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Xbox 360 still freezing after x-clamp fix. (updated problem! 8/23)
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11. August 2008 @ 19:44 |
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So I did the x-clamp to my xbox 360 with artic silver. I put in a whisper fan and bought a cooling station for it. I heated the heatsinks up by putting fan on big heatsink. It worked for around half an hour but then it started going to working only 2 minutes. What can I do to keep it from over heating ?I put some pennys on teh bottom too still checking to see if those will work. Do you think drill holes in the bottom and putting the screws threw the case will help?
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12. August 2008 @ 00:34 |
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did you make sure to not over tighten the screws yet the die and sink has to touch. Screw the screw in crosscross fashion, this way not 1 corner or side is unevenly tight.
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12. August 2008 @ 11:21 |
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I have the same problem. I replaced my x clamp last week and it worked fine for the first few hours of play and now it freezes every few minutes and I have to keep turning my console off and on at the switch.
Did you manage to fix it by loosening the screws???
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12. August 2008 @ 12:32 |
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Re tighten as above, and make sure you followed all steps- including the important overheating step?!
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12. August 2008 @ 14:17 |
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Okay I tried loosening the screws and testing with the case open and it still froze.
So I took out all the screws, washers and heatsinks. What is the crosscross fashion I should use to re-insert the screws??
Also, I scratched my motherboard very slighly whilst originally replacing the x clamp and loosened the mini capacitor labelled C5R20. Others have done the same without causing problems, but I've attached the image of my damaged board just in case:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/620314/360_motherboard.jpg.html
Cheers
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17. August 2008 @ 19:57 |
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Did that now it dosn't even frezze it goes straight to the red light it dosn't get how at all Igeus I will leave it on until the cpu gets hot enought to resolder.
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18. August 2008 @ 00:30 |
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Well that didn't work so I loosned te bolts then let it over heat got a little bit hotter then before. Will test in the morining to see if it works. For an update first my xbox worked for a bit then gave me the redrings then I overheated it then it would turn on and frezze now it's back to 3 redrings once it turned on but froze I can tell the cpu is getting hot ,but not the big heatsink. Any suggestions? This is my second xbox I am not having luck with!
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18. August 2008 @ 01:54 |
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do you have rubber or nylon washers insulating the board? I looked at the picture it looks like you missed those. You could easily heat up that micro transistor and move it up a bit. If you have continuity from that point to the other i would just leave it alone. Still if you are using metal washers on both sides you could be shorting the board. So that would be one thing to check.
You should check your secondary error code and go from there. Troubleshooting for the 360 is getting a bit easier with the more defined error codes.
Check this thread
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/663061
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 18. August 2008 @ 01:56
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18. August 2008 @ 08:45 |
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wow i am not a big fan of that picture hosting service you used. i had to start up task manager just to close a window, very annyoing. btw why did you not use the proper screws?
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18. August 2008 @ 11:29 |
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There is two people in this forum with teh same problem I did not post a picture. I used nylon washers and metal washers 1 nylon and one metal on each side nylon touching the motherboard of course. I reheated it and then tinghtened the screws again after hat it didn't seem to work. Every time I reheat it tt turns on once (still frezzes though) and every time after that it just gos to the red rings. The smaller heatsink gets hot pretty fast, the biger one dosn't get that hot.
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18. August 2008 @ 13:44 |
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heatsinks are supposed to get hot that means they are working. so that might be something you want to look into, as the gpu should be getting hot as well.
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18. August 2008 @ 14:55 |
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well it does get hot just not as fast as the other heatsink. It's probabaly because I have the fan I have never let it over heat ithout the fan on it I will try that!
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18. August 2008 @ 16:52 |
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you cant let it overheat without the fan on it, it will auto power itself off. temp sensor is connected to cpu.
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18. August 2008 @ 17:01 |
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Originally posted by Llamma's Tutorials:
In order to cool the CPU but not the GPU it is again important to have your fan shroud removed. Now take your fan that IS plugged in and lay it on top of your DVD drive with one of the fan's over the top of the CPU. This will keep the CPU plenty cool to prevent it from overheating while the GPU will get smokin' hot; like burn your finger hot!
http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/rin...x-clamp_fix.htm
That's probably the best tutorial you'll find around.
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18. August 2008 @ 17:45 |
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Now it has the error code 0110 what can I do to fix that on the chart it said it s a cold or bridged soldier point between the ram.
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18. August 2008 @ 23:56 |
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19. August 2008 @ 02:17 |
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You have way too much thermal paste on there, you should take some rubbing alcohol and clean all around the processor die. Why in the world would you put artic silver on the back of a ram chip? That could be causing a short really easy.
Originally posted by Llamma:
Silver based compounds can have adverse effects when in contact with electrical components not to mention the thermal compounds efficiency is greatly reduced when too much is applied.
With that being said it looks like you're causing more problems than you're solving. Artic silver 5 contains little specs of silver and could easily conduct electricity. Think of taking solder and running it up and down your ram chips...... I hope you get the point.
If i were you i'd clean off the ram chips and clean off the processor dies and start over. They need to look like this
and then apply just a dab of paste and smooth it out. You don't want it on anything besides the processor die.
So clean up your mess, do it right and let us know how it goes.
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19. August 2008 @ 11:08 |
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I used two metal washer, rather than 1 metal and 1 nylon, could that have been a problem. Also used spring washers underneath. I'm not getting an error, it's just freezing, but when I was it was 0110 - Cold Solder Joint. Is that the same error you are getting Decodem??
I'm going to try the heat gun fix tonight, so I'll let you know how that goes.
Does anyone know if you can use another motherboard with the 360 drive, componenets, etc. as I'm thinking of buying just a motherboard if this fix doesn't work??
Cheers
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19. August 2008 @ 11:28 |
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Well I do know you can by new mother boards from a company they cost almost as mcuh as a new xbox 360 like 250$. I am going to take it off and start all over again. Yes I get error 0110 now I will tell you the reuslte later. Also you shouls always have a nylon wahser on both sides of the mobo.
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22. August 2008 @ 23:25 |
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Ok so I put a thin layer of ArticSilver first I put the screws threw the case it gave me to red lights after 2 seconds of 3 red lights. This happens all the time i moved them to inside the case same thing. What I did notice though is if I push down on both sides of the xbox 360 mobo it stays 3 redlights for 10 secogns longer wich mean the connections are loose how can I fix them so that my xbox 360 can over heat? I don't have a heat gun! Any suggestions
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23. August 2008 @ 00:08 |
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i dont think i have the guts to do the x clamp fix.. i am too nervous.. alot of people say its easy and that. i rather hire someone to do it for me and pay for his service.
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23. August 2008 @ 10:02 |
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ok get somone elses to do it for you make sure they have a warranty though. Me myself have been through 2 xbox 360 I buy them broken and if I can't fix them I sellback for the same price I bought them.It's our choice it really no that hard to do you don't even need to do the x-clamp fix you can do the penny fix could somone help my on my part?
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24. August 2008 @ 10:42 |
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Any help would be greatly appreciated. My updated problem is up above people keep on jacking my thread!
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24. August 2008 @ 19:16 |
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Sorry for jacking the thread mate. Do you have any idea what the error code is for your 3 lights?
To find this out:
Turn the xbox 360 on, and wait till the 3 red lights are flashing.
Press and hold the sync up button (the small white one), while holding that button press the eject button.
The LEDs will now blink the first number in the code (as described below).
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the second number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the third number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the forth number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will go back to the 3 red flashing lights.
You should be able to determine the difference between the 3 flashing lights and the error code lights by the rate in which they flash.
Here is how you interpret the LEDs to get the code number:
All four lights flashing - 0
One light flashing - 1
Two Lights flashing - 2
Three lights flashing - 3
Report back the error code and I'll do some research for you.
If it's code 0110, like mine, then you'll likely have to heatgun the motherboard. I'm going to try this tomorrow so I'll let you know how it goes.
You mentioned something about a loose connection, so maybe you have to do Willhelm's improved X clamp replacement using cut up pieces of credit/phone card on the chips to ensure a better flow. I'll get the link and try to help more once you've posted your error code.
Hope this helps.
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24. August 2008 @ 21:16 |
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Well see when I bend my xbox 360 it seems to give me the redrings for longer so I know there is just loose connections. I have error code 0110. I don'thave a heatgun though.
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