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HHH74
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14. September 2008 @ 03:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have something on a DVD+RW and I want to clone it to a DVD+R. I was just wondering what the best program to do this would be? I have tried IMGBurn but, when I choose Create image form disc and hit read disc. An error message comes up: (There doesn't appear to be enough space on the disc to create this image. Would you like to continue anyway?)I have tried it on 3 different computers and they all say the same thing. On one I have 218 GB and on the other one I have 23.1 GB. Looks like that should be enough but, I don't know.

If anyone here know more about this or knows of a different program to use please let me know.
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14. September 2008 @ 04:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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On one I have 218 GB and on the other one I have 23.1 GB.

That's not possible.
Perhaps you meant 218MB?
Are you trying to copy the disc to your HDD?

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HHH74
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14. September 2008 @ 12:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It says the total size is 455 GB and I have 218 GB free space.

Yeah Im trying to copy it to the hard drive then burn it to a different disc.
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14. September 2008 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What do you have selected as your destination?

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HHH74
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14. September 2008 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
What do you have selected as your destination?

The D drive.
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14. September 2008 @ 15:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since it's on a DVD+RW you should be able to just copy it to a folder on your HDD without any software and then try to make an ISO or just burn the files directly with ImgBurn.

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HHH74
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14. September 2008 @ 17:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
Since it's on a DVD+RW you should be able to just copy it to a folder on your HDD without any software and then try to make an ISO or just burn the files directly with ImgBurn.

OK. I have copied it to a folder on the hard drive. Now when I open IMGBurn I choose Write image file to disc. Then where it say Source I choose the file I want to burn to a disc. This is the message I get: Your in the wrong 'Mode' for burning DVD Video files. Switch to 'Build' mode and then try again.

Is that the mode I need to be in?
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14. September 2008 @ 17:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes switch to build mode.
Then on the device tab, choose your burner.

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HHH74
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14. September 2008 @ 18:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
Yes switch to build mode.
Then on the device tab, choose your burner.

I was able to burn it that time. I have a question though. I only have 1 show on the +RW that is 2 hrs long. When I burned it to the +R it says I now have 4 titles on the disc. When I select the next title it takes me back to the main menu. I was just wondering if that's normal or not?
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14. September 2008 @ 18:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like the navigation isn't correct. This can be corrected with PgcEdit but there's a lot of learning needed in order to use the program.
Another thought just came to me. I should have thought of this before. You can open your disc with DVD Shrink and make an ISO.

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14. September 2008 @ 18:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
Sounds like the navigation isn't correct. This can be corrected with PgcEdit but there's a lot of learning needed in order to use the program.
Another thought just came to me. I should have thought of this before. You can open your disc with DVD Shrink and make an ISO.

How would I go about doing that?
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14. September 2008 @ 18:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With DVD Shrink?

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HHH74
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14. September 2008 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
With DVD Shrink?

Yeah with DVD Shrink. Sorry about that man.
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14. September 2008 @ 19:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Open Shrink.
Click on Open Disc.
Click on Backup.
Then you'll see Select backup target.
In the dropdown box you'll see ISO Image File.

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HHH74
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14. September 2008 @ 19:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
Open Shrink.
Click on Open Disc.
Click on Backup.
Then you'll see Select backup target.
In the dropdown box you'll see ISO Image File.

Oh OK. Then do I use IMGBurn to burn it? Or do I use another program?
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14. September 2008 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ImgBurn, yes.

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14. September 2008 @ 23:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
ImgBurn, yes.

I just got finished burning the ISO File to a disc using IMGBurn. When I put the +R disc in my DVD player it is still saying there is 4 titles on the disc. Is there anything else I should try doing to fix this? Or should it be fine the way it is?
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15. September 2008 @ 01:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Although my status shows me as a newbie, that is far from true. I was an avid "member" of Afterdawn back when the original DvdDecrypter first appeared several years ago. Now on to the question at hand. I routinely copy from DVD+RW to DVD+R using DVDShrink and ImgBurn. Simple as pie my friends. Open the RW disk with Shrink. If you notice in the right hand Title List column you will find two of every title on the disk. These are mirror titles. They are exactly the same, as you can tell by the length of play time. Why does a RW disk read like that? I've stopped trying to figure that out long ago. It just does. That's why your two hour movie turns out to be four hours. You copied the same files twice. Drag one of each titleset (not two of the same length)to the lefthand selection column. Click the Backup Tab. Choose create ISO image. You can choose create ISO image and burn with ImgBurn if you have two DVD drives and put your blank disk in the empty drive and choose that destination. Otherwise wait until the ISO is encoded and swap the RW for the +R. Then open ImgBurn, Browse for your saved ISO and burn to +R.
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15. September 2008 @ 01:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's also why your ISO file size would be twice as large.
HHH74
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15. September 2008 @ 01:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Peshtigo:
Although my status shows me as a newbie, that is far from true. I was an avid "member" of Afterdawn back when the original DvdDecrypter first appeared several years ago. Now on to the question at hand. I routinely copy from DVD+RW to DVD+R using DVDShrink and ImgBurn. Simple as pie my friends. Open the RW disk with Shrink. If you notice in the right hand Title List column you will find two of every title on the disk. These are mirror titles. They are exactly the same, as you can tell by the length of play time. Why does a RW disk read like that? I've stopped trying to figure that out long ago. It just does. That's why your two hour movie turns out to be four hours. You copied the same files twice. Drag one of each titleset (not two of the same length)to the lefthand selection column. Click the Backup Tab. Choose create ISO image. You can choose create ISO image and burn with ImgBurn if you have two DVD drives and put your blank disk in the empty drive and choose that destination. Otherwise wait until the ISO is encoded and swap the RW for the +R. Then open ImgBurn, Browse for your saved ISO and burn to +R.

Now, when I open the disc in Shrink there is no Title List in the right hand corner. All that is on the right side is the Audio and Subpicture options. On the left side it has the name of the disc and says Menus and Main Movie. When I select Main Movie another thing comes up that says Title 1,3. When I click that nothing happens. Am I missing something?
Peshtigo
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15. September 2008 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Shrink will automatically open the disk in "Full Disk" mode. Click on the "Reauthor" tab. You will now see the list of titles (1 and 3). They will show the same size and play duration. Drag and drop either title to the lefthand selection column. It doesn't matter which title you choose as they are identicle. Howver,you are going to lose your menus. Shrink will not retain menus in "Reauthor" mode. Now proceed as in my previous posting. If you feel that you absolutely must have menus then you will have to create new ones. The only way to do that is to change your "Backup Target" to "Hard Disk Folder". Make sure to choose "Create VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS subfolders". When you click "OK" you will be ripping your newly reauthored DVD to your harddrive. To create new menus you must now open your new VIDEO_TS folder with different software such as ConvertXtoDVD or TMPGEnc DVD Author 3, neither of which is free. Creating new menus is somewhat labor intensive for a newbie. My advice is that when copying from RW to +R, live without the menus unless you have many hours to kill.
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15. September 2008 @ 11:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Peshtigo:
Shrink will automatically open the disk in "Full Disk" mode. Click on the "Reauthor" tab. You will now see the list of titles (1 and 3). They will show the same size and play duration. Drag and drop either title to the lefthand selection column. It doesn't matter which title you choose as they are identicle. Howver,you are going to lose your menus. Shrink will not retain menus in "Reauthor" mode. Now proceed as in my previous posting. If you feel that you absolutely must have menus then you will have to create new ones. The only way to do that is to change your "Backup Target" to "Hard Disk Folder". Make sure to choose "Create VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS subfolders". When you click "OK" you will be ripping your newly reauthored DVD to your harddrive. To create new menus you must now open your new VIDEO_TS folder with different software such as ConvertXtoDVD or TMPGEnc DVD Author 3, neither of which is free. Creating new menus is somewhat labor intensive for a newbie. My advice is that when copying from RW to +R, live without the menus unless you have many hours to kill.

Thanks for your help man. That worked perfectly.

So, there is no way to get the simple menu that my DVD recorder made?
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15. September 2008 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

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15. September 2008 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No. Not by using Shrink with my tried and true and incredibly easy method. It may be possible to save your original menu using other editing or reauthoring software of which I know nothing about. When I first started I also fretted about losing my standalone DVD recorder menus. After searching endlessly in the Afterdawn forums and guides, as well as in other "video help sites", I finally came to this conclusion: "What's the point?". Do you want to watch the DVD video that you successfully copied, or look at a menu for all of five seconds. Also, in all my searching, not once did I ever come across one article about these duplicate titlesets when copying from DVD+RW. Well, there is one now. By the way, I'm extremely happy to have helped you with your problem. I had to figure it out by myself.
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15. September 2008 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
PgcEdit will also import the menu from the original if that's what you want.

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