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14. July 2008 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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New Xbox Experience: Play games from HDD, new display support & more

Marc Whitten today shared an open letter on the new Xbox experience. Some of the additional features include play from hard drive, access LIVE marketplace on the web, dashboard built into the new Xbox guide, LIVE party system, Xbox Live Primetime, Avatars and New display support.

Here is the letter...

Dear Xbox LIVE Member,

When we launched Xbox 360 in November 2005, Xbox LIVE was integrated directly into the console. Back then, Xbox 360 was the first system to deliver access to experiences beyond just the disc in the tray. With the Xbox guide and dashboard you had access to everything on your console as well as your community.

We also imagined that Xbox experience would continuously improve over time, through the power of software.

Since launch, you?ve always pushed us to continuously innovate. It is because you spoke with one loud voice that we added new features like background downloading, 1080p support, movies and TV shows, video chat, a Marketplace blade and instant messaging.

Over time, as we?ve delivered more and more content into the Xbox LIVE Marketplace, we?ve heard from many of you that it has become increasingly difficult to find the games and content you want.

And that brings us to today.

Because of your feedback, we started rethinking the entire Xbox experience. What we discovered was that we could not only provide a better experience for you, but also something that reaches out to new audiences.

What John Schappert unveiled for the world on stage at E3 was just a sneak preview, so I wanted to share some deeper details on some of the new features in the new Xbox experience.

Here is a look at some additional features you will find interesting:

? Play from hard drive. Copy your games from the Game Disc and play directly from the hard drive. Not only will the drive not spin, but load times are quicker, as well. Of course, you will still need the disc in the tray to prove you own the game.

? Access Xbox LIVE Marketplace on the Web. Browse and purchase Marketplace content whenever you want from Xbox.com and it downloads automatically to your console. Purchase that new map, television episode, the latest Xbox LIVE Arcade game or set up a movie to watch when you get home from work.

? Dashboard built into the new Xbox Guide. For everyone who loves the blades interface, it?s not going away; they are now built directly in to the new Xbox guide. Every feature and option is available right from the guide. You can even access your full games library at all times. No matter where you are (in dash or in game), immediately call up your games played list and directly launch a game.

? LIVE Party system. Create a party of up to eight friends, and stay with them from one game to another, or watch a Netflix movie together, or share a slideshow of your personal photos. It works with all Xbox 360 titles, not just upcoming games. LIVE Party allows up to eight people to chat in the dashboard, so you can meet up before playing.

? Xbox LIVE Primetime. This whole new category of games is going to give you more reasons to get online with your friends. Games will support everything you?d expect, like Achievements and leader boards, but many of these games will include real prizes. You can invite your friends, and even set a reminder for an upcoming show. Each game is broadcast simultaneously, so everyone is answering the same questions. Many events will have a live host, calling the shots as they happen.

? Avatars. Your online identity started as a Gamertag - it then grew into a personalized Gamercard. Now, it has evolved even further into avatars. You can express your style, check out new outfits and share this with the community. Avatars will also be integrated into Xbox LIVE Arcade games, LIVE Party, as well as retail games.

? New display support. Because you asked for it, we are adding 16X10 over VGA or HDMI, and support for 1440x900 or 1680x1050.
This is only the beginning. Over the next few months, we will share more details on the upcoming changes.

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nismodrft
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14. July 2008 @ 20:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sweet, if only the damn 120gb harddrive wasn't so expensive!
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14. July 2008 @ 22:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 60 gig Live Starter Kit will be $99 and the 120 gig will be $149.
ANeophyte
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14. July 2008 @ 22:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For the whole system or just the HDD?

When this comes out, if i update my flashed xbox will it brick? Is there a set date for the release? And will it be a forced update?
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14. July 2008 @ 23:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For the hdd. All updates are forced. If you don't update through LIVE, you'll eventually have to through a new game.
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15. July 2008 @ 08:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
At E3 they actually showed off the new avatars, party system, and primetime. It looks good, however it sounds like primetime costs money to play.

Go to this link if you are cool enough to realize that the best kind of money is free money. (NOT A SCAM, I PROMISE)

http://bux.to/?r=krazemon
Severeth
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15. July 2008 @ 09:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In the interview with the dude from banjo kazooie the last comment he said was "Look foward to seeing it on Live" Does this mean you will be able to download full retail games to your hard drive and play it?
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15. July 2008 @ 13:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, you can do that now with some original Xbox titles. But I doubt MS will sell 360 titles on LIVE for download. Atleast not for awhile.

But you will be able to install your 360 games from the disc on to the hdd and then play from the hdd. You will still need the disc in the drive, for security reasons.
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15. July 2008 @ 14:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that with the new dashboard and extras, security will really be buttoned down. It'll be interesting to see if loading backups to the hdd leads to a new round of bannings.

Only time will tell.

I also like how one person can stream a Netflix movie and him and people on his friends list (only 8 total) can all watch it at once.

The only pics I've seen are the shots from E3... and those are easy to find.
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15. July 2008 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i am thinking we will still be ok with our backups, as long as we have them in the drive, i love the faster loading times idea, and i really like the fact we can now all chat with the dashboard up to 8 ppl not just in game lobbys. pretty sweet, they give any word on when all this is happening? also bhetrick, you have any pics? i did a quick search and just saw a glimps of the new dash. i have to run for now so i could search later. but if you have them you should put them up here
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17. July 2008 @ 03:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
will anything happen to our flashed consoles if we update? and will we still be able to play our backups?
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17. July 2008 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No one knows but MS.
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18. July 2008 @ 09:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, it looks like we may soon be able to add larger HDDs and load our games to it with modded dashboards, just like the original xbox.

"Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool!"
bcham
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18. July 2008 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
should save ware and tare on the dvd laser.
mack786
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18. July 2008 @ 12:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It would be an awesome feature if Microsoft weren't so greedy.

If they open up the spec and let you use any hard drive you can install quite a few games on the 360 but a 7.5GB game and a 20GB HDD won't give you much breathing space.

Throwing in a 250GB HDD or buying a 2.5 to 3.5 inch adapter and plugging in a terabyte HDD would be the way to go IMO.

My games would take up 200GB+
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18. July 2008 @ 18:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bhetrick:
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New Xbox Experience: Play games from HDD, new display support & more

Marc Whitten today shared an open letter on the new Xbox experience. Some of the additional features include play from hard drive, access LIVE marketplace on the web, dashboard built into the new Xbox guide, LIVE party system, Xbox Live Primetime, Avatars and New display support.

Here is the letter...

Dear Xbox LIVE Member,

sounds a bit too good to be true

When we launched Xbox 360 in November 2005, Xbox LIVE was integrated directly into the console. Back then, Xbox 360 was the first system to deliver access to experiences beyond just the disc in the tray. With the Xbox guide and dashboard you had access to everything on your console as well as your community.

We also imagined that Xbox experience would continuously improve over time, through the power of software.

Since launch, you?ve always pushed us to continuously innovate. It is because you spoke with one loud voice that we added new features like background downloading, 1080p support, movies and TV shows, video chat, a Marketplace blade and instant messaging.

Over time, as we?ve delivered more and more content into the Xbox LIVE Marketplace, we?ve heard from many of you that it has become increasingly difficult to find the games and content you want.

And that brings us to today.

Because of your feedback, we started rethinking the entire Xbox experience. What we discovered was that we could not only provide a better experience for you, but also something that reaches out to new audiences.

What John Schappert unveiled for the world on stage at E3 was just a sneak preview, so I wanted to share some deeper details on some of the new features in the new Xbox experience.

Here is a look at some additional features you will find interesting:

? Play from hard drive. Copy your games from the Game Disc and play directly from the hard drive. Not only will the drive not spin, but load times are quicker, as well. Of course, you will still need the disc in the tray to prove you own the game.

? Access Xbox LIVE Marketplace on the Web. Browse and purchase Marketplace content whenever you want from Xbox.com and it downloads automatically to your console. Purchase that new map, television episode, the latest Xbox LIVE Arcade game or set up a movie to watch when you get home from work.

? Dashboard built into the new Xbox Guide. For everyone who loves the blades interface, it?s not going away; they are now built directly in to the new Xbox guide. Every feature and option is available right from the guide. You can even access your full games library at all times. No matter where you are (in dash or in game), immediately call up your games played list and directly launch a game.

? LIVE Party system. Create a party of up to eight friends, and stay with them from one game to another, or watch a Netflix movie together, or share a slideshow of your personal photos. It works with all Xbox 360 titles, not just upcoming games. LIVE Party allows up to eight people to chat in the dashboard, so you can meet up before playing.

? Xbox LIVE Primetime. This whole new category of games is going to give you more reasons to get online with your friends. Games will support everything you?d expect, like Achievements and leader boards, but many of these games will include real prizes. You can invite your friends, and even set a reminder for an upcoming show. Each game is broadcast simultaneously, so everyone is answering the same questions. Many events will have a live host, calling the shots as they happen.

? Avatars. Your online identity started as a Gamertag - it then grew into a personalized Gamercard. Now, it has evolved even further into avatars. You can express your style, check out new outfits and share this with the community. Avatars will also be integrated into Xbox LIVE Arcade games, LIVE Party, as well as retail games.

? New display support. Because you asked for it, we are adding 16X10 over VGA or HDMI, and support for 1440x900 or 1680x1050.
This is only the beginning. Over the next few months, we will share more details on the upcoming changes.



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CrisKahn2
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19. July 2008 @ 04:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Play from hard drive. Copy your games from the Game Disc and play directly from the hard drive. Not only will the drive not spin, but load times are quicker, as well. Of course, you will still need the disc in the tray to prove you own the game.
What exactly is the point of this? Waste of HDD space. Load times are like what 1 second quicker? I would understand if you didnt need to have the disc in the tray but you might as well just not install it to the HDD if you are going to have to have the game in the tray.

Everything els looks cool tho. Cant wait for the netflix feature.

PS3...it only does everything(that Sony allows it to)

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19. July 2008 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by CrisKahn2:
What exactly is the point of this? Waste of HDD space.
How about no drive noise and no wear and tear on the laser. There are countless threads about people with dead lasers. Or how about all the people with GTA4 loading/texture pop up problems?

The disc needs to be in the drive to verify ownership, but that's it. Once it's verified, that's it. No more reading from the disc.
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19. July 2008 @ 11:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok I didn't see this unitl today.

You guys do realize what this means right? This is basically a major hint for the next-gen xbox. With the way things happen to be at this moment: LIVE's huge success, XBOX mutimedia features, MS anti-BD adgenda... all this adds up to mean 1 thing: next gen console from MS will move to all digital content delivery. Meaning, 1. You don't go out to by any games, you DL via LIVE, 2. DRM associated with any digital content delivery basically screws the end user. 3. They make even more money doing disc-less. 4. Again, we get screwed.


Sony, on the other hand, will most likely take on a different path. Their situation as it stand: BD is alive and accepted as next-gen disc media. Sony owns BD. Sony's online system is very weak and is in infancy. Sony will still be using disc based BD for their next gen for sure.

If MS takes this route as predicted, I might have to go Sony for this next one. Certainly not good news.


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19. July 2008 @ 19:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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How about no drive noise and no wear and tear on the laser. There are countless threads about people with dead lasers. Or how about all the people with GTA4 loading/texture pop up problems?
There are also countless threads about dead 360's with RROD...that doesnt mean anything. There are a percentage of crappy 360's that are faulty ofcourse they are gonna have bad lasers. Im sure good functioning 360's will do fine playing the game without loading from the HDD.

If what you are saying is true to the majority then the 360 must be the biggest POS ever built if it cant function normally playing games of a disc.

And if you dont have the elite or buy an expensive 120 gigg HDD then what only 3 or 4 games at most stored to the HDD....again what is the point?



PS3...it only does everything(that Sony allows it to)
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19. July 2008 @ 20:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The point has been stated. MS is giving people the option to install games on their hdd. You don't have to if you don't want. Many have wanted this option from day one. And now MS is allowing it.

If people want this option, how is it useless?


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19. July 2008 @ 21:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how bout, its his opinion


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20. July 2008 @ 00:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by CrisKahn2:
..again what is the point?

Maybe read my post right above yours?


This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. July 2008 @ 00:19

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