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FLASH YOUR SAMSUNG MS28 WITH NFORCE4! NO VCC OR VIA NEEDED!
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bob45211
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7. August 2008 @ 01:59 |
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I have just personally confirmed that you do not need a VIA chipset to flash a MS28 drive! I personally just flashed one with Ixtreme 1.3 and it now plays my backup games just fine! So for all of those who tell people you MUST have a via chipset or use the VCC method, you are unfortunately wrong. I have Nforce4 sata onboard controller and used dosflash to do it. It took me a bit of time to figure out exactly how, but I finally did it flawlessly and fairly easily!
One other thing... I didn't have to wait 10 seconds either to do it! I'm not sure if any other chipset other than Nforce4 or VIA will work though. Maybe we can have some other people test this out with their chipsets...?
I guess I need to tell people how to do this now and then you can all thank me for saving you about 10-20 bucks...lol
First off, here is what I had to use and have to do it...
1)Nforce4 onboard sata
2)dosflash
3)usb flash drive made bootable using iprep with the two dosflash files copied onto it as well.. dosflash.exe and dosflash.typ
4)obviously a 360 with a Toshiba Samsung MS28 dvd drive
5)Ixtreme version that includes a "Make ixtreme firmware.cmd" file
Getting Started
NOTE:Remember to have the 360's DVD Drive plugged into the computer's primary sata port during the entire procedure. There should be no reason to unplug it at anytime. When you have your hard drive plugged into your computer, just use the secondary sata port on your computer since you want to have the 360 drive always in the primary port!
ONLY UNPLUG THE 360 DVD Drive if Windows locks up while booting with it plugged in! I had no such problem and was able to leave the 360 drive plugged into the primary SATA port the entire time. Also, keep the power plug from the 360 motherboard plugged into the 360 DVD Drive at all times!
1)First thing to do is have your computer with Nforce4 sata booted into Windows. I used Vista.
2)Plug in your usb flash drive. Run the latest version of IPREP, configure it for ixtreme samsung, check patch mtkflash, select the first Nvidia nForce SATA Controller on the list(this should be the primary master), making sure that you choose the usb drive as your destination and check the "make bootable" option, then click Prepare Destination.
3)You then need to install dosflash and then copy dosflash.exe and dosflash.typ from the dosflash folder onto your usb flash drive. DO NOT COPY THEM INTO ANY FOLDERS, just right onto the drive so when you boot from the usb drive, you can simply type dosflash at the C:\ prompt and the program will run. (The C:\ wil be the USB Flash Drive actually since your hard drive will not be plugged in)
4)Next, shut down your computer and make sure you unplug ALL SATA AND IDE DRIVES FROM YOUR COMPUTER as this step is very important! Have your
360's case opened and plug the 360 MS28 DVD Drive into the primary Nforce sata port of your computer. Boot the 360 and computer at about the same time. You will be booting the computer from the USB Flash Drive, so do what you have to do to make the computer boot from the USB flash drive.
Your computer will boot up to a C:\ prompt.
5)Type dosflash.
6)During the scan for the MS28's ports, it will ask if you want to resend the MTK vendor intro command. Press ?y? and enter.
After you type "y" and hit enter, you should see a list of available drives. If you unplugged all of your computers other drives, you should only see one option with any description after it. It should say TS-H943 after one of the choices and this will be the one you choose.
7)Enter the number to the left of the TS-H943 choice, then hit enter.
You will now see something along the lines of 0X50, which may possibly alternate from some numbers like this to another set of numbers, back and forth they may switch. You now need to shut off your 360 for a couple seconds, then restart the 360 again and access should be granted.
8)Dos flash will now ask if you want to: [R] Read, [W] Write or [E] Erase.
Type R then hit enter.
9)It will now ask for a backup file name, type ORIG.bin and hit enter.
It will then say ?Reading Bank 0...... OK!? all the way to Bank 3.
The entire Reading process should take 2mins max. If the First Bank hasn?t moved by the 2 min mark, restart the process. Once successful, turn off the 360 and the computer.
10)Plug your hard drive back in and boot back into Windows. You then need to copy the orig.bin file from the USB flash drive into your folder with an ixtreme version that has a "Make ixtreme firmware.cmd" file included.
11)Double click the "Make ixtreme firmware.cmd" file and it will produce your hacked firmware file. Make sure you write down the exact name of the hacked firmware file that was created!
12)Copy the new hacked .bin file that was created back onto the usb flash drive and shut down the computer. Unplug the hard drive again, reboot both the 360 and the computer again, making sure to boot from the usb flash drive, and wait for the C:\ prompt again. Now its time to flash your MS28 with the new firmware you just created!
13)At the C:\ prompt, type dosflash.
14) Type "y" again and hit enter. You should see a list of available drives. If you unplugged all of your computers other drives, you should only see one option with any description after it. It should say TS-H943 after one of the choices and this will be the one you choose.
15)Enter the number to the left of the TS-H943 choice, then hit enter.
You will now see something along the lines of 0X50, which may possibly alternate from some numbers like this to another set of numbers, back and forth they may switch. You now need to shut off your 360 for a couple seconds, then restart the 360 again and access should be granted.
16)Dosflash will then ask if you want to: [R] Read, [W] Write or [E] Erase.
17)Press ?W? and enter.
18)It will then ask for the new Firmware?s location.
19)Type the name of the hacked firmware that was created which you wrote down and hit enter. (Will be something like ix13.bin)
20)The drive will then begin erasing the firmware. Once this is done it will say ?Writing Bank0... OK!? all the way to bank 3.
After writing has finished, turn off your 360 and your computer. Unplug the sata cable from the back of the 360 drive, replug the 360 motherboard sata cable, and reassemble your 360. Don't forget to replug all your computer drives again that you had unplugged as well! You are now ready to play your backup games! And guess what!? You didn't have to go buy a VIA card! Glad I could save you a little bit of money and prove all the people wrong that said you couldn't flash an MS28 without a VIA card or the VCC method! Amazing what a little hard work and dedication can achieve!
Written by bobbyk45211
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7. August 2008 @ 02:21 |
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we already know that you need the nforce4 chipset if you don't have the via card.
but how many of us are fortunate to have nforce4 boards?
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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bob45211
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7. August 2008 @ 02:29 |
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Maybe you can be one of the first to test this with another board/chipset....??? After all, thats one of the reasons I posted the tutorial that is included. I hope this works on the MS28 with other chipsets using dosflash as well.
Also, there is no need to remove any resistors (VCC method) using the above method, so did you really know you could do this already? I'd hate to have wasted my time typing all this out. I searched everywhere for a method for MS28 other than VIA card and VCC, I heard one person say they were able to do it, but never found anyone who could explain how they did it when asked.
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7. August 2008 @ 06:08 |
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this has been tested time and time again, that is why we go with via, we go with what works. no sense in bricking your drive over 12$
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gskmr2
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7. August 2008 @ 15:55 |
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Just joined the forum to say thanks for this info - flashed using the Nforce4 chipset on an Asus P5N-E board, worked first time, no problems!
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bob45211
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8. August 2008 @ 06:32 |
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Glad to have helped, gskmr2. Everyone keeps saying this method has been known, but I have yet to find any tutorial about flashing the MS28 without having to remove a resistor or buying a VIA card. This method may work with other boards, I just don't have any other boards to test this with. Hopefully someone will step up and try it with other boards.
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genome
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9. August 2008 @ 10:27 |
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I am sorry but the amount of information in regards to the NFORCE SATA chipset is lacking at best and almost non existent in most areas when you run a generic search. I have an ASUS and ABIT board both of which have the nforce chipset however, these are advanced boards and the binary code in the mtkflash file is incorrect. I had to use hex workshop and adjust the chipset identification numbers to match mine. Now my problem is I left all the other sata ports connected and I think I am getting a non response due to port identification. I checked and the port identification is correct, however, it just freezes when selecting "master" even though the xbox 28 is on SATA 1. Gonna give your method a shot what the heck! I have edited the mtkflash file as much as I believe I possibly can to get a good identification. If all works I will post how I edited the mtkflash file its really not hard if you know where to look and what your looking for! Great post...gonna give it a whirl after my morning service calls. Thank god for half day Saturdays!
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genome
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9. August 2008 @ 10:33 |
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Oh yeah even though my boards are nforce it is only apparent that they are in the motherboard book. They actually setup in device manager as a JMicron JMB36X controller. However it is an nforce chipset just a newer more advanced one then the nforce 2, 3 and 4 all of which are in mtkflash file! Found them when hex editing for my specific chipset. So I am willing to be your test subject after all I am not about to short out anything or remove chips simply to backup a game when I can buy a flash device to do it for me. Just stubborn, its not the money its the principle of the thing!! I want to do it the poor man's way and if I can find anything that might make it easier for someone else I will be sure to post here. Will let you know how I fair!
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9. August 2008 @ 10:36 |
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Thanks for the time in making this guide!
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Gambs90
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23. August 2008 @ 02:54 |
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While the initiative is greatly appreciated, I've got a problem.
I followed the instructions, got everything working without blowing up my 360, and it starts fine. Problem is, when I toss in a regular 360 disk, it doesn't recognize the dvd drive as a 360 dvd drive, and I get the 'please insert this disk into an xbox 360' error. Have I screwed up somewhere, or is this merely not meant to be? I'd love some help, please.
Edit: nVidia MCP61 SATA Controller is what iPrep is saying I have for a chipset. I wouldn't rule it out as a possible chipset to use for this method, but I included it for reference.
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genome
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23. August 2008 @ 11:32 |
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I finally relented and went with a VIA chipset board that I had and got the MS28 I had to flash however, after much digging, I found that you can have a number of anomolies after the flash process that will make you believe you have bricked the drive. In my case I got the E66 error XBOX bootup. I went back and upgraded the firmware to the highest version I could I find. I used samread/samhack to get mine to work and its working fine. The error went away and its taken everything I have thrown at it without issue!! I also flashed an elite 79 using the tool box and the 79 unlocker and again used the newest ixtreme release and this time did not run into errors of any kind. If I were in your shoes I would re flash and use a higher ixtreme flash to do so! Hope this helps!
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Gambs90
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23. August 2008 @ 13:02 |
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I know the drive isn't bricked, it runs a dvd (Little Nicky and Sunshine, ftw!) perfectly fine.
My theory is it will run an ISO of a game just fine (yet to test) but won't recognize a regular disk...does anyone have any suggestions?
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dcloser11
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23. August 2008 @ 16:07 |
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i did this but used a simpler way and dosflash32 my tutorial is here if you wanna give it a go iv tested it a 50+ Times every since i started flashing ms28's amd it works great and easy 8 steps and done in vista no dos typing
here is the onsite link
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/695048
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Gambs90
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23. August 2008 @ 16:43 |
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Hm, so apparently it's not the firmware, both the games I tried to run were broken (scratchy scratchy), works fine now.
My only other concern is that I've heard stories that MS tends to autoban consoles with modded firmware, yet I see people here and on other forums discussing live and updates like it's not a problem. WILL I get autobanned for this firmware? I don't really care, just curious.
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25. August 2008 @ 04:42 |
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First off, awesome thread and info.
Second, I've been flashing ms25/28's for several months with nforce4 chipset, but people thought I was nuts and didn't give a poo so I didn't care to explain how.
It was an experiment using dosflash and it worked, just like the OP has found out as well.
For those that have nforce4 chipset be thankful to the OP that he shared his findings.
For those that still want to go with "what works" fine. But this DOES "work" with nforce4 chipset. Always has.
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