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23. October 2008 @ 19:59 |
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Alright, so I'm right about to order the PCU, and I'm confused. I'm not a gamer, and the only things I do on my computer is internet, alot of multi-tasking and other general stuff. But I'm confused between a Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Wolfdale 3.33GHz, and a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz. Both will be over-clocked to 4.1GHz and 3GHz consecutively. I know that Quad CPUs aren't in use that much yet, because a lot of things aren't compatible with it, and that's the first minus I have about the quad. I know that Dual can run anything, since I've tested them out myself. When I do like to try out a game, I'd like it to run with no problems, and I'd like to be able to modify it how I want to.
Now, judging by what I said, what do you think will be a better one in the long shot? I've heard people say Quad, becuase of the crazy multi-tasking, but also Dual, because of the awesome compatibility. AND, on an overall basis, what would be more powerful and be able to run more things at the same time?
I've always wondered, why do people say that some games don't work with Quad? What games don't work with Quad?
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23. October 2008 @ 20:11 |
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I have the Q6600 and I love it. It runs like butter and I've yet to even start to OC it. Not a lot of games utilize quad cores to a great extent. If you run crysis you'll notice the higher usage but not much else. As the industry progresses you'll see more and more software/games taking advantage of the quads.
However in your case if the majority of your computer usage is just multi-tasking you'll probably notice more of a benefit from the higher clocks that you can get with the C2D's.
I believe the Q6600 is basically the same technology as the E8400 so with the E8600 you'd be sitting pretty. Really neither is a bad choice.
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23. October 2008 @ 20:56 |
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But ain't I going to kill my CPU really quickly if I OC it that much and I NEVER close my computer. =/ I don't need for any games, just something that will let me multi-task like a madman.
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24. October 2008 @ 12:11 |
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All games work with Quad however, since 98% of them only use two cores it would make it pointless to buy a Quad processor for gaming.
You would be better off with the E8600 because it is a 45nm processor meaning it will save power of course, and keep your system temperatures low while you are multi tasking like mad in that monstruous 3.33 Ghz processor.
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24. October 2008 @ 17:34 |
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On a multi-tasking level, excluding gaming quality, on witch CPU could I do more multi-tasking? I need to have alot of things at the same time, but nothing like PS or video-editting software, and which one would be better in the long run.
ALSO, which sounds more performing?
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24. October 2008 @ 17:43 |
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If it's between the E8600 and the Q6600 then, hands down the E8600 would be much better. On the other hand I have a Q9450 and I wouldn't change it for any Dual Core in existence, but that's my own opinion, of course.
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24. October 2008 @ 17:54 |
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So, I should go with the Dual then? I'm really confused about this, because I have all the other parts ready to be bought, but I'm wasting so much time because of the damn CPU. I need powerful, easily over-clockable, and alright quality. Both have their pros and cons, and I'm about to go insane.
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24. October 2008 @ 18:12 |
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Originally posted by floss313:
On the other hand I have a Q9450 and I wouldn't change it for any Dual Core in existence, but that's my own opinion, of course.
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24. October 2008 @ 18:17 |
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45nm CPU's like the E8600 are not as easily overclockable as 65nm CPU's like the Q6600. But at 3.33 Ghz per core(E8600) Why would you need that much overclocking? The Q6600 is a beast of an overclocker but that type of technology has been overtaken. Financially and Technology wise the E8600 would be a much better investment.
As far as your quote is concerned:
"I need powerful, easily over-clockable, and alright quality."
This sounds like a Q6600 type of comment.
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24. October 2008 @ 18:30 |
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I heard people say that OC'ing your PCU shortens the lifespan. I was wondering how much time will I be killing by OC'ing it to a 2.8~2.9GHz stable? I have the Antec Nine Hundred case and a 650Watts PSU, 4GB of RAM, just as the main components, also a GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L, if that helps.
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24. October 2008 @ 18:41 |
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At 2.8 2.9 it won't die out any time soon. Don't worry.
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24. October 2008 @ 18:44 |
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Why I'm afraid that it will die quickly, is because I very...very rarely close my computer. It's open when i'm at school, or at work, or even when I'm sleeping. Would it survive say, 1-2 years, never being closed?
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24. October 2008 @ 19:12 |
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Much, much longer than that.
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24. October 2008 @ 19:47 |
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Ok goodies, can you just suggest a good fan and heatsink? Something to help it keep cool if I ever want to over-clock it more than 2.8GHz.
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24. October 2008 @ 20:23 |
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Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
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24. October 2008 @ 20:24 |
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I can't find it on NewEgg, how much is it about?
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24. October 2008 @ 20:43 |
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*Intel® Core?2 Quad Processor Q9450 (12M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB) laid with Shinetsu Microsis Thermal Paste***** Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with 2 x Scythe "S-FLEX?" S-FDB 120mm Quiet FAN (SFF21G)(1900 RPM)***** GigaByte EX38-DS4 with F6C AHCI BIOS***** OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 2x2 GB***** 2 x MSI R3870X2-T2D1G in Crossfire Mode***** Antec Twelve Hundred with 2 x Scythe "S-FLEX?" S-FDB 120mm Quiet FAN (SFF21F)(1600 RPM)as optional fans***** PSU Coolermaster Real Power Pro 1250W (RS-C50-EMBA-D2)***** 5 x Samsung Spinpoint 1TB (HD103UJ)(3 on RAID 5 Win 7 X64 and 2 on RAID 0 Win XP X64)***** Pioneer DVR-215D***** Monitor 1 Hannspree Verona 22" Widescreen Monitor (1680x1050)***** Monitor 2 Sony Bravia KDL-46W4500 46" (1920x1080)* |
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24. October 2008 @ 20:45 |
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Is there anything else I should be getting for a better cooling?
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24. October 2008 @ 21:14 |
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A good man in this very same forum recommended me the Scythe S-FLEX 120mm Fan (1600 RPM, SFF21F) to go with the above mentioned heat sink.
You might want to get the two optional fans for your 900 also.
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24. October 2008 @ 21:21 |
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Hopefully that 80$ investment will help my computer stay super cool and quiet, and thanks alot for helping me. I'm not alot more sure about my CPU and how to cool is properly.
BTW, how much OC'ing will I be able to do on the Q6600? Will I ever be able to reach 3.2GHz without completely killing my computer?
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24. October 2008 @ 21:53 |
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Easily 3.6. With silly cooling expenditure 4.3 I have come across.
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24. October 2008 @ 22:19 |
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So I can go from a 2.4GHz to a 3.6GHz...? Holy camoly! So with that fan and heatsink, and with the RAM, mobo and case I have, I'll be able to do that, without harming my CPU too much?
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24. October 2008 @ 22:46 |
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Perhaps 3.4 would be suitable when you say "without harming the CPU too much".
Antec 900, 2 optional Antec fans, Thermalright 120+Scythe SFF21F, you can't go wrong.
I have the above components in my rig and i have had idle CPU temperature of 17 degrees celsius. Of course Q9450 (45nm).
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24. October 2008 @ 22:50 |
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A 3.4GHz QUAD just sounds insane, almost crazy. My current computer is so horrible, that anything is better. I just can't wait to get everything this Wednesday, and get to work! Right now, -anything- laggs my computer. I can't take this anymore. I have a somewhat limited budget right now, but I'm still working, and will be upgrading my computer as time goes by. What do you suggest changing later on, to get more juice out of it? I'm thinking the graphics card, then mobo, then...no idea.
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24. October 2008 @ 23:17 |
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In my opinion it is only beneficial to upgrade components in computers when we have maxed out performance with the current ones. It is also a good learning process.
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