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hello619
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16. November 2008 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello, I am kind of new to this and i could use some suggestions.

So far i've come up with this.

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811215006

RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145198

Monitor- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009157

Radeon 4870x2- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131116

Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157129

I can't decide which processor to get, any suggestions would be helpful.

Processor w/power supply combo

E8600- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115054
Q9550- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041

I heard the E8600 is better for gaming, but I wanted to be sure.

Open to all suggestions, thanks.

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17. November 2008 @ 06:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You will find a Q6600 with epic cooling puts all others to shame. It's a lot cheaper, and can be overclocked to 4ghz+.




hello619
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17. November 2008 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Will i need a better heatsink or will the one that comes w/ the CPU be good enough? Also, how long would you expect the life to be?

Here is another Case i found, are the fans good enough?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...Tpk=antec%20900

Are all of the other parts ok?

thank you.

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17. November 2008 @ 09:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
since you are using a 4870x2 you dont need an expensive x48 board so you can get an cheaper p45. the e8600 will get a few more fps but it will not make much difference. i would not get a daul core for gaming right now because game are really starting to become multithreaded.

mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358
ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122
psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115018
cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154001

if you have more money to spend you could also get the new core i7 that was released today.

cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130216
ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145221
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231223

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hello619
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17. November 2008 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is there an advantage for the core i7 over the core 2 quad?

Same w/ DDR3 over DDR2?

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17. November 2008 @ 19:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
core i7 is faster than core 2. it also has a big advantage when doing multimedia stuff like ripping dvd's. ddr3 does not currently have any major speed benefit over ddr2. but a core i7 system will be faster. so if you want to spend the extra money to get the new faster system you can. or you can spend less on a core 2 and upgrade later.

GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
Steam name = "krj15489" alias = Jordan-k
hello619
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17. November 2008 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can the core i7 be overclocked to 3.0Ghz+?

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17. November 2008 @ 20:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes. i have seen the 920 get to 4ghz. im not sure if that is on air or water. here is a screen shot. you can expect to get it to 3.4-3.8.

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_image...-i7-920/1-4.png

GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
Steam name = "krj15489" alias = Jordan-k
hello619
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18. November 2008 @ 08:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With the Antec 900 and the cooler you suggested would i be able to overclock the i7 to the speeds you mentioned?

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18. November 2008 @ 08:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that cooler wont work for i7. only for core2. i7 uses a different socket and needs a different heat sink.

GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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19. November 2008 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From what I've read, the i7 920 is generally not stable at 4Ghz, the highest speed I'd really recommend 24/7 is 3.6Ghz.

Do not concern yourself with i_am_alex's post, he doesn't know what he's talking about :P
I've owned both the Q6600 and Q9550, new Q6600s will not run stable beyond 3.4Ghz, the Q9550 is good for around 3.6, 3.8 if you find an E0 stepping chip.

That's all I really need to add, krj's advice is solid, as always.



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19. November 2008 @ 12:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by i_am_alex:
You will find a Q6600 with epic cooling puts all others to shame. It's a lot cheaper, and can be overclocked to 4ghz+.
He really means 3GHz+

Edit: Yeah, what Sam said above me.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 19. November 2008 @ 12:07

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19. November 2008 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As it happens, the older ones could be overclocked to about 4.1-4.2Ghz, but you needed watercooling, an outrageous (and unsustainable) voltage to do it, and they'd only be stable enough to 3dmark, not to run all the time. They'd only run at 3.6Ghz 24/7, and the newer ones won't even make that.



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