stick to their word unless this price cut really boosts the XBox 360's foothold vs the PS3.
Actually its Microsoft 360 sells that are sluggish right now & PS3 getting stronger to the point PS3 has already out sold 360 in EUR.That word will last until the holidays when Sony drop the price on there systems.Sony always drop the price on there console around the holidays i would for sure look for there price cut then but coming from Sony the question is how much of a price drop?

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Actually its Microsoft 360 sells that are sluggish right now & PS3 getting stronger to the point PS3 has already out sold 360 in EUR.
pfft are you serious????? i dont think you are.....19 million xbox 360's have currently been sold across the world, and about 5 million in EUR

the PS3 has sold ONLY 6 million total......

look i dont want to sound like a fanboy, and neither should you nexgen, these corporation care nothing for us!!! so why go out of our way to protect their name???

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Our strategy is not to sell more quantity for PS3 but to concentrate on profitability," said Oneda. "Our plan is to not reduce the price."



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13. July 2008 @ 18:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
MS often have a mid season price cut in the "slow season". Many retailers also have sales at this time of year, and this probably helps them to sell more reduced price games along with the lower priced consoles.

I don't see where the comparison with sony even comes in here. It is a well known MS marketing tactic.. release a new version of a console and reduce the price of the older lines. I just fail to see why they think a multitude of different models helps their case. They should be concentrating on the manufacturing problems.

Sony have already been clear that they have no intentions to reduce the price of the PS3 this year.
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"Our strategy is not to sell more quantity for PS3 but to concentrate on profitability," said Oneda. "Our plan is to not reduce the price."

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/14768.cfm

That seems pretty clear cut, they have no real interest in "winning the console war" but just want to make the maximum profit per item sold.
the only people who say they have outsold the 360 in Europe are proven sony bloggers using data from items shipped not sold over the counter. I'm waiting to see the retailers association figures for the end of the year. It is interesting that some of the local large superstores while continuing to stock the 360 and Wii have dropped the ps3. Masybe they aren't getting enough of a kickback for the static shelf space.

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Actually its Microsoft 360 sells that are sluggish right now & PS3 getting stronger to the point PS3 has already out sold 360 in EUR.
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pfft are you serious????? i dont think you are.....19 million xbox 360's have currently been sold across the world, and about 5 million in EUR

the PS3 has sold ONLY 6 million total......
look i dont want to sound like a fanboy, and neither should you nexgen, these corporation care nothing for us!!! so why go out of our way to protect their name???


You might sound like a fanboy if..... your numbers are skewed... if the following website is correct, PS3 is 13 Million world wide.

http://www.vgchartz.com/?b=6

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Actually its Microsoft 360 sells that are sluggish right now & PS3 getting stronger to the point PS3 has already out sold 360 in EUR.
pfft are you serious????? i dont think you are.....19 million xbox 360's have currently been sold across the world, and about 5 million in EUR

the PS3 has sold ONLY 6 million total......

look i dont want to sound like a fanboy, and neither should you nexgen, these corporation care nothing for us!!! so why go out of our way to protect their name???

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Our strategy is not to sell more quantity for PS3 but to concentrate on profitability," said Oneda. "Our plan is to not reduce the price."



This tread isn't about who sold the most its about 360 price cut i said that not to be fan boyish but to point out to maybe why Microsoft gave the price cut your numbers are far off PS3 has out sold 360 in EUR about two months ago but that don't matter.
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13. July 2008 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh gotta love it.. still defending 3rd place for the floor sitters..

You never see any tendo fanboys do you? Look at the Wii and DS figures..

DS has sold more than twice the units of the psp according to that site which is
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dedicated to providing point-of-sale retail estimates of worldwide videogame buying trends

(estimates again.. not REAL figures) with the Wii having the same kind of lead over the ps3..

I think I should be a tendo fanboy ;).. have a defensible position of #1 by a huge margin overall... hahaha

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Oh gotta love it.. still defending 3rd place for the floor sitters..

You never see any tendo fanboys do you? Look at the Wii and DS figures..

DS has sold more than twice the units of the psp according to that site which is
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dedicated to providing point-of-sale retail estimates of worldwide videogame buying trends

(estimates again.. not REAL figures) with the Wii having the same kind of lead over the ps3..

I think I should be a tendo fanboy ;).. have a defensible position of #1 by a huge margin overall... hahaha


Only Fan Boys & Hater care about numbers i don't give a damm who sold the most.I own a PS3 because thats what cater to me.
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13. July 2008 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Only Fan Boys & Hater care about numbers i don't give a damm who sold the most.I own a PS3 because thats what cater to me.
Exactly. I own a PS3 for the same reason, it's what i want.

I think this may have gotten a wee bit off topic.

M$ is cutting the price for the midseason to fight against a lag in sales because people are going to the beach, or playing baseball, and not spending as much on consoles.

Sony is not.

Ta-Dah!


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13. July 2008 @ 22:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the Pro model is 80$ more than it should be.....
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
The Elite, the headset, and controller are black instead of the usual white, it has HDMI, which the Pro does not, comes with a 120GB HDD compared to a tiny 20GB HDD and comes with an HDMI cable.

The new 60GB is probably worth the extra $50, especially if you like to play Arcade games or download trials for games.

Dropping the Elite to $399 would be awesome and probably a real smart move from M$. However, they probably won't do that until $ony drops the PS3 price again.
They all have HDMI unless you buy an old refurbish that i see a local store selling! The product page dosent show it but if you look & the boxes in store they all have it! they did last xmas! The arcade has no hdd & a wired controller,m pro has wireless & 20gb halo has wireless & battery & 20gb, elite has wireless & 120 gb!
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$20 diff between the arcade and 20gb pro? wow you'd be an fool if u went for the arcade version and not go for the 20gb pro. So pretty much this new 60gb is the same as the 20gb just higher HDD and kept at the previous 20gb pro price. Were't there sum xbox fanboys saying how stupid Sony was for just increasing HDD only to keep the same selling price? well they can take back their words. Depending on how ppl want to look at this, but more SKU = more options...yet also more confusing indeed. This is more rediculous then the different amount of SKU Sony put out. Sony has/had 2 at max..maybe 3 at one time but only because they were discontinuing the 60gb while 80gb were being brought in. But MS is planning to keep 4 different SKU? do you kno how hard thatll be for retailers? they wont have alot space to put 4 different amounts out. Worst of all is if costumers come and ask for a certain SKU but its all gone cuz they needed fit in stock for the other different SKUs so they have limited amound of each. I'd think itd be best if MS had only the 60gb Pro for $299 and the elite for 399$(no old gen technology should be worth more than newer) Well xbox is far from dead so hopefuly this mite help MS.
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And people wonder why Nintendo sells so well! They only have one SKU! When kids ask for the Wii for Christmas, the parents don't have to twiddle their thumbs and scratch their head while the sales associate explains that this one "has HDMI, larger HDD, etc."

The same goes for the DS and even the PSP. The only major difference in SKUs are bundle packages or the color of the system. It's choice without all of the techno-babble hassle.

Back to the article. I do think that MS is going to kill off one of their SKUs. They desperately need to. The Elite was a waste to introduce. The Arcade should've disappeared when the Elite came out and the Pro should've been $300 back then.

There are too many gaps in price with little benefit in the actual pacakge with these skus. Besides, if you don't want to buy the Elite in the first place, because of the price tag, but knowing you will need to buy a bunch of accessories if you pick up the Arcade, I think you just avoid buying an Xbox altogether.

Add in Xbox Live, and like I've said before, it's a "Sega" inspired fleecing!
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14. July 2008 @ 09:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
True.. they have completely lost me with all these differences. After all.. they all do basically the same thing.. have laser failures and the ring of death after 12-16 months ;) hehehe.. Now where did I put my megaman cart for my master system ?
 
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