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canorris
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19. August 2008 @ 15:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello. I've been poking around the forums looking for something that could help, and I've found a few people who have had similar problems but nothing quite exact. So I apologize if this has been discussed before!

Ok, so I just modded my Wii the other day with a Wiikey. I popped in a back-up copy of Indiana Jones and started to play. It played perfectly fine for a good 20 minutes, loading everything and playing the cutscenes. Then, randomly, when it went to load the next area, a message popped up telling me that the game disc could not be read and to consult the manual. Now, no other back-ups will work and none of the wiikey discs will work.

Also, the Wii wasn't touched or moved at all, and isn't in a position to be bumped so I know that nothing went wrong on the inside.

I would appreciate any help!

-Chris
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19. August 2008 @ 17:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just because the Wii is in a safe place and wasn't bumped doesn't mean it couldn't be an install issue.

Open up the Wii and resolder all joints. If you happen to have a cold soldering joint it could become unstable when the Wii heats up and give you errors. If the soldering joints become unstable enough then all backups or utility disc could stop working.

So redo all soldering joints on the instillation and make sure they are done properly.

Also make sure you use quality media and burn at 4X.


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canorris
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19. August 2008 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there no other way for me to go other than to take her all back apart? I've heard that the recovery discs aren't always reliable, but should I try something ilke that first, or just go straight to opening it up. I mean it ran and was reading discs all morning, I just hadn't started playing any.
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19. August 2008 @ 20:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why ask a question if your only going to second guess the people that answer you.

Maybe if you meditate enough you can channel all your energy to the Wii and magically make it work again.


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canorris
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19. August 2008 @ 20:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I didn't mean to second guess you. I'm sorry. i just didn't understand what you meant by cold solder and all that, can solder really melt inside the machine? I really do appreciate any advice you give me. I'll try that tonight and post back. Is there a way to get rid of cold solder joints to get something that will hold?
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19. August 2008 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A "cold" solder joint is an imperfect solder joint. It can be caused by a number of things, such as not heating both parts to a temperature to which the solder will flow and join the two parts. A cold solder joint can also occur when parts are moved before the solder has a chance to harden.

The result of a cold solder joint is "crystalized" solder which can fracture and eventually break apart.

A cold solder joint often looks dull and uneven. A good solder joint should look shiny and smooth.
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19. August 2008 @ 22:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Use flux so it flows easier and cools quicker. The soldering joints should be shiny if you do it properly. If they look dull and cloudy then you could have a cold solder joint.


canorris
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19. August 2008 @ 22:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And so a bad solder job can actually re melt later? Alright. I'll double check all the points and make them nice and shiny.

And what exactly is flux? I thought it was a part of solder, not something extra.

Wow i sound like I don't know a thing, thanks for all the help.

-Chris
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19. August 2008 @ 22:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It doesn't remelt, it cracks because of the way the solder cooled.
canorris
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19. August 2008 @ 23:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I took it apart, checked all the solder joints, and as far as I can tell they all look good. So i plugged it in and it still won't read any of the disks. Still reads originals though.

Am I just the worst solderer on the planet, or could there be another reason?

Thanks!!
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20. August 2008 @ 13:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looking at them might not be enough. Try resoldering all joints.

What media are you using?

Have you updated the Wii recently?

I still think it is an instillation or Bad Modchip. Due to the fact it was working at the begging then after 20 minutes you started getting read errors now none of them work.


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canorris
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20. August 2008 @ 20:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm using Verbatim DVD+R media, I burn at 4x.

and my wii is on 3.3U firmware.

I'll triple check all the solder points again, thanks for the help.
penguin98
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20. August 2008 @ 20:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Actually, have you tried running the wiikey recovery disk?

It's possible that the solder points are fine but the firmware was corrupted somehow.
canorris
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20. August 2008 @ 22:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea I was reading about the recovery disk, but I didn't know which version to get and don't want to waste my DVD's if I download the wrong one that wouldn't work if everything was fine. What's the best way to go about using a recovery disk?
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20. August 2008 @ 22:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The most recent recovery disk I've seen is the 1.9b recovery disk, meaning you'll have to update to 1.9s again after doing the recovery disk.

And as for using it:
The recovery disk is NOT recognized by the wii. You put the disk in and just let the wii sit on the main menu for 5 - 10 minutes. During this time there will be no sign that the disk is working, but it should be reinstalling the firmware. Once you've waited give your backups a shot again and see what happens.
canorris
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20. August 2008 @ 23:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so I just go burn it and let it sit in there for 10 minutes, then do i restart the Wii or try my other discs first?
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20. August 2008 @ 23:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe that you should be able to go right into booting other disks after waiting with the recovery disk in the drive, but shutting it off and on again would likely not hurt it either.
canorris
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20. August 2008 @ 23:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You wouldn't happen to know where I can find a copy of the recovery disc, would you? All I can come up with are forums where people talk about how it's on the Wiikey website, which no longer has the file.

Thanks!
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20. August 2008 @ 23:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it is linked in the Ultimate Sticky Thread.


canorris
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21. August 2008 @ 00:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Found it! Thanks!
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canorris
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21. August 2008 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried the recovery disc several times. I put it in and let it sit, although it didn't spin after the Wii tried to recognize it, I didn't know if that was normal or not. How likely is it that the chip is gone altogether?

Thanks for the help.
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