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majlesbo
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have a brand new xbox 360 just wanting to know the best fw to use im from the uk
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Donaldo
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 14:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
are you sure it doesn't have a liteon drive ?? most brand new xbox's do...
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guessswho
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 15:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You need to find out which drive like the poster said above. Assuming it is a flashable drive, I would just go with the most up to date ixtreme
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majlesbo
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how do i know if i have a liteon drive ?
and where can i get a game checker
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Donaldo
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 15:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
use this guide

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/man...box_360_dvd.htm

remove the faceplate and peak through hole #3... if you see yellow wires its liteon and you won't be able to hack it yourself...
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goyankees
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 15:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
to find out what drive u have theres several methods but i just go on this site and match the lot number and then u know which u have. cross your fingers before u load the page just in case u have a lite-on ;)

http://www.360drives.com/list/page27?sort=country&desc=1

firmware like the fellas said latest ix

game checker use dvdmulleter (its still beta i think)just google it and youll find it (if thats what u meant; how to check if games are stealthed)


cheers
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guessswho
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 15:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
or just look at the drive tray to begin with and see if you need to check if it is a liteon or benq
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majlesbo
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 15:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
have seen yellow wires it looks lioke benq drive but ill check lot number
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majlesbo
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 15:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how do i know the lot number where do i find it on 360
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majlesbo
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
found it was liteon what can i do now any help whats a drive swap what that entail
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Donaldo
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it entails finding a person who you can pay to do it for you. they need the hardware to extract the key off the lite-on drive and write it to another drive you supply...

the liteon drive itself is basically useless cause they made the firmware readonly... which is why you have to buy another drive.

i'd start looking for someone in your country who offers this service...
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guessswho
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_ 		16. October 2008 @ 22:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Exactly what he said ^^. You can't really do anything with liteon except hope you can get in contact with someone who can swap it out with another drive that you can flash. Sorry man...
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Donaldo
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 02:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i'll tell ya i'm aware of this situation cause i'm actually going through it myself. only difference is that i knew when i bought the xbox that it was likely going to be a liteon drive.

i'm in the U.S. and there are a number of listings on craigslist for people providing this service... however at a premium compared to a regular xbox firmware install. i wasn't comfortable with them though cause it seems impossible to check out how reputable they are...

thankfully i found a place that seems to have a good reputation but beware that this isn't a cheap thing .. the expenses for me::

$40 for brand new samsung xbox replacement drive + shipping
$60 for liteon drive swap service + FW install + return shipping
$20 for shipping to the guy doing it

so in total $120 ...
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killalot
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 06:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I didn?t know this so all new Xbox?s have the liteon drive and the only way is change the drive my sons friend?s Xbox died of death and was going to chuck it in the bin and buy another 1 so could you just take the drive out and put it in the new Xbox and away you go they did fix the overheating problems with the new consoles didn?t they?
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Donaldo
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 15:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by killalot:
 buy another 1 so could you just take the drive out and put it in the new Xbox and away you go
no way it would work like that... it wouldn't even be that simple if the drive wasn't lite-on...

regarding RRoD from what i heard the consoles manufactured after november 2007 have that issue fixed ... but i have no idea if thats true...

really the bigger issue for me is the liteon drive... but thankfully mine is on its way via UPS to the guy doing my drive swap !!
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killalot
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 15:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so you cant take the DVD drive out of the knackered xbox and put it in the new xbox ?
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Donaldo
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by killalot:
 so you cant take the DVD drive out of the knackered xbox and put it in the new xbox ?
no the DVD keys wouldn't match and the xbox wouldnt work
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killalot
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 15:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so when you send it away to someone to drive swap what does he exactly do?
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wabashman
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 16:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
he reads the key from your drive, and flashes it to a new drive so it will work.
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homesick
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the best is ixtreme 1.4 but i would wait until after the new dash update if you are doing it for the first time, rumor has it v.15 is on its way soon.
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killalot
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wabashman:
 he reads the key from your drive, and flashes it to a new drive so it will work.
I see now i understand cheers i take it he takes the eprom off and reads it in a programmer my mate can do that if this is the case
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yuppix
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Which drive is flashable in the newer batch of x360?
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Donaldo
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_ 		17. October 2008 @ 20:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by yuppix:
 Which drive is flashable in the newer batch of x360?
hrmm.. none ?? i dunno what you mean by batch but going by lot #'s you need to go back many lot #'s to find ones that come with BENQ drives...

any lot #'s with manufacturing dates prior to april 2008 may have benq... but nothing recently will... it's all liteon.

what ya need to do is find a store that sells xbox but doesn't sell a lot of them... so they would still have stock from months ago...

this site is helpful too::

http://www.360drives.com/list
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yuppix
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_ 		18. October 2008 @ 06:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Donaldo:
 ... i dunno what you mean by batch...

i was referring to the recent system with board/cell revision, the ones that suppose to be free of the ring of death plague.
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goyankees
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_ 		18. October 2008 @ 16:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The bestbuy over here in puerto rico have the arcade 360s all BENQ'S, since the demand is smaller here than in the us i guess they still stock old ones.

thank you Jesus!!!! ;)
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