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20. September 2008 @ 09:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im going to be building a new pc soon but am unsure of the parts i want to put in.

I know i want Nvdia & Intel but am not too sure of the motherboard/processor i want.

I would only be using the pc for gaming, internet & listening to music & watching films.

I was thinking of getting an Asus board & a quad core (Q6600) processor.

Can anyone recommend a motherboard/processor ?

Any suggestions to GPU, PSU, RAm etc is welcome.


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20. September 2008 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
CPU: Q6600
Motherboard: Asus P5Q Pro/GA-EP45-DS3R/BIOSTAR TPower I45
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 4850/4870
Ram: Corsair Dominator 2x2gb DDR2 1066mhz
PSU: Corsair 620HX
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22. September 2008 @ 06:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nVidia just isn't the right decision this time round.
Abuzar's build is spot on.



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with the things you are doing a fast dual core would suit you IMO
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22. September 2008 @ 23:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
He wants to game, apparently quad cores are quite useful in that area.
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22. September 2008 @ 23:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
not as usefull as you would assume:

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=775&p=16

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For those that play a wide range of games it would seem that the higher clocked Core 2 Duo E6000 and E8000 series processors are still the best value. However games such as Enemy Territory Quake Wars for example, did show reasonable performance advantages when using a Core 2 Quad processor. Therefore, we suggest for those buying high-end graphics cards, such as the GeForce GTX 280, pick up a Core 2 Quad processor while the Core 2 Duo?s are a perfect match for mid-range graphics cards.
one interesting thing (sam note this) that when they did the same test with a 4870X2 games benifited from Quads alot more than duals, and i am sure this is down to CF needing a big overhead due to the CPU "talking" to both GPUs rather than a single GPU card.

this is the reason i think sam made those very impressive increaces.

heres one from a GX2 shoot out

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Moving on, when we published our GeForce 8800 GTX CPU Scaling article back in 2006 we found that this high-end graphics card was being limited by lower clocked Core 2 Duo and Athlon64 X2 processors, at least not nearly as much as we had suspected. However we did make use of some very heavy AA/AF settings back then where as today we have decided to disable these quality settings. The dual-GPU GeForce 9800 GX2 certainly has more power to burn when compared to the GeForce 8800 GTX, and as a result we found that by throwing more and more CPU power at it we continued to receive more and more performance.
so when i said with my 4870 all i would need is an E8600..... i didnt lie. :)

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Except for Crysis, where a dual core will bottleneck you, whether or not you have crossfire.



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http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=775&p=5

Crysis 1920x1200 0xAA 0xAF DX10


Q9650 @ 3.6 :29 FPS
E8400 @ 3.6 :28 FPS

the extra frame could be a rounding up, human error when benching a run, OR most likey the extra 6MB cache.
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Crossfire disabled, Crysis 1920x1200 High DX9:
E4300@3.2: 25fps
Q6600@3.2: 36fps




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let me find one for the 4870 X2, they had an article for that aswell.
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2. October 2008 @ 18:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok cheers guys for the info.
Ill have to look into it more, as im unsure about the motherboard.

I was going to get the Q6600 from Scan for £122 along with the Radeon HD4850/HD4870 but its the motherboard im stuck at.

Im not really bothered about overclocking options as long as its a good board that supports a lot of the latest features.

I have a budget of about £130 - £180 for a motherboard & about £150 - £200 for a graphics card.


Sorry for taking so long to reply guys.

Ill get back to you & let you know how i get on.


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2. October 2008 @ 18:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would get that Biostar. Excellent performance and would be nice to see something different.
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id get the asus maximus II formula as you plan for quads. biostar are superb with duals but flop with quads
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2. October 2008 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is the Maximus II better than the Rampage then? I get lost in the named Asus boards....



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hehe for OCing yes, as P45s are better than the x48s in the OCing department
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2. October 2008 @ 19:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ahh it's a P45, ok, I knew that. Just struck me as odd as I'm sure the original Maximus wasn't a P35?



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2. October 2008 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, well let's try recommending a board cheaper than 280 dollars.

Asus P5Q Pro/GA-EP45-DS3R
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2. October 2008 @ 19:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Edit: I was a noob. With that budget, the Maximus II seems realistic, if perhaps a little unnecessary, just because you can spend doesn't mean you should. But what do I know, I spend even when I can't! lol



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boozer his budget is punds, and i gave him one in about the middle of it.

sam the original was x38.

there was a strike extreme 680, then a striker ii extreme 790i, now a striker ii extreme again but x58, bad naming, not as bad as nvidia though, the new gt1x0 are the 94 anf 7500s re badged, and the gts1x0 are the 9800s rebadged (9800gt and gtx+)

so the G80 is still going strong 2 years later with its 3rd rename :(
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2. October 2008 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man, I'd forgotten how ludicrously expensive the Rampage is. By comparison the Maximus II is a much better value product.



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yo can get the rampage for £180, but imo not worth it over the P45, even with dual gfx, as these cards dont even use the bandwidth of 8x pcie 2.0, there are what, 2-5% diference?
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2. October 2008 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm if he wants a Q6600 then I doubt he wants to get a high end motherboard. Pounds or dollars, it's still a lot more than the other one.
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2. October 2008 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That is a very valid point... Would you tell the difference from an EP45, especially with the new binning of the Q6600s?



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