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9. December 2008 @ 09:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
efuses deal with the kernel version running in the 360, not the dvd drive firmware. So yes, you are able to revert back to your original firmware from 1.5 (when it releases).

But yes, it's been accepted, that once you flash it, it is possible that MS could detect your fw, even if you flash back to original.

Now how likely is it? Well it depends on the games you play, and everything like that. If you were to take a new 360, flash the drive to ixtreme, then flash back to original fw, chances are, you would not get banned. It would say it is highly unlikely.

But, the second the fw is changed, everyone in the "scene" assumes that it is possible

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9. December 2008 @ 10:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by guessswho:
efuses deal with the kernel version running in the 360, not the dvd drive firmware. So yes, you are able to revert back to your original firmware from 1.5 (when it releases).

But yes, it's been accepted, that once you flash it, it is possible that MS could detect your fw, even if you flash back to original.

Now how likely is it? Well it depends on the games you play, and everything like that. If you were to take a new 360, flash the drive to ixtreme, then flash back to original fw, chances are, you would not get banned. It would say it is highly unlikely.

But, the second the fw is changed, everyone in the "scene" assumes that it is possible
I never understood fully the efuse deal. How many efuses are there to be blown then (10 or 100)? Is there a max number of updates you can make to your Xbox?
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9. December 2008 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know an exact number of how many efuses are there, but the way it works, is each time there is a dashboard update, MS blows an efuse, which prevents your 360 console from ever reverting back to that specific kernel.

And I'm pretty sure MS put in more than enough of them into the console to allow for all updates of the system life. Worst case, if MS didn't put enough, they just wouldn't be able to prevent us from rolling back to a new dashboard. It wouldn't prevent you from getting the update.

But like I said, this has nothing to do with the dvd firmware.

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db5304
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9. December 2008 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by guessswho:
OK, and I'm realizing this is turning kind of stupid, so I will no longer post on that. Sorry guys, I'll try to keep it on topic.

So....

how about that dec. 24th? That'll be sweet!
It'll be great i'm excited, not because i have a lite-on, but b/c heraldson will stop posting about his "inside information"
Until he starts posting about his connections w/Obama at least and his eta on a fix for the economy.

Don't worry guys he's testing it on Mexico as we speak.
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9. December 2008 @ 13:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by guessswho:
Originally posted by mrgreaper:
good news xbox scene have it in there news http://www.xbox-scene.com/
bad news the release date aint till christmass eve :( (hopefully that is subject to change and not c4eva waiting so it can be a crimbo gift(im a spoofed liteon drive user and every day i use my 360 with 1.4 is another day i could be banned :( ))
no disrespect ment to c4eva (still think the guy deserves a medal)


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the problem i see is microsoft will now know they have untill dec 24th to detect all spoofed drives (we know were detectable but they aint looking at mo) lets face it they know they will lose the abilitie to detect spoofed drives on the 24th so they would be stupid not to search now
guess its no live till 24th lol :(
I'm not really sure if that would help. If MS tried to run the command already, and your drive was unable to perform it, then you might already be flagged. But I guess you might as well atleast try to protect yourself from now until its release.

Originally posted by heraldsun:
Originally posted by mrgreaper:
good news xbox scene have it in there news http://www.xbox-scene.com/
bad news the release date aint till christmass eve :( (hopefully that is subject to change and not c4eva waiting so it can be a crimbo gift(im a spoofed liteon drive user and every day i use my 360 with 1.4 is another day i could be banned :( ))
no disrespect ment to c4eva (still think the guy deserves a medal)
*G* you hit the nail right on the head....glad i didn't break release :) it is subject to change but they have to make sure it's all working fine,been tested with assassins creed so far so good.
Just remember it came from mrgreaper and not me :)
Also, I'm sorry, but I really hope people aren't believing what this guy says. Again, everything he's posted is all publically available. Like saying it's been tested with one game? Assassin's Creed. How can anyone know this? It's all on the log of the #fw channel for anyone to be able to read.

It's just a warning. Please take his statements that were "directed to him from the team" with a grain of salt, as they were publically available from a website.

In fact, here is the link (of the most up to date log as of this posting):


http://nopaste.com/p/azkmZNcPmb



:) ahhh well cobber> and people will believe you too then ? it appears to me that you have been looking whats been publicly available. but as you say back on topic....hows this for a deal...i'll sit back and just watch from now on and see how good a guessers you all are :)
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9. December 2008 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by db5304:
Originally posted by guessswho:
OK, and I'm realizing this is turning kind of stupid, so I will no longer post on that. Sorry guys, I'll try to keep it on topic.

So....

how about that dec. 24th? That'll be sweet!
It'll be great i'm excited, not because i have a lite-on, but b/c heraldson will stop posting about his "inside information"
Until he starts posting about his connections w/Obama at least and his eta on a fix for the economy.

Don't worry guys he's testing it on Mexico as we speak.

hey did i tell you the inside scoop....
did you hear Idiamin is alive and well !!??
it's true ....it's true ...ohhh it's true he came out of exile no more than 1/2 an hour ago..go over to you tube for a look geez he's looking old.
Oh how i feel for South Africa.
don't worry though he's not after your heads anymore.
dojorno
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9. December 2008 @ 15:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it is absoulte bullshit all the money put in to buy those key extracting kits for the liteon drive and things. It would really be helpful to know if there is a way around not having to extract the key (by sodldering or with that probe thing) and make it easy like with the other drives or i'll just return my xbox because its not worth it to spend that much money when it could just go toward a gaming pc that i know i can backup my games for
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9. December 2008 @ 16:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dojorno:
it is absoulte bullshit all the money put in to buy those key extracting kits for the liteon drive and things. It would really be helpful to know if there is a way around not having to extract the key (by sodldering or with that probe thing) and make it easy like with the other drives or i'll just return my xbox because its not worth it to spend that much money when it could just go toward a gaming pc that i know i can backup my games for
unfortunately it's the only way for the lite-on,if you don't do it for a living/hobby maybe cheaper for you to get someone to do it for you.if your not keen about spending the money...take your console back then :) and find a benq.
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9. December 2008 @ 16:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dojorno:
it is absoulte bullshit all the money put in to buy those key extracting kits for the liteon drive and things. It would really be helpful to know if there is a way around not having to extract the key (by sodldering or with that probe thing) and make it easy like with the other drives or i'll just return my xbox because its not worth it to spend that much money when it could just go toward a gaming pc that i know i can backup my games for
You obviously haven't heard the effort Microsoft went to create this protection scheme (video: http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.y...QSCfc5fzIpVKugg ). Apparently it's the best one made ever - even so, as you can see it has some faults (otherwise we wouldn't be flashing DVD drives) - but in a future Xbox model (720 or whatever) I imagine they will make it even harder/expensive.
dojorno
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9. December 2008 @ 16:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well if u know where i could find a benq for sure like dont tell me to search ebay and stuff like that just please tell me where i could get one that would help thx
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9. December 2008 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So quick question when the new 1.5fw comes out. Can I use it on a older DVD DRIVE. It curently has the 1.4fw or should I just stick w/this one.
heraldsun
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9. December 2008 @ 17:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by hack01:
So quick question when the new 1.5fw comes out. Can I use it on a older DVD DRIVE. It curently has the 1.4fw or should I just stick w/this one.
it is for all drives,updated security features :)

for XBL

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9. December 2008 @ 17:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK. Thanks. So should I do the update for XBL or Im should be fine.
Donaldo
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9. December 2008 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dojorno:
it is absoulte bullshit all the money put in to buy those key extracting kits for the liteon drive and things.
actually you don't if you're very resourceful...

there's a poor mans extraction kit tutorial over on xbox-scene ... it involves bare electronic components that you'd have to pull out of household items, spare computers, circuit boards, etc...

but in theory it can be done for $0 if you have the spare parts and the know-how...
heraldsun
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9. December 2008 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by hack01:
OK. Thanks. So should I do the update for XBL or Im should be fine.
if you are on XBL would be recommended you update to 1.5
and is safe with the new update from M$ yes

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dojorno
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9. December 2008 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
donaldo i was wondering if you could give me that link to the poor mans extraction i remember looking it before but i was worried bc it looked unsafe
Donaldo
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9. December 2008 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dojorno:
donaldo i was wondering if you could give me that link to the poor mans extraction i remember looking it before but i was worried bc it looked unsafe
ya i dont wanna break the afterdawn rules by posting a direct link to their site...

but if you go to google and search for

"xbox scene liteon key for free"

it's the first result
dojorno
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9. December 2008 @ 18:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thx donaldo. But i think if i have to extract the key i'll just go with the soldering solution bc my friend is really good w/it. Wondering if anyone could sell the xexcuter v3 pro set on ebay for cheap bc i only saw one
heraldsun
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9. December 2008 @ 18:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dojorno:
thx donaldo. But i think if i have to extract the key i'll just go with the soldering solution bc my friend is really good w/it. Wondering if anyone could sell the xexcuter v3 pro set on ebay for cheap bc i only saw one
if you can't make your own kit up why not use the spear method,that way you don't have to worry about soldering,it adds to the price of the kit but worth if for a safe job,that way the solder won't be disturbed greatly(if at all)...i'm surprised they aren't on e-bay yet,evetwhere else down here are sold out of them.
db5304
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9. December 2008 @ 18:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by heraldsun:
Originally posted by dojorno:
thx donaldo. But i think if i have to extract the key i'll just go with the soldering solution bc my friend is really good w/it. Wondering if anyone could sell the xexcuter v3 pro set on ebay for cheap bc i only saw one
if you can't make your own kit up why not use the spear method,that way you don't have to worry about soldering,it adds to the price of the kit but worth if for a safe job,that way the solder won't be disturbed greatly(if at all)...i'm surprised they aren't on e-bay yet,evetwhere else down here are sold out of them.
Xecuter has their own kit out now too that works similarly. One of the senior members posted it a week or two ago, it looks pretty promising.
http://www.mrmodchips.co.uk/catalog/prod...=1¤cy=USD
Thats just the spear part, i beleive you need the connectivity kit as well.
dojorno
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9. December 2008 @ 19:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thx guys but ive found my solution by taking back my liteon drive xbox and buying off ebay a 20 gig one for less (bc i know they dont make 20 gig hard drives anymore and they will have an older drive) thx for help though!
heraldsun
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9. December 2008 @ 19:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by db5304:
Originally posted by heraldsun:
Originally posted by dojorno:
thx donaldo. But i think if i have to extract the key i'll just go with the soldering solution bc my friend is really good w/it. Wondering if anyone could sell the xexcuter v3 pro set on ebay for cheap bc i only saw one
if you can't make your own kit up why not use the spear method,that way you don't have to worry about soldering,it adds to the price of the kit but worth if for a safe job,that way the solder won't be disturbed greatly(if at all)...i'm surprised they aren't on e-bay yet,evetwhere else down here are sold out of them.
Xecuter has their own kit out now too that works similarly. One of the senior members posted it a week or two ago, it looks pretty promising.
http://www.mrmodchips.co.uk/catalog/prod...ner_id=1¤cy=USD
Thats just the spear part, i beleive you need the connectivity kit as well.

yeah xecuter aus has sold out of the CK3 and spear kit here...extremely popular,there is only one place left here with some stock left...reson is they are a bit on the expensive side.
Ohyu
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10. December 2008 @ 15:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So in a nutshell what does this mean for liteon owners? We can flash the firmware as easy as the others?
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10. December 2008 @ 15:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ohyu:
So in a nutshell what does this mean for liteon owners? We can flash the firmware as easy as the others?
technically yeah. Flashing it will be just as easy. But you will have to read the key off of your drive first, and that is a little more involved process.

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10. December 2008 @ 16:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so will this firmware be an update for all drives?
 
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