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EA gets class-action sued over Spore DRM

article published on 25 September, 2008

A class action lawsuit has been filed against Electronics Arts claiming that the publisher is violating California law by hiding the fact that the hit game Spore install SecuROM DRM which is impossible to remove. EA has been under fire since the release of the game on September 7th with many gamers taking exception to the crippling SecuROM DRM which allows for the game to only be installed ... [ read the full article ]

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1bonehead
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25. September 2008 @ 19:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With this lawsuit, and non full disclosure, they got what they deserved. Reminds me of Sony and their root kit virus on their music cds and the investigations by state AGs
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25. September 2008 @ 19:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!
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25. September 2008 @ 20:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can it be true?

Is there to be justice?

YEAH!
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25. September 2008 @ 20:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fantastic!
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25. September 2008 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Finally!!!

I am glad to see this securom Drm should be considered malware and even spyware first No company has the right to monitor what you do on your computer this lawsuit should also contain that it violates the internet protection act because in the internet protection act it says that no one has the right to unlawfully search peoples computers without a warrent but the drm in spore is doing this on a constant basis.
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25. September 2008 @ 22:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
buy spore now! u can join in and win big bucks =D
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25. September 2008 @ 23:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1bonehead
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Reminds me of Sony and their root kit

I believe SecuROM is another quality (cough) product from Sony.

This class action lawsuit is a good thing. Go get em!
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26. September 2008 @ 01:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lxfactor:
buy spore now! u can join in and win big bucks =D

Damn, he's right, ain't he?
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26. September 2008 @ 01:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would have SPORE by now if it weren't for that damn DRM! I am trying to keep this computer totally legit so i am not doing the torrent thing these days! but 3 years ago i would have snagged it up in a second! Another game will get my $50 for there game but it wont be EA today!

Didn't the big giant M$ go threw a lawsuit over IE & not being able to uninstall it quite a while back? then Sony now EA? common guys!

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26. September 2008 @ 04:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What will happen is that SecuROM will be removed from the North American titles for fears of continual law suits, and everywhere else in the world will continue to get shafted, just as UbiSoft did with Starforce DRM, or it will be scaled back to it's previous malware incarnation, or they will continue to sell the titles with the DRM and actually inform customers that the software is only a rental title instead of actively concealing the face so as not to hamper sales.

An addition to the law suits could be the "first sale doctrine" approach, or that SecuROM should have it's own EULA, as it is a separate programme from the main software and because this is not the case SecuROM should be in the Spore's EULA, it should be removed completely with the said software and it should be printed on the Box and web site if purchased from on-line regarding the restrictive licensing.

But hey DRM is just here to be anti-consumer so why do any of these companies give a flying ****?

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26. September 2008 @ 05:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 13thHouR:
But hey DRM is just here to be anti-consumer so why do any of these companies give a flying ****?
Cause now they have just had a massive shit taken on them lol. when will they learn
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26. September 2008 @ 05:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can i donate $ to help this go through?
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26. September 2008 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is great, have fun EA.
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I didn't buy Bioshock for the same reason. Buying original software has turned into a hellish nightmare of forced online product activation, malware infestation, serial number hassles and limited install rights.

This all goes back to the B.S. you find in every game copyright legal notice - which claims that you don't OWN the software you BUY, you only have a license to use it - as they see fit. No wonder DRM is so hated.

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This has to be one of the best examples of why drm doesn't work.

1. First people find out how invasive and anti-consumer the drm is and refuse to buy the game.

2. People who want the game get the BETTER pirated version and some just pirate out of spite or principle (whichever you prefer).

3. After EA's name has been dragged through the mud (more than it usually does) they have a lawsuit filed against them for trying to deceive the consumer.

The real victims in all of this are the game developers that make good sometimes great games that are then strangled with drm and never have a chance to fully reach the marketplace.

Down with EA if they don't learn form this disaster rather quickly then my already negative opinion of them will reach a new low. I'm quite sure many other people feel the same. EA really shot themselves in the foot with this one and if they continue on with business as usual they deserve all the bad press, poor sales numbers, falling stock prices, ect...
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Free malware included at no extra charge, yippee!

Mirror's Edge looks interesting but the first thing that came up on the trailer was the EA logo, eww. I won't be supporting EA, even if there is a console version of the game. Die you bastards!
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Originally posted by lxfactor:
buy spore now! u can join in and win big bucks =D

Damn, he's right, ain't he?
Yeah, but you'd probably be awarded a copy of the game w/o SecureRom or maybe about $10 when the class action suit is settled. Class action suits hurt the company being filed against, but really do not do the consumer justice. The lawyers will be the real winners here. Anyone remember the class action suit against Netflix for the "1-day delivery"?
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Down with EA if they don't learn form this disaster rather quickly then my already negative opinion of them will reach a new low. I'm quite sure many other people feel the same. EA really shot themselves in the foot with this one and if they continue on with business as usual they deserve all the bad press, poor sales numbers, falling stock prices, ect...
Well said. This is a great day in leading to the demise of DRM.
EA is getting what it deserves. First thousands of user complaints, now this. How sweet it is !!!!
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Originally posted by redux79:
This has to be one of the best examples of why drm doesn't work.
But it does work....if you intend to lose money due to piracy, piss off a lot of people, and then have to clean the poop off yourself..
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26. September 2008 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn.. i just bought spore a few weeks ago because I liked the game so much...

no matter all the BS EA pulls for some reason I end up buying something tied in with EA regardless if it console or pc....

oh well
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Busted!
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27. September 2008 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why doesn't it say on the packaging or manual that it permanently installs SecurROM DRM? Surely thats a breach of our T&Cs & our rights as a consumer.

I thought the protection on BioShock (max installs of 5) was bad for us gamers, but all of this just plays into the hands of hackers who come to savour of gamers that have been treated for contempt already. I DARE EA or anyone else to try this trick again.

How about they re-release the game on Steam with all of the draconian protection took completely out?
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Originally posted by champman:
How about they re-release the game on Steam with all of the draconian protection took completely out?
That would make sense, but that is not what EA would want to do. We, the consumers, have complained to them about the DRM, but they are blind (and evidently deaf too), because there have been no significant changes in the DRM. The best thing to do is not purchase any games with this DRM, AND keep voicing it anywhere you can. Tell your friends and family, post it on forums, complain to EA, and complain to any consumer rights group that you can find that may deal with this kind of thing. Corporations don't like for the truth to be exposed highlighting how little they care for their customers.
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Originally posted by champman:
Why doesn't it say on the packaging or manual that it permanently installs SecurROM DRM? Surely thats a breach of our T&Cs & our rights as a consumer.

I thought the protection on BioShock (max installs of 5) was bad for us gamers, but all of this just plays into the hands of hackers who come to savour of gamers that have been treated for contempt already. I DARE EA or anyone else to try this trick again.
If they printed this information on the box they would lose sales, the box looks exactly the same as other retail game for a reason.

It's called "Guilt By Omission"

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Well this is getting very intresting. I think this is a case that may set a precident in this regard for software that install seperate applications without the user knowing the full effects of it.

I feel that the best this is for it to be an option that is part of the software installation process like if you choose a custom installation.
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