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BD+ re-secured, SlySoft beaten
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 13 December, 2008
Just one month after SlySoft confidently posted that they had broken BD+ for good, the company has been beaten and admits that a new generation of BD+ protection on Blu-ray films has re-secured the system.
James on the official SlySoft forums has said he "estimates February 2009 for the new BD+ to be defeated," a seemingly long time for a company that usually breaks protection within days.
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Blessedon
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19. December 2008 @ 07:58 |
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For normal Television you still get a good picture quaility from a CRT but obviously not as good as if you had an LCD or Plasma
The picture quality of an HD CRT is far superior to the average competition you mentioned, if only for the black level alone.
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gsebs
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19. December 2008 @ 22:57 |
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Thanks for the clarification, I guess you really clear it up in your last sentence. It comes down to bitrate. How it is recorded is how you will get it.
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20. December 2008 @ 01:57 |
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You have analouge @ 500 or so but who cares anymore
Standard Digital which is DVD quaility @ 720
Then I guess you have upscaled @ around 900
Then HD @ 1080.
If the picture is compressed then you would need you viewing device to stretch the picture as the recieved picture would only fill those pixels that it recieves information for.
Hmm, a lot of misinformation there...
First of all analog is analog, it doesn't have pixels so it can not be directly compared to digital video. Yes, a CRT has scanlines and this number varies depending on whether it is a PAL or NTSC broadcast.
Ok, onto the resolutions...
Standard DVD does not have 720 vertical lines of resolution. However it does have 720 pixels horizontally. I think this is where people get mixed up. The common HD resolutions (ie: 720p, 1080i, 1080p) refer to the vertical pixel count. PAL DVD's are 720 x 576 @ 25fps. NTSC DVD's are 720 x 480 @ 23.976fps/29.98fps. So that would make PAL 576i/p and NTSC 480i/p.
Next, upscaling is not confined to meet a certain resolution. Well expecially not "900" like you mentioned. However, at this point in time the maximum available is 1080p (1920 x 1080). So that would mean you could have options of 720p, 1080i or 1080p depending on the player.
Ok, onto compression now. Compression refers to an algorithm that an encoder uses to decimate parts of data that would pertain to visual elements that the Human eye may not see. The more modern the video encoder, the more efficient it should be at this task. As an example h264 encoded at 10,000Kbs vs MPEG2 at 10,000Kbs (with the same video) would result in the h264 video being far superior. Compression in this instance does not refer to the resolution being smaller than the screen size. Every single screen will have an inbuilt upscaler. This is a very simple process that any device is capable of.
The more important factor that I think is the main point of the discussion here is bitrate vs resolution. In advanced video termonology some of the methods used to calculate this are SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio) and PSNR (Peak Signal to Noise Ratio) etc.. A video with a resolution of 1280 x 720 (720p) encoded with h264 at 15,000Kbs should be superior to a video with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 (1080p) encoded at 5,000Kbs. Even though the latter has a higher resolution, it is starved of bitrate. So a poorer quality video with a lot of noise would result.
ohhh god do you have a life?
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20. December 2008 @ 04:42 |
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Originally posted by Leningrad:
ohhh god do you have a life?
Yes, the breakdown goes something like this...
60 odd hours per week working on the floor of a busy Audio Visual Retailer (hence the obvious passion towards this kind of thing).
The rest is made up of gym, training, sleeping, eating and... Video games and/or a good movie when I finally find the time! Hehe...
Edit: I forgot the most important... Spending quality time with my soon to be Wife. ;-)
So, yes I can say I do have a life! :-P
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error5
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20. December 2008 @ 07:59 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Edit: I forgot the most important... Spending quality time with my soon to be Wife. ;-)
Congratulations, Ryu77.
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20. December 2008 @ 09:42 |
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As of January 1st, 2009, Slysoft will change its update policy from free lifetime updates to an annual subscription fee. All license purchases made before January 1st, 2009 will not be affected by this change; as promised, all licenses purchased before 2009 will still be honoured under Slysoft's free lifetime update policy.
http://www.slysoft.com/en/
WOW did anybody see this.........?
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Run4two
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20. December 2008 @ 18:29 |
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Yes, many of us did see this. Right here in an Afterdawn article on December 2.
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22. December 2008 @ 15:20 |
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Originally posted by error5:
Originally posted by Ryu77:
Edit: I forgot the most important... Spending quality time with my soon to be Wife. ;-)
Congratulations, Ryu77.
Thank you! :-)
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22. December 2008 @ 15:49 |
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if you want to make a copy of your blu-ray disc, why don't folks just make a copy in real time. What I mean is this, ..connect the output of the player to an HDMI input on the computer, set it to record, and come back in an hour and a half.
You would have a few hurdles to jump (uhmm...HDCP), but anyone with a internet connection can find what they need.
Doing it this way, it will NEVER matter how secure Blu-ray disc become.
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Blessedon
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22. December 2008 @ 19:17 |
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[QUOTE]if you want to make a copy of your blu-ray disc, why don't folks just make a copy in real time. What I mean is this, ..connect the output of the player to an HDMI input on the computer, set it to record, and come back in an hour and a half.
You would have a few hurdles to jump (uhmm...HDCP), but anyone with a internet connection can find what they need.
Doing it this way, it will NEVER matter how secure Blu-ray disc become.[/QUOTE]
This would not be a bad idea except that an HDMI-recordable computer would have to have an awesome CPU, something I have but the average Joe will not. The resultant file size would be HUGE. And it wouldn't be a digital copy...there are a host of other impediments. But hey, it's possible, just not practical.
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22. December 2008 @ 19:33 |
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truthfully, my CPU cycles are not to bad. The only problem I've had is disk speed (recording in raw format). I used a raid 0 setup for a while, but now to compensate for the disk speed needed, I use the "motion JPEG codec" to capture.
But yeah, I see your point. An average movie was over 1 TB in size (raw).
Point is.... I could do it. (I also captured DD ac3 5.1) :)
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mossman70
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29. December 2008 @ 13:08 |
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Blessedon
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29. December 2008 @ 15:23 |
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Good job on the heads-up Mossman70
You KNOW the Slysoft crew put in big overtime to get this done so fast.
Still the best program for backups you can buy!
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29. December 2008 @ 19:23 |
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Life is Grand !
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31. December 2008 @ 16:53 |
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"First of all analog is analog, it doesn't have pixels so it can not be directly compared to digital video. Yes, a CRT has scanlines and this number varies depending on whether it is a PAL or NTSC broadcast."
You are right and then you are wrong. A CRT does have pixels, in the old days they were round but then Sony came out with their Trinitron which used rectangles instead. The scan lines are what the CRT HV beam scans across illuminating the phosphorus pixels behind the CRT screen. We could gett into this much deeper and get into chroma and other things but as to your initial point it is true Analog isn't digital.
It's great that Slysoft has broken the new BD+ I don't have any of the movies under that new protection yet but good to hear.
Here is a link to the press release for the movies affected:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=24602
Here is the press release from that thread:
Press Release: SlySoft defeats Blu-ray's BD+ DRM scheme again
For Immediate Release
Antigua, West Indies - December, 29th 2008
SlySoft defeats Blu-ray's BD+ DRM scheme again
Despite some sites reporting that "SlySoft has been beaten", the
Antiguan company renowned for promoting Fair Use Rights has effectively defeated BD+ once again and much earlier than expected; the cat and mouse game of DRM has entered the next round.
Although newer BD+ decryption wasn't expected until February 2009,
today's AnyDVD HD 6.5.0.2 release decrypts copy protection on all
current Blu-ray movies and, in turn, ensures that consumers may continue to backup and enjoy their Blu-ray movie purchases even when using computer monitors that are not HDCP compliant. In fact, AnyDVD HD remains the only program that can decrypt all commercial Blu-ray
releases, and this incredible magic is, as per usual with AnyDVD HD,
performed on the fly without requiring users to rip first to their hard drives.
The following is a selection of current Blu-ray releases supported by
AnyDVD HD:
Futurama: Bender's Game (U.S.)
Firefly, The Complete Series (U.S.)
Planet of the Apes (1968 ) (U.S.)
Predator 2 (1990)
Shine a Light (U.K)
Planet of the Apes (the series), U.S.
Space Chimps, USA
Meet Dave, USA
X-Files 2
X-Files 1
Home Alone
The Day The Earth Stood Still: Special Edition
Jingle All The Way
Super Troopers
Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story
Horton hears a Who
French Connection I & II (UK)
In the Name of the King (US)
Vanishing Point (Germany)
Babylon A.D.
Customers are reminded that SlySoft will change its update policy from
free lifetime updates to an annual subscription fee on January 1st, so
this is the last chance to buy SlySoft products with free lifetime
updates. Those buyers who act quickly during this time can also save an additional 20% with SlySoft's special ongoing Christmas promotion at www.slysoft.com.
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1. January 2009 @ 18:01 |
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can some one please tell me which post is stretching the page margins so I can edit it? Cant seem to pinpoint it.
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1. January 2009 @ 18:17 |
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sorted :)
it was an obscure [ code ] parameter (whatever that is). Changed to [ quote ]
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2. January 2009 @ 19:42 |
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Go Slysoft !
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