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Andrew_H
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16. September 2008 @ 16:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi. My friend sold me a $3 Ironman 720p movie today and it looks great! I want to be able to do the same thing now.

He downloaded the 720p movie off a torent (it was about 4GB) and put it on a normal DVD-5, I don't know how he did it though. (i think he changed the format to AVC or MP4, he wont tell me because he wants more money lol). The movie was split into 2 parts since the PS3 can play only 2GB max at a time.

I know where I can find the torrents to get the 720p movie, but I am lost from there. I want to do this WITHOUT losing any audio/video quality, so it looks perfect on my HDTV.

Also, does anyone know if I could do the same thing for 1080p movies, or would they be too big?

Thanks a lot guys! I love this forum :)

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16. September 2008 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You would be incorrect about the 2gig file size limit. And a 1080p movie ripped to the right video format will fit on a dvd5 if you use the UDF (universal disk format) instead of the normal file systems.

Use this guide to make the videos ps3 compatible:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809

Andrew_H
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16. September 2008 @ 17:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What input format will work with this program?

H.264 or .MKV?

Also, if I changed a 1080p movie into the right format to fit onto a DVD-5, would I lose any video/audio quality?

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16. September 2008 @ 18:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Andrew_H:
What input format will work with this program?

H.264 or .MKV?

Also, if I changed a 1080p movie into the right format to fit onto a DVD-5, would I lose any video/audio quality?
Either formats will work as an input I believe, though I know mkv is for sure. Most of the bluray rips I see on the torrents are mkv's anyway.

The video converter in the guide is near lossless, unfortunately there is no such thing as a truly lossless conversion but that's about as close as it gets.

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16. September 2008 @ 20:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Andrew_H:
What input format will work with this program?

H.264 or .MKV?

Also, if I changed a 1080p movie into the right format to fit onto a DVD-5, would I lose any video/audio quality?
how do u change the bd movie into mkv format
is there any other softy i have ripbot god it takes awfull alot of time i do have quadcore
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16. September 2008 @ 20:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've never ripped a bd myself (no bluray drive yet) so idk which programs can rip bluray, I do however know that it would take a really really long time even with a fast computer; so I wouldn't expect too much better out of another program.

Andrew_H
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16. September 2008 @ 21:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by Andrew_H:
What input format will work with this program?

H.264 or .MKV?

Also, if I changed a 1080p movie into the right format to fit onto a DVD-5, would I lose any video/audio quality?
Either formats will work as an input I believe, though I know mkv is for sure. Most of the bluray rips I see on the torrents are mkv's anyway.

The video converter in the guide is near lossless, unfortunately there is no such thing as a truly lossless conversion but that's about as close as it gets.
ohh okay then

which one is better/ which one do you recommend of the two?
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16. September 2008 @ 21:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've only tried mkv's to be honest, so I dont know which one is better or easier.

Andrew_H
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16. September 2008 @ 21:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the file size limit is not 2GB, then what is it?

Is it 4GB?
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16. September 2008 @ 21:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Andrew_H:
If the file size limit is not 2GB, then what is it?

Is it 4GB?
That was the limit for the divx format, its been fixed since. But that dosent matter because this converter isn't divx.

If the file is over 4gb though you will have to put it on a dvd with a UDF file system like I had said earlier because the ps3 will only read external hdd's and jump drives if they have a fat32 partition which does have a 4gb file size limit.

Andrew_H
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16. September 2008 @ 21:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can you give me a tutorial on how to make a H.624 or a .MKV into a UDF cd?

Can you use TXMUXER?

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16. September 2008 @ 22:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
UDF is the file system for the dvd, its nothing really special. All you ave to do is find where the selector for the file system is on whatever burning software you use and switch it to UDF 2.5

I haven't used TXMUXER myself yet, the only HD movie I wanted had subtitles which it turns out TXMUXER dosen't yet support. It would have been too much work to hardcode the subs and everything else so I'm waiting until they include subtitles in an update.

Andrew_H
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17. September 2008 @ 21:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alright.

Now, can TXmuxer turn my .mkv or my H.264 into a .mp4 and keep the quality?
KajNrig
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17. September 2008 @ 22:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No. It can only mux to those formats it lists (ts, m2ts, Blu-Ray, etc.).
Andrew_H
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18. September 2008 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KajNrig:
No. It can only mux to those formats it lists (ts, m2ts, Blu-Ray, etc.).
Oh okay.

Which format do you suggest I use? I don't really want to burn it so it automatically plays, I just want to store it on a DVD-5 and open it from my PS3

Which format do you suggest? I need the highest quality video/audio possible
KajNrig
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18. September 2008 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, first of all, what video are we talking about now? The 720 or 1080 one?

Anyway, all you have to do is open up tsMuxer, add the stream files you want (if it's an .mkv file, then you'll have all the files you need), and mux it to m2ts.

After muxing it, you can burn it onto a DVD using any program you like. Personally, I'd suggest using ImgBurn, because it's simple and user-friendly.

The PS3 will read the DVD as a Data Disc, and you'll be able to play it from there.

...unless you're saying that the 1080 movie is too big to fit on a regular DVD? If that's the case, you can either re-encode the movie (which loses some video quality) or re-encode the audio (which loses some audio quality) in order to make it fit onto the DVD.

Hope that helps.
Andrew_H
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18. September 2008 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KajNrig:
Well, first of all, what video are we talking about now? The 720 or 1080 one?

Anyway, all you have to do is open up tsMuxer, add the stream files you want (if it's an .mkv file, then you'll have all the files you need), and mux it to m2ts.

After muxing it, you can burn it onto a DVD using any program you like. Personally, I'd suggest using ImgBurn, because it's simple and user-friendly.

The PS3 will read the DVD as a Data Disc, and you'll be able to play it from there.

...unless you're saying that the 1080 movie is too big to fit on a regular DVD? If that's the case, you can either re-encode the movie (which loses some video quality) or re-encode the audio (which loses some audio quality) in order to make it fit onto the DVD.

Hope that helps.
Thanks, that was very informative!

I am talking about a 720p movie i got off a torrent. It came as a bunch of mini .MKV's (about 70 of them). Do I need to somehow combine all of these first with tsMuxer? I wanna know how I can combine them all


Also: Do I necessary HAVE to burn it (by burn, I mean use ImgBurn and burn on a DVD-5), or can I simply click and drag the .m2ts that tsMuxer gives me onto a DVD-5, WITHOUT burning and it would still work on my PS3 (i can just open it?) ?.

thnxxx

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KajNrig
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18. September 2008 @ 23:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...huh... well, you can use the Append feature of tsMuxer. Open the first mkv, Append, open the second, Append, etc. That's really... weird, though. Normal people don't split mkv files into 70 separate chunks.

The Append feature is sort of like... glue. Remember that whole schpeal about how Muxing is like putting something in a package? Well, Append is like gluing two somethings together before putting them in the box.

As for burning... um, I'm not sure what you mean. In order to put ANY sort of data onto a DVD, you HAVE to burn it. I don't understand what you mean by "click and drag" the files. I mean... even if you're putting pictures and Word files and documents onto a DVD, the only way you can get them on there is if you burn it.
Andrew_H
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19. September 2008 @ 17:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay so now I used tsMuxer and I have the .m2ts

1) I split it into 2 .m2ts files, since the PS3 cannot play more than 4GB at once. Was that really necessary or can the pS3 play the entire 4.5GB .m2ts, WITHOUT me splitting it?

2) TsMuxer also gave me a .meta file with my movie. What do I do with this, and do I need it at all?



Also, I guess our definitions of burning are different. When I think of burning, I think of using a program like Nero to burn a movie or something. I guess you also think of it as storing pictures and word documents.

3) To clarify, my question is that do I have to 'burn' the .m2ts using a program such as Nero for it to work on my PS3,

or can I copy and paste the .m2ts onto the DVD-5 from the "My computer" window where the CD shows up, without using a program such as Nero or IMGBURN?

Thanks for the help so far :)
KajNrig
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19. September 2008 @ 18:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1.) You have a few options here. If you want to put it on the PS3's hard drive, you can stream it via media server and save it onto it. (I don't know how, but apparently it's possible.)

You can also store the two files onto a flash drive or whatever, plug it into the PS3 and play.

Or you can burn the two files onto separate DVDs.

While the PS3 can handle files bigger than 4 GB (or so I've heard. ...?), I believe it's the fat32 formatted drives that can't handle anything above 4 GB.

2.) I never bothered with the .meta file. It was too small, and I didn't care enough. I dunno, it might have something important. But the .m2ts has always played fine on my PS3 without an accompanying .meta file.

3.) The only way I know of getting files onto a Disc is by using a burning program.

What you're talking about won't work with a regular DVD+/-R. If you've got a DVD+/-RW (rewritable), it might work. But regular DVDs are "burn once, that's it," so you have to put all the data on at once. Clicking and dragging won't work.

Anyway, to do this, use ImgBurn. Click on "Mode," choose "Build," and click the "Add File" button to browse to your file and choose it. Once you've gotten the files you want, choose to burn the DVD.

But yeah, there's no way to just "click and drag" information to a DVD. They aren't made like flash drives and SD cards and stuff, which use flash memory. They HAVE to be burned in order to store data.
Andrew_H
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19. September 2008 @ 22:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alright. Thanks a lot man, really helpful.

The only problem is that the file is 4.5GB and I need to put it on a 4.3GB DVD-5.

Can IMGBURN compress the file so it can fit onto a DVD5? I prefer to compress the audio over the video, if possible...


thanks! please give me my options here :)
KajNrig
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19. September 2008 @ 23:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No, you'll have to manually fix the audio or video. I dunno which programs to use (I usually just use MeGUI to convert from aac to ac3), but re-encoding the audio at a lower bitrate should do you fine.
Andrew_H
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20. September 2008 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay then

well, Nero has a feature where you can compress a video to fit into a DVD-5. So I think ill just use Nero Recode..

thnx! :)
KajNrig
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20. September 2008 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cool beans. Good luck with Nero. Hope it doesn't screw you over like it always seems to do me.
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28. January 2009 @ 14:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you can use also copytodvd now to burn the blu-ray structure, select the folder in explorer and right click to burn it. it will detect the format automatically and burn it as UDF 2.5 structure.
I just participate to the thread because it always sounds funny that people can't guess the quality of blu-ray couldn't be kept over a DVD without any loss of quality. like if a formula 1 could be also a confortable car and efficient on off-road tracks.
Sure the codec used ( like H264 ) could be more efficient that MPEG2 but in the same time you lose the compatibility with the current DVD player. If you convert a blu-ray to DVD with video converter such as ConvertXtoDVD from VSO then .. sure you will have the compatibility but you will have also the DVD quality and lose the HD quality from blu-ray source.
Things seems to move quickly, with BD rebuilder and maybe some other tools will appear in the market, but sure people needs the equipment first, it means, blu-ray player and burner, home blu-ray player and HD LCD, and ... also good BD-R or BD-RE disc, because it will be the same bad issues about compatibility that the first models of DVD disc.

 
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