User User name Password  
   
Monday 15.9.2025 / 05:17
Search AfterDawn Forums:        In English   Suomeksi   På svenska
afterdawn.com > forums > announcements > news comments > guns n' roses pirate pleads not guilty
Show topics
 
Forums
Forums
Guns N' Roses pirate pleads not guilty
  Jump to:
 
The following comments relate to this news article:

Guns N' Roses pirate pleads not guilty

article published on 21 October, 2008

On August 26th, 27-year-old Kevin Cogill was arrested on suspicion of violating federal copyright laws. FBI agents say Coghill had nine unreleased Guns N' Roses songs on his site in June. The blogger allegedly had been streaming songs from the still unreleased new Guns N' Roses album "Chinese Democracy" on his site for some time. Coghill, despite admitting twice in writing to the ... [ read the full article ]

Please read the original article before posting your comments.
Posted Message
windsong
Member

1 product review
_
21. October 2008 @ 16:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"Coghill, despite admitting twice in writing to the FBI that he was guilty, pleaded not guilty in court today."

That is what the Feds call a "knock and talk". They do the same for child porn downloaders. They get you to start gabbing in an attempt to get out of being arrested (while your confessing, the arrest warrant is in the Fed officer's back pocket). They tell you "it will be easier for you if you write out an apology (also considered a confession letter). Apologies can only hurt you in court. Juries ALWAYS convict on apology letters.

You dont talk to the police without a lawyer, and certainly NEVER without asking first if youre being arrested. The cops exist only for the cops. They dont care if youre guilty or innocent.
Advertisement
_
__
slickwill
Member
_
21. October 2008 @ 18:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
^
Yeah, I agree with you 100 percent. They also call interrogations "interviews".....LOL...totally takes out the negative connotation associated with word interrogation.

This guy was probably under a lot of pressure and forgot his 5th Amendment right.
Senior Member

11 product reviews
_
22. October 2008 @ 10:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
after this:
"despite admitting twice in writing to the FBI that he was guilty"

what are the odds of him not going to jail? Kinda of stupid on his part for saying he is guilty, then changing his mind.
TSRSteve
Newbie
_
22. October 2008 @ 10:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here is a video of a cop and a law professor that explains why you should never speak to police. Although it would be hard not to under that amount of pressure. I guess people always feel compelled to defend themselves when they're questioned.


Law professor and cop agree: never ever ever ever ever ever ever talk to the cops about a crime, even if you're innocent.
Junior Member
_
22. October 2008 @ 12:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
Guns N' Roses added that they do not condone Coghill's actions, but that their real "interest is in the original source" of the material.
LOL...they have a "leak" in their organization!
Cheers!
slickwill
Member
_
22. October 2008 @ 19:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by TSRSteve:
Here is a video of a cop and a law professor that explains why you should never speak to police. Although it would be hard not to under that amount of pressure. I guess people always feel compelled to defend themselves when they're questioned.


Law professor and cop agree: never ever ever ever ever ever ever talk to the cops about a crime, even if you're innocent.
Thanks for posting that video. I had watched it before, but watched it again as a refresher.
1Adonis4u
Suspended due to non-functional email address
_
23. October 2008 @ 10:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for posting that video; it is awesome!
Member
_
23. October 2008 @ 17:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by TSRSteve:
Here is a video of a cop and a law professor that explains why you should never speak to police. Although it would be hard not to under that amount of pressure. I guess people always feel compelled to defend themselves when they're questioned.


Law professor and cop agree: never ever ever ever ever ever ever talk to the cops about a crime, even if you're innocent.
Yea I have that bookmarked. Awesome lecture. I really like the stuff on the fifth amendment.
windsong
Member

1 product review
_
23. October 2008 @ 18:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also remember that when/if you are ever in that room with the police and have already stated you will remain silent...they will lie to you and tell you that you're already guilty/we're just trying to save you thousands in legal fees/doesn't matter if you go limp and silent/yada yada. Don't fall for it. Cops lie all of the time and its technically not illegal to do so..they have quotas to meet. The more arrests/prosecutions they get, the more funding they receive as well as making themselves look good to the public.

Seems their lying backfired with this guy:
http://www.firefightingnews.com/article-US.cfm?articleID=55158
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRIY_Q-HlG4
AfterDawn Addict

1 product review
_
23. October 2008 @ 19:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by TSRSteve:
Here is a video of a cop and a law professor that explains why you should never speak to police. Although it would be hard not to under that amount of pressure. I guess people always feel compelled to defend themselves when they're questioned.


Law professor and cop agree: never ever ever ever ever ever ever talk to the cops about a crime, even if you're innocent.

Watched it. Incredible. Thank God for the Fifth Amendment

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


Member
_
24. October 2008 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What a dumn human being, if he wrote that he is guilty who with a intelligent mind would plead innocent after that? That is a suicide for a few more years in prison.
scorpNZ
AfterDawn Addict

4 product reviews
_
31. October 2008 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Depends if it was under duress & can be proven after all we don't know if there was a bargain "plead guilty & sign confession for a get out of jail free card"
Advertisement
_
__
 
_
heraldsun
Member
_
31. October 2008 @ 15:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by windsong:
"Coghill, despite admitting twice in writing to the FBI that he was guilty, pleaded not guilty in court today."

That is what the Feds call a "knock and talk". They do the same for child porn downloaders. They get you to start gabbing in an attempt to get out of being arrested (while your confessing, the arrest warrant is in the Fed officer's back pocket). They tell you "it will be easier for you if you write out an apology (also considered a confession letter). Apologies can only hurt you in court. Juries ALWAYS convict on apology letters.

You dont talk to the police without a lawyer, and certainly NEVER without asking first if youre being arrested. The cops exist only for the cops. They dont care if youre guilty or innocent.
He may have a master plan up his sleeve :)
afterdawn.com > forums > announcements > news comments > guns n' roses pirate pleads not guilty
 

Digital video: AfterDawn.com | AfterDawn Forums
Music: MP3Lizard.com
Gaming: Blasteroids.com | Blasteroids Forums | Compare game prices
Software: Software downloads
Blogs: User profile pages
RSS feeds: AfterDawn.com News | Software updates | AfterDawn Forums
International: AfterDawn in Finnish | AfterDawn in Swedish | AfterDawn in Norwegian | download.fi
Navigate: Search | Site map
About us: About AfterDawn Ltd | Advertise on our sites | Rules, Restrictions, Legal disclaimer & Privacy policy
Contact us: Send feedback | Contact our media sales team
 
  © 1999-2025 by AfterDawn Ltd.

  IDG TechNetwork