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The Pirate Bay is under fire again
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article published on 6 September, 2008
The infamous torrent tracker The Pirate Bay is back in the news today, this time for refusing to take down a user-uploaded torrent that includes autopsy pictures of two toddlers that were murdered in Arboga earlier this year.
The photos are part of a larger collection of material that came from a police investigation into the case.
Niklas Jangestig, the father of the murdered children, ... [ read the full article ]
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Solo_Tek
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6. September 2008 @ 19:24 |
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Walking a fine line.
I would state my argument but I think I will keep it to myself and watch the post for a few days before I post anything.
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6. September 2008 @ 19:26 |
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Mm...sounds like a bad scam to me, almost trying to make people hate pirate bay, for instance how does one acquire autopsy photo's, on children without a parental consent, makes me look and question the motives of the so called parents.
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sssharp
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6. September 2008 @ 19:28 |
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the bay probably thought the complainer was a cop/newsman and thought we dont listen to you.
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6. September 2008 @ 19:30 |
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In this case i really feel pirate bay is flat out wrong. It's sad that they won't honor this request.
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6. September 2008 @ 19:33 |
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The photos are part of a larger collection of material that came from a police investigation into the case.
if such was the case and if they where my children, hell would break loose on every police officer within the investigative unit.
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6. September 2008 @ 19:35 |
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Originally posted by grkblood:
In this case i really feel pirate bay is flat out wrong. It's sad that they won't honor this request.
No, whats sad is why they got there in the first place
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6. September 2008 @ 19:39 |
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This sounds like the police departments fault. Their inability to maintain a secure environment is what should be questioned here. It brings into question their level of competence in conducting an investigation.
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fgamer
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6. September 2008 @ 19:43 |
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Oh boy, it probably would be a good idea to just take it down. Some things are just the right thing to do, and just put all the bullsh!t aside. Plus, TPB really doesn't need all this extra unnecessary headlines which only helps further the case of the MPAA, RIAA and other anti-PirateBay entities. Hopefully something like this doesn't further the ANTI-PirateBay cause. But I do think they should/should've just taken it down. Anyways, long live TPB!!
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jony218
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6. September 2008 @ 19:50 |
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This puts the pirate bay on a different level, music/videos etc is one thing but pictures of dead children. You can't defend that. This might finally get them closed down if they don't play it right and do the right thing, maybe next time the pirate bay will defend child porn. This don't look good at all.
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gsuscrazy
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6. September 2008 @ 20:00 |
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I never minded the antics that pirate bay used, but this is an example of their arrogance, and devil may care demeanor. They dont care about unfair copyright laws, or helping create a fair playing field over digital media, they simply want to be rebels for the sake of their own vanity. and this example very well may be there downfall, I for one am emailing the admins there stating my displeasure and that I once supported their cause, and now I do not, I recommend anyone else unhappy with this story to email as well.
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Kerpalguy
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6. September 2008 @ 20:03 |
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TPB went over the fine line of ethics with this one. Absolutely tasteless and in poor judgement. Maybe the time has come for TPB to be shut down for good.
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windsong
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6. September 2008 @ 20:15 |
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Anarchists R' Us.
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KKM
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6. September 2008 @ 20:51 |
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C'mon Pirate bay...
This isn't about censorship. This is about good taste and about respect for people's own privacy.
I lost a lot of respect for them.
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evnflow
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6. September 2008 @ 21:20 |
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you know normally i am cheering pirate bay on for their determination to stand up to MPAA, etc...but this is tasteless of them to do..like most posts before me..i've lost a lot of respect for them..it would be very easy for them to take the uploaded file down..grow a heart and take it down
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6. September 2008 @ 21:36 |
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C'mon Pirate bay...
This isn't about censorship. This is about good taste and about respect for people's own privacy.
I lost a lot of respect for them.
Oh really, i guess the police don't give a shit about people's privacy, as the autopsy fell from there hands.
I still think its a ploy, to get people on TPB's bad side. and to some of your posts its working, this story has to many holes
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Solo_Tek
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6. September 2008 @ 21:38 |
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Its Clear!
I am glad I am reading that people agree that these photos should be taken down. I also agree that the photos could not be released without consent. Now did the police do it without the fathers permission or did he sign a paper releasing the photos for whatever reason and not fully read what he was doing. Either way the photos should be removed and this should be investigated by the proper authority.
I remember when I was in Anatomy and Physiology class a few semesters back and we where shown autopsy photos of organs and parts of bodies but the faces where always blackened and at one point we where shown a slide of a deceased fetus. Now mind you these photos were taken with consent of all parties and they knew the photos would be used for teaching and medical advancement. Our professor was an ex corner and did all the autopsies and he was professional about everything. So it can be done just no in this manner and not to this extent. What would anyone want with these photos and what does TPB or the police have to gain from this bad publicity.
Again I am glad to see the wonderful people at AfterDawn have Morals.
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6. September 2008 @ 21:41 |
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The nice/polite thing for TPB to do would definetly be to take the torrent down, but like others have stated this is a internal problem that should be dealt with by the Police Station. For one the parents most definetly could file a personal injury lawsuit against the police department, and two; who in there right mind would knowingly and willingly want to view autopsy photos of 2 small children??
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samus250
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6. September 2008 @ 21:52 |
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I can't imagine how horrible it would be to see pictures of your dead children being spread on the internet. But it seems that the pirate bay's admin's goal is "to let people communicate, exchange information and ideas, without being censored."
I understand that the admins are trying to follow their policy, but I still think it is very wrong not to remove the torrent. This isn't letting "people communicate, exchange information and ideas, without being censored," this is plain wrong. They should really consider in making that torrent an exception.
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lxfactor
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6. September 2008 @ 21:58 |
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first of all if your children are dead.. you did something wrong as a parent.. second of all it isn't about material.. if it was a closed zip file and renamed.. no body would know S**T.. so some nut posted it.. pirate bay has removed zero torrents... from request from anyone.. why start now?.. and why are you looking up things on pirate websites anyways.. don't you have funerals to plan and attend.. im not trying to be a jerk.. but whoever downloads it is sick.. but thats not on us to judge.. it might have been wise to remove it.. but it might have seem as a sign of weakness in the eyes of MPAA/RIAA if it were the first torrent removed.
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samus250
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6. September 2008 @ 22:09 |
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lxfactor:
Your post made me think, and I realized that you are right. The fault is of the person who posted it, not The Pirate Bay. The one who should be asked to remove it is the user who posted it, not them.
And heck, maybe there are thousands of copies in rapidshare and megaupload already, if TPB removes it, nothing is going to change.
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gsuscrazy
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6. September 2008 @ 22:11 |
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lxfactor, you are ignorant. children can, and do die from several factors that have NOTHING to do with bad parenting, anything from cancer to parasitic infections, from weather conditions to war, its your ignorance that is a prime example of the same narrow, ignorant, probably young, outlook on things over at pirate bay, you are soooo wrong for saying that, and I hope one day, you will grow to understand.
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6. September 2008 @ 22:24 |
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first of all if your children are dead.. you did something wrong as a parent
I second gsuscrazy's opinion. From a person who's family has dealt with two miscarriages your post hits my heart.
lxfactor, what would you say to a family whos' unborn baby has a malformed heart!? Would you say...
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...if your children are dead.. you did something wrong as a parent
Yeah, a unborn baby with a heart defect, must be the parents.
In closing, lxfactor....think before you post dumbass.
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atomicxl
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6. September 2008 @ 23:10 |
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Originally posted by samus250:
lxfactor:
Your post made me think, and I realized that you are right. The fault is of the person who posted it, not The Pirate Bay. The one who should be asked to remove it is the user who posted it, not them.
And heck, maybe there are thousands of copies in rapidshare and megaupload already, if TPB removes it, nothing is going to change.
But the pirate bay runs the system.
It doesn't matter if its on other places. To me thats like crack dealers who use the argument, "someone would sell it anyways." Thats not an excuse. Let someone else destroy your community. Don't jump for joy to be the one feeding poison to your neighbors.
The Pirate Bay, kept alive by theft and dead children. These are the people afterdawn users praise and worship.
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6. September 2008 @ 23:43 |
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What they are doing is tasteless. Fuck ehm, so many better trackers out there. Sure content wise others may not be able to compare, but at least there community isn't run by people who think children are okay to be watched when they are getting an autopsy! fucking morons. Sure good for them to fight the MPPA and RIAA, but this is to much.
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riprat
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7. September 2008 @ 00:02 |
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Originally posted by lxfactor:
first of all if your children are dead.. you did something wrong as a parent..
You sir are an ass. My girlfriend just lost her daughter and it had absolutely nothing to do with parenting skills. Tragic things happen all the time to children. I pray nothing ever happens to yours.
I for one will never use TPB again because of this. I have lost all respect for them.
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