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atomick
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16. August 2008 @ 06:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, I use 'Nero Burning ROM7' to back up my DVD movies (first using DVDShrink to make them ISO).

What speed should I burn at? I use 8x DVD-R's but I was told to burn slow on 4x.
Does this really make any difference or have I been told wrong?
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16. August 2008 @ 09:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
THe usual rule of thumb is burn 1/2 rated speed, but no faster than 8x. The slower the burning process, usually the better the copy. It also depends on what type of media you are using. I usually use 16x+r media, and burn no faster than 8x.

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16. August 2008 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The advice that rtm27 gave you is spot on. Please use it.

Also good media accounts for success. I use Taiyo Yudens or Sony

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16. August 2008 @ 10:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Also good media accounts for success. I use Taiyo Yudens or Sony
If you want a good steak, it's not just how you cook it; you have to buy good meat.

Use quality media for quality burns.

Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, and Sony are the way to go.


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16. August 2008 @ 10:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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If you want a good steak, it's not just how you cook it; you have to buy good meat.


Undue influence by the Gm I see !

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
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16. August 2008 @ 11:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by iluvendo:
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If you want a good steak, it's not just how you cook it; you have to buy good meat.


Undue influence by the Gm I see !
Lol. GM has taught me much. I'm gaining weight.


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16. August 2008 @ 14:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have been using Datawrite (Yellow) 8x DVD-R and after 400 burns I have never had a coaster!
I originally asked this question because burning on 4x speed takes forever and I would have liked to speed the process up.

I have burnt a test movie on 8x and the film played. . . But are you saying the 8x movie quality is reduced???

Thanks for all the help
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16. August 2008 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Generally speaking, burning at half the rated speed of a disc is recommended. The faster you work the laser the more opportunity for an error writing the information.

If you want to speed the process up; get some 16x media; the good stuff mind you, and burn at 8x.

Of course you can't forget the burner (and firmware) as an important part of the process. In other words; if your burner only has a write speed of 8x...you may be better off quality wise where you are.

At 4x what does it take...15 minutes to burn? What's the rush as long as you're getting quality burns?


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16. August 2008 @ 21:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As 7thsinger duly and correctly noted :

4x burns 4400 Mb at 15 minutes

8x burns the same at about 11-12 minutes


So no real rush for a quality burn

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17. August 2008 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Originally posted by iluvendo:
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If you want a good steak, it's not just how you cook it; you have to buy good meat.


Undue influence by the Gm I see !
Lol. GM has taught me much. I'm gaining weight.
Oi!!! I hear you 2!!! :P And your right... hehehe. :D

atomick....

You can burn at whatever speed you want to.... Be sure to use good media (rtm and 7th have sorta covered that) and a good ODD (optical disc drive) and you can't go wrong. :) I burn at 16x, 18x, and 20x but I wouldn't recommend you do that... especially if you don't have a clue as to what you're doing and also taking into consideration if you're gonna get a coaster or not. ROFL....

NOW if I'm burning something that I'm NOT giving away or a test then it's either 8x or 12x depending on the media. :)

btw burning at 20x takes less than 5 minutes and it's dang cool when the disc will allow it and the scan comes out nicely. :)

NOW TO FOLLOW up with what these guys have told you... VERY solid advice and I would adhere to it!!!

OK.. where's the steak you teasers have been talking about?? :D

..gm

anyone confused yet??? heheehehe. :P

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17. August 2008 @ 22:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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anyone confused yet??? heheehehe. :P
Me. But who cares, I want steak!

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17. August 2008 @ 23:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll take a 20 oz ribeye, medium.

Ok, back on topic, I have burnt a few thousand dvd's and have had more than my fair share of coasters. I had gotten more coasters burning at 16x (12% failure) than 8x (well under 1%).

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. August 2008 @ 23:58

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Originally posted by rtm27:
I'll take a 20 oz ribeye, medium.

Ok, back on topic, I have burnt a few thousand dvd's and have had more than my fair share of coasters. I had gotten more coasters burning at 16x (12% failure) than 8x (well under 1%).
The "red highlighted" portion is why I LOVE YOU!!! A manly type love that is.. hehehe. :P

Yes rtm 8x is much better and reliable when burning discs and therefore why I added this:

Originally posted by gm:
NOW TO FOLLOW up with what these guys have told you... VERY solid advice and I would adhere to it!!!
I honestly wouldn't suggest someone to burn higher than 12x or even 8x NOT knowing their system and it's abilities. :) I do it for fun and to take my ODD's to their limits. :D Like I said:

Originally posted by gm:
NOW if I'm burning something that I'm NOT giving away or a test then it's either 8x or 12x depending on the media. :)
I'm serious on that. If I intend to KEEP it, NO going over 12x for the gm. ;)

I guess we could get into DL media too. lol. :P I use some of those but NEVER go over 4x when burning.. It's to DANG expensive to smoke one. ROFL..... :P

...gm

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18. August 2008 @ 00:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I always burn all my media at 4X. No matter what. I never have any problems.
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Originally posted by EricCarr:
I always burn all my media at 4X. No matter what. I never have any problems.
EC you lead a boring and dull burning life. lol.

Nothing wrong with that. IF you get good results and are happy then keep doing what you're doing. :)

....gm

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18. August 2008 @ 00:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i burn my Taiyo Yuden 8x at 4x. No coasters



rtm

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I'll take a 20 oz ribeye, medium.

I see your 20 oz and raise you 12-14 lbs of true bar b qued brisket smoked slow and low for 14 - 18 hours

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18. August 2008 @ 00:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by iluvendo:
i burn my Taiyo Yuden 8x at 4x. No coasters



rtm

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I'll take a 20 oz ribeye, medium.

I see your 20 oz and raise you 12-14 lbs of true bar b qued brisket smoked slow and low for 14 - 18 hours

I can't eat 12-14 lbs of brisket in one sitting.....not even if I'm sitting on the toilet. Haven't had good brisket in a few weeks.

I used my nti cd&dvd maker to copy a burnt movie I had...burned it at 20x. It came out fine.

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Originally posted by rtm27:
I used my nti cd&dvd maker to copy a burnt movie I had...burned it at 20x. It came out fine.
That's what I'm talking about!!! :D

NOT that I would advocate such speeds but if you hold your mouth just right you can get those 20x burns to turn out. :)

rtm
do you have the quality scan and did it actually reach 19x+? How long did it take assuming it was over 4400mb? :)

....gm

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18. August 2008 @ 01:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I can't eat 12-14 lbs of brisket in one sitting

This is why you need to call your aD friends over !!


(to help you burn at 12-20x of course)

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18. August 2008 @ 01:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I usually try and stay around 4-6x when burning my TY. Not that I don't think they would handle more but my ancient computer just won't do it. Even on max speed around 8x is the best before the buffer protection kicks in to slow things down.

I have enclosed picture of said computer in the hopes of you guys forming a pitty party where we could all help rtm with his brisket problem :)




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18. August 2008 @ 04:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by rtm27:
I used my nti cd&dvd maker to copy a burnt movie I had...burned it at 20x. It came out fine.
That's what I'm talking about!!! :D

NOT that I would advocate such speeds but if you hold your mouth just right you can get those 20x burns to turn out. :)

rtm
do you have the quality scan and did it actually reach 19x+? How long did it take assuming it was over 4400mb? :)

....gm
It was 4464mb. it took about 5 minutes, after it did its disk verification, which added about 20-30 seconds.

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18. August 2008 @ 07:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Let's keep the food references & any other off-topic stuff out of here please folks.

I used to be a 4x advocate, but for the longest time it's been 8x on all 8x and 16x media, whether using internal or external burners, a mix of both, and whichever mix of media i'm using ie with multiple recorder burns.



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