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RIAA to sue Ray Beckerman

article published on 18 September, 2008

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has declared that the lawyer Ray Beckerman is a "vexatious litigator" and is now seeking monetary damages in an effort to punish him for his defense of a NY woman in a recent P2P case. Beckerman, one of the few lawyers who defends alleged file sharers, is also a blogger and that point is at the heart of the new case. The RIAA says Ray ... [ read the full article ]

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windsong
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18. September 2008 @ 15:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Someone should introduce the RIAA to Mr. Molotav Cocktail.
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18. September 2008 @ 15:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe the saying is now "If you can't beat them, sue them".

They lost to this man in court and now are attempting to sue him to try and cover themselves.

Maybe they are hoping if the win the case then all cases they lost against him will be overturned.
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18. September 2008 @ 15:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wait a tick...isn't that the exact opposite of what your NOT supposed to do?? your giving the guy a personal reason to cut you down in future trials.....whereas before he was simply interested from a business stand point....
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18. September 2008 @ 15:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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because defendant, her family, and her counsel engaged in a deliberate pattern of misconduct by providing false, misleading, and incomplete information
Isn't that exactly! what the riaa have done ?
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18. September 2008 @ 16:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
C'Mon, you have got to be kidding, LOLLOLOLOLO. The Really Inept Associaton of Analtypes sueing the man who's proven they're a lying bunch of thieves?

I hope the courts see this as what it really is, an attempt to ruin the reputation of the man who successfully proved that their claims were groundless and the amounts claimed as nothing more than extortion. These guys are just pissed because they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar and now the courts are taking their claims with more than a grain of salt. Before the defendent was guilty even if he or she was innocent in the eyes of the R.I.A.A., and their claims that they can sue for hundreds of thousands of dollars without any proof were all shown to be nothing more than lies.

These guys are now running scared and they know their end run around the justice system is coming to an end so they're trying to bring down the very people who beat them at their own game.

I especially love their claims here, "sanctions are appropriate because defendant, her family, and her counsel engaged in a deliberate pattern of misconduct by providing false, misleading, and incomplete information as to the status of defendant?s Internet service in August 2004, who resided in defendant?s home during that time, the identity and location of witnesses with information about the case, and the existence and owner of the computer connected to defendant?s Internet account at the time of infringement. ?Defendant?s misrepresentations caused plaintiffs and the court to waste substantial resources chasing empty leads and ultimately led to the destruction of critical evidence in this case. The actions of defendant and her counsel have caused Plaintiffs to engage in additional discovery at great time and expense, prolonged this litigation unnecessarily, and resulted in the destruction of critical computer evidence severely and irreparably prejudicing plaintiffs? ability to prove their case."

What case? They never had one and they know it. The reason they couldn't get that "information" so crucial to their case is real simple, there was none, but they aren't gonna admit that.

Look at their track record so far, it's all based on illegal hacking by Media Sentry, their so called experts can't tell if there's anything, music or otherwise on the offenders' hard drive. They've been suing anyone they feel they can get away with bullying and harassing on trumped up charges.

What I want to know is why the DOJ is not going after these morons like they did M$.

I sincerely hope that Mr. Beckerman countersues these bums and demands they put their money where their mouths are, cause they don't have any proof against him and this is nothing more than reprisal for kicking their asses in court.
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18. September 2008 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
Maybe the saying is now "If you can't beat them, sue them".


The riaa is admitting defeat. This is the "hail Mary" approach
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18. September 2008 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vexatious?jss=0

So I had no idea what vexatious meant...after looking it up I realize that their complaint is that "he's annoying".

/clap
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18. September 2008 @ 18:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Haha this is the same as you favorite sports team losing and then trying to sue the other team because the other team gave away penalties a few times because they cheated.
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18. September 2008 @ 18:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dont know what kind of drugs the riaa boys are doing but i gotta get me some.lol
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18. September 2008 @ 18:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by aldan:
dont know what kind of drugs the riaa boys are doing but i gotta get me some.lol


Me too !!!

The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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18. September 2008 @ 19:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by aldan:
dont know what kind of drugs the riaa boys are doing but i gotta get me some.lol

Give me some of that also :p

This is just too funny :D :D :D
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18. September 2008 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
These people are the biggest morons around currently. Like who the fuck sues a lawyer for doing his job. Baha, I hope they lose and get a counter suit which they have to pay the court fees because of a ridiculous case.
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18. September 2008 @ 19:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Never in history have I seen or read about an organisation so determined to make itself the most hated entity on the planet - truly breathtaking and worrying.
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18. September 2008 @ 20:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by windsong:
Someone should introduce the RIAA to Mr. Molotav Cocktail.
or the atomic bomb
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18. September 2008 @ 22:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dude, watch the language.

ivymike, neutron bomb is better as it kills the people & leaves the buildings for others to use.
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18. September 2008 @ 23:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sooner or later, The RIAA (& the MPAA) will meet their match and LOSE.

I will be getting drunk when that day arrives.
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19. September 2008 @ 04:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
RIAA: Oh no, we lost and cant destroy an innocent womans life! What can we do?
Sane person: Just forget about it.
RIAA: No, we must sue the lawyer its his fault we lost.
Sane person: Thats just insane, thats what lawyers do, they defend their clients.
RIAA: We must sue everyone! After the lawyer were going to sue the judge and jury too!

Every time i read about the idiotic things riaa/mpaa do i cant stop thinking about what kind of a person comes up with the shit they do? Is it a monkey with a typewriter just hitting random buttons and sometimes making words? Is it a longterm patient of a asylum? Is it a man that was dropped on his head as a baby and is so stupid he even got kicked out of preschool? I just cant imagine a person that would come up with ideas like "lets sue the lawyer for winning against us".
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19. September 2008 @ 05:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Like who the fuck sues a lawyer for doing his job. Baha, I hope they lose and get a counter suit which they have to pay the court fees because of a ridiculous case.
If we are lucky the judge will jail them for contempt of the court and for wasting his time on a frivilous lawsuit. I would also refer Media Sentry to the Attorney general's office ans suggest that the be prosecuted for playing cops without a license as required by the law.

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dont know what kind of drugs the riaa boys are doing but i gotta get me some.lol
No you don't want any of their garbage. The record company's have been infested by a bunch of paranoid cokeheads since the 80's. Nose candy is expensive compared to most other drugs and the RIAA's victims must pay for their filthy drug habits...
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19. September 2008 @ 08:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sound to me like they want to achieve the following:
a) scare off lawyers from defending people getting sued by the RIAA
b) recouperate the costs they made for the trial

That's not what they should be doing. They tried to sue people for illegal downloading but didn't have a strong enough case, lacking legally admissible proof. They should just leave it at that.
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19. September 2008 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:

ivymike, neutron bomb is better as it kills the people & leaves the buildings for others to use.
LOL, this was the funniest thing i ever read.
but seriously.. you wouldn't want a building that people died in.. and doesnt it take a while for the radiation to clear?
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19. September 2008 @ 13:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lxfactor, that radiation does not stay & the bodies can be picked up as soon as they drop dead.
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19. September 2008 @ 14:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
lxfactor, that radiation does not stay & the bodies can be picked up as soon as they drop dead.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

Er..I meant charcoaled RIAA suits.
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19. September 2008 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
lxfactor, that radiation does not stay & the bodies can be picked up as soon as they drop dead.
Actually it's much cleaner isn't it - doesn't damage anything except people.
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19. September 2008 @ 14:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just the immediate buildings get damaged, how much i don't know.
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19. September 2008 @ 14:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nerve gas though, and stuff like that, biological warfare, doesn't do any damage to property, only humans and animals.

Makes sense i suppose, less of a clean up after a war, although it is totally off topic. :)
 
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