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Fw1.5 anyone know any details or even if its really coming
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mrgreaper
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25. November 2008 @ 20:54 |
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ok we have all seen vague references to ixtreme 1.5, half of me is waiting to spoof my liteon drive once this comes out but i have seen nothing official regarding any inpending release and if it does the stuff i have seen people saying its going to do then im guessing 1.6 will raise the dead and wash your car
so whats known officaly?
please only post if your a senior member or a mod or are linking to reliable info, lets try and cut through the rumours and see if theres firmware in them there computers :)
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fgamer
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26. November 2008 @ 10:01 |
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Originally posted by mrgreaper:
ok we have all seen vague references to ixtreme 1.5, half of me is waiting to spoof my liteon drive once this comes out but i have seen nothing official regarding any inpending release and if it does the stuff i have seen people saying its going to do then im guessing 1.6 will raise the dead and wash your car
so whats known officaly?
please only post if your a senior member or a mod or are linking to reliable info, lets try and cut through the rumours and see if theres firmware in them there computers :)
There has been absolutely no reference to a 1.5 firmware by any reputable source. So pretty much the people refering to 1.5 are making it up, or pretty much assuming. C4EVA said themselves that Microsoft isn't using any new detection methods when they performed a scan. So if there's no new way Microsoft is detecting, then why would they need to release a 1.5 firmware. From the looks of things it seems to be bad copies that are being detected and setting of red flags to Microsoft. So honestly, waiting on a "1.5" firmware that hasn't even been nearly mentioned yet from the folks that make them seems a lil silly. You'd be waiting forever. And also, C4EVA even said themselves that it's most likely due to bad copies of games.
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mrgreaper
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26. November 2008 @ 10:52 |
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Originally posted by fgamer:
Originally posted by mrgreaper:
ok we have all seen vague references to ixtreme 1.5, half of me is waiting to spoof my liteon drive once this comes out but i have seen nothing official regarding any inpending release and if it does the stuff i have seen people saying its going to do then im guessing 1.6 will raise the dead and wash your car
so whats known officaly?
please only post if your a senior member or a mod or are linking to reliable info, lets try and cut through the rumours and see if theres firmware in them there computers :)
There has been absolutely no reference to a 1.5 firmware by any reputable source. So pretty much the people refering to 1.5 are making it up, or pretty much assuming. C4EVA said themselves that Microsoft isn't using any new detection methods when they performed a scan. So if there's no new way Microsoft is detecting, then why would they need to release a 1.5 firmware. From the looks of things it seems to be bad copies that are being detected and setting of red flags to Microsoft. So honestly, waiting on a "1.5" firmware that hasn't even been nearly mentioned yet from the folks that make them seems a lil silly. You'd be waiting forever. And also, C4EVA even said themselves that it's most likely due to bad copies of games.
thats what i was thinking, i do renember a post on xbox scene before i was suspended (with no reason giving till 12 december) from c4eva stating what you said above but with out the abilitie to view xbox scene i couldnt see if anything new was suggested lol oh well i got a day off 2morro i may spoof my drive then
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26. November 2008 @ 11:03 |
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ok... here's the info.
There will be a version 1.5, but there is no eta yet on release date. THe main reason for 1.5 firsmware update is NOT because any new detection methods are done (although he hasn't confirmed it yet since the new nxe, but I would assume if there was one, we would be banned by now and/or the news would have been posted all over), but the reason for it is spoofing drives.
The different drives read the security sector files differently (i.e. a hitachi will read a ss file differently than a samsung on a game). But the Benq is said to read it exactly the same as the liteon (which is why people say when swapping out a liteon, use a benq).
So what the new firmware would do is, if you swap the drive from lets say a hitachi to a sammy, it would return a SS that the HITACHI would have read, not what the Samsung is reading. This is to obviously help with tricking the 360 into thinking it has that original drive still in it.
Now this is not all inclusive, but this is what is accepted as what is coing in the IRC #fw channel, and through multiple other forums.
So again, NO ETA! Don't ask that, but if you have any other ?'s, feel free to ask, I'll answer what I know.
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mrgreaper
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26. November 2008 @ 11:17 |
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Originally posted by guessswho:
ok... here's the info.
There will be a version 1.5, but there is no eta yet on release date. THe main reason for 1.5 firsmware update is NOT because any new detection methods are done (although he hasn't confirmed it yet since the new nxe, but I would assume if there was one, we would be banned by now and/or the news would have been posted all over), but the reason for it is spoofing drives.
The different drives read the security sector files differently (i.e. a hitachi will read a ss file differently than a samsung on a game). But the Benq is said to read it exactly the same as the liteon (which is why people say when swapping out a liteon, use a benq).
So what the new firmware would do is, if you swap the drive from lets say a hitachi to a sammy, it would return a SS that the HITACHI would have read, not what the Samsung is reading. This is to obviously help with tricking the 360 into thinking it has that original drive still in it.
Now this is not all inclusive, but this is what is accepted as what is coing in the IRC #fw channel, and through multiple other forums.
So again, NO ETA! Don't ask that, but if you have any other ?'s, feel free to ask, I'll answer what I know.
if you were me and had the following systems
1)dead 360 with hitachi drive 47dj (very dead and banned) drive is ok
2)baned 360 samsung ms28
3)live enabled(god knows how it escaped the hammer) samsung ms not 28 (cant renember the number but know its not ms28)
4)brand new 360 liteon drive (key read with xtractor and spear)
would you risk spoofing it with the hitachi (im guessing from what you wrote that would be a bad idea, but maybe ms aint looking at how the ss arrives just if its valid) or would you wait (im leaning towards waiting but dont see much point if spoofed drives are not being detected)
i am however doing a mates 360 friday (spoofing his benq for a liteon system) but if i understand your post correctly that will be fine
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26. November 2008 @ 11:24 |
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Swapping out the liteon drive for a benq is fine, and the safest option right now.
I don't know what you mean by wait for your liteon drive? If you mean wait until you could get a benq, then sure. If possible I would do that. However, I have heard of people swapping out the liteon with sammys or so and they were also fine. But Benq is the safest option right now.
If you're thinking of waiting because of a flashing option for a liteon, you've got a while. Right now, we are able to read the key off of the liteon drive, but NOT the firmware. The firmware dump is what is needed to be able to make a hacked firmware. It's been discovered that you can flash to the liteon drive, but still, without being able to dump the legit fw to make a hacked fw, there is nothing we could flash the liteon with.
With that being said, s4eva keeps coming on every once in a while to say he is having success with the liteon, but there is obviously no eta on that.
So right now is a waiting game. Best bet is to get a benq drive if you can and swap out your liteon for it.
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mrgreaper
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26. November 2008 @ 11:31 |
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Originally posted by guessswho:
Swapping out the liteon drive for a benq is fine, and the safest option right now.
I don't know what you mean by wait for your liteon drive? If you mean wait until you could get a benq, then sure. If possible I would do that. However, I have heard of people swapping out the liteon with sammys or so and they were also fine. But Benq is the safest option right now.
If you're thinking of waiting because of a flashing option for a liteon, you've got a while. Right now, we are able to read the key off of the liteon drive, but NOT the firmware. The firmware dump is what is needed to be able to make a hacked firmware. It's been discovered that you can flash to the liteon drive, but still, without being able to dump the legit fw to make a hacked fw, there is nothing we could flash the liteon with.
With that being said, s4eva keeps coming on every once in a while to say he is having success with the liteon, but there is obviously no eta on that.
So right now is a waiting game. Best bet is to get a benq drive if you can and swap out your liteon for it.
ah what i ment was if you were me would you spoof the hitachi drive, the samsung drive (this would render the banned360 driveless) or wait for the 1.5fw which could be months away ?
the spoofing shouldnt be hard thanks to others on this forum advising me as to what devices to get i have the 3 files off the drive (inquiry.bin key.bin etc) just dont know reather to risk it
thank you for the replys it is appreciated (though i might not get access to this site till 0100 gmt as im off to work 5 minutes ago lol)
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26. November 2008 @ 11:42 |
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honestly, I would probably just spend the money on a benq
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26. November 2008 @ 13:03 |
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Originally posted by guessswho:
Swapping out the liteon drive for a benq is fine, and the safest option right now.
I don't know what you mean by wait for your liteon drive? If you mean wait until you could get a benq, then sure. If possible I would do that. However, I have heard of people swapping out the liteon with sammys or so and they were also fine. But Benq is the safest option right now.
If you're thinking of waiting because of a flashing option for a liteon, you've got a while. Right now, we are able to read the key off of the liteon drive, but NOT the firmware. The firmware dump is what is needed to be able to make a hacked firmware. It's been discovered that you can flash to the liteon drive, but still, without being able to dump the legit fw to make a hacked fw, there is nothing we could flash the liteon with.
With that being said, s4eva keeps coming on every once in a while to say he is having success with the liteon, but there is obviously no eta on that.
So right now is a waiting game. Best bet is to get a benq drive if you can and swap out your liteon for it.
OK, that's a little confusing as reports are that the Lite-On drives are NOT flashable because they have a "read-only" rom. So what do you mean "it has been discovered that you can flash to a Lite-ON?" From my understanding, if something has a "read-only" rom chip, there is no flashing capable. What source did you get that bit of info from, because I think that would be news to everybody, "IF" it were true..which I doubt!
Anyways, "mrgreaper" at this point being concerned with spoofing is minor, because most of the bans to people's consoles have been regular non-spoofed consoles. My BenQ 360 was banned, probably due to bad games, it was the original drive to that console. But I think Microsoft either knows of every modder (and chooses to ban so many) or go by the amount of flags your console sets off when you play a bogus game. Either way it goes, I don't think we'll ever know unless some Microsoft rep deflects and goes on a internet rampage spreading insider info. (highly unlikely)
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26. November 2008 @ 13:27 |
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The liteon can be flashed, the source came frim within the IRC #fw channel, where the firmware development talks are. One of the guys in charge has said:
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[10:06] KarateBob: liteon can be flashed just fine
[10:06] Booyah: /mode #fw +b *!*@*
[10:06] KarateBob: we just need a firmware
As one of the head "mods" there, I am going to take him at his word.
Other people were also agreeing that it can be done, no one said anything like "you're an idiot, that's not true, or so".
So, like I said before, it appears it can be flashed, but we just don't have a firmware to flash it with, because we can't dump the original firmware to make a hacked fw.
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26. November 2008 @ 15:56 |
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Originally posted by guessswho:
The liteon can be flashed, the source came frim within the IRC #fw channel, where the firmware development talks are. One of the guys in charge has said:
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[10:06] KarateBob: liteon can be flashed just fine
[10:06] Booyah: /mode #fw +b *!*@*
[10:06] KarateBob: we just need a firmware
As one of the head "mods" there, I am going to take him at his word.
Other people were also agreeing that it can be done, no one said anything like "you're an idiot, that's not true, or so".
So, like I said before, it appears it can be flashed, but we just don't have a firmware to flash it with, because we can't dump the original firmware to make a hacked fw.
I'm still gonna take that with a grain of salt, because I thought as long as you have the drive key you can pretty much inject that into a hacked firmware to come out with a working hacked drive. I just don't understand why they're not explaining to everyone that it can be flashed, I guess I would expect something like that to be on Xbox-Scene since most people now are only getting those nasty Lite-On drives.
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28. November 2008 @ 14:30 |
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Originally posted by fgamer:
Originally posted by guessswho:
The liteon can be flashed, the source came frim within the IRC #fw channel, where the firmware development talks are. One of the guys in charge has said:
Quote:
[10:06] KarateBob: liteon can be flashed just fine
[10:06] Booyah: /mode #fw +b *!*@*
[10:06] KarateBob: we just need a firmware
As one of the head "mods" there, I am going to take him at his word.
Other people were also agreeing that it can be done, no one said anything like "you're an idiot, that's not true, or so".
So, like I said before, it appears it can be flashed, but we just don't have a firmware to flash it with, because we can't dump the original firmware to make a hacked fw.
I'm still gonna take that with a grain of salt, because I thought as long as you have the drive key you can pretty much inject that into a hacked firmware to come out with a working hacked drive. I just don't understand why they're not explaining to everyone that it can be flashed, I guess I would expect something like that to be on Xbox-Scene since most people now are only getting those nasty Lite-On drives.
You're right with this statement, but wrong in your overall point.
It has been said that it is obviously possible to get the key off of the liteon drive. And it is possible to flash onto the drive. So you are correct, all you would need to do is put the key into a hacked firmware. HOWEVER, there is no hacked firmware for the liteon yet.
The reason there is no hacked firmware is because (as far as we know) it hasn't been possible to extract the default firmware from the liteon. Obviously, you would need the default fw in order to create a hacked version of the fw.
So that's the issue according to the hears of the #fw channel. It can be flashed, but since the fw can't be extracted, there is no hacked firmware.
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28. November 2008 @ 17:58 |
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Originally posted by guessswho:
Originally posted by fgamer:
Originally posted by guessswho:
The liteon can be flashed, the source came frim within the IRC #fw channel, where the firmware development talks are. One of the guys in charge has said:
Quote:
[10:06] KarateBob: liteon can be flashed just fine
[10:06] Booyah: /mode #fw +b *!*@*
[10:06] KarateBob: we just need a firmware
As one of the head "mods" there, I am going to take him at his word.
Other people were also agreeing that it can be done, no one said anything like "you're an idiot, that's not true, or so".
So, like I said before, it appears it can be flashed, but we just don't have a firmware to flash it with, because we can't dump the original firmware to make a hacked fw.
I'm still gonna take that with a grain of salt, because I thought as long as you have the drive key you can pretty much inject that into a hacked firmware to come out with a working hacked drive. I just don't understand why they're not explaining to everyone that it can be flashed, I guess I would expect something like that to be on Xbox-Scene since most people now are only getting those nasty Lite-On drives.
You're right with this statement, but wrong in your overall point.
It has been said that it is obviously possible to get the key off of the liteon drive. And it is possible to flash onto the drive. So you are correct, all you would need to do is put the key into a hacked firmware. HOWEVER, there is no hacked firmware for the liteon yet.
The reason there is no hacked firmware is because (as far as we know) it hasn't been possible to extract the default firmware from the liteon. Obviously, you would need the default fw in order to create a hacked version of the fw.
So that's the issue according to the hears of the #fw channel. It can be flashed, but since the fw can't be extracted, there is no hacked firmware.
OK, i see.
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