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Canadians to pay much more for blank CDs
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article published on 14 December, 2008
Buyers in Canada will soon be faced with higher prices for blank CDs (CD-Rs), as the Canadian Copyright Board has just increased the levy on the media in an effort to "compensate the music industry for potential duplication of copyrighted material."
The new levies will increase by 38 percent, to 29 cents. The first levy was implemented in 1999 with the intention of helping to compensate ... [ read the full article ]
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Skweez
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14. December 2008 @ 17:58 |
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That's too hilarious... obviously the government hasn't heard of these little inventions called iPods.... geez.
Typical Canadian government... not in tune with modern technology whatsoever.
Gotta love my tax dollars at work....
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Tecbot
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14. December 2008 @ 18:16 |
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no kidding i dont know anyone who doesnt own some sort of mp3 player, no big deal to me i have a few hundred packs already laying around to back up stuff since I buy when there on sale for dirt cheap.
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Ragnarok8
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14. December 2008 @ 18:55 |
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Hmm I dont really use CDs anymore to back up stuff, so they're kinda late on this. All my stuff goes to DVDs, my external HDD and flash sticks. Blu rays cost too much too be used and CDs don't hold enough. Plus their cost to storage ratio is lower than DVDs.
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14. December 2008 @ 18:56 |
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I've used 2 CDs in the past year for my car. Other than that the 100 pack I bought 2 years ago is still filled.
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14. December 2008 @ 19:33 |
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I'd like to know how they justify suing or even prosecuting people for copyright infringement if you are already paying for it in advance.
It is like buying insurance, figuring that you will eventually need it, and then having to pay for your damages without the insurance when you do.
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14. December 2008 @ 19:38 |
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but wait a minute.... isn't stuff more expensive there then here?
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sssharp
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14. December 2008 @ 19:40 |
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gallagher very good statement. The catch is the companies sell their problems to the government forcing them to make a new bill/law. Instead of the begging for money(GM,Chrysler) they get the govt to just add taxes to the products to cover their financial problems.
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14. December 2008 @ 20:27 |
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Why in God's name doesn't the copy right board get their heads out of their asses and realize that the levy isn't to compensate the Really Inept Association of Anal Types for loss of monies due to downloading or making CD's for oneself, it's to keep funding that bunch of losers and their illegal war on downloading that they are losing all over the place. This is nothing more than more BS in the way of corporations screwing the little guy and all the while stabbing him in the back as well.
Here's hoping that the lawsuits in the states especially the class action ones that are beginning to appear against them and their minions bankrupts them and forces them out of business. Our Federal Government instead of bowing to pressure by these special interest, read "RIAA", groups who refuse to come into the 21st Century and work with the consumer, who are their customers, should tell them to get stuffed.
I know if I were PM of Canada the RIAA and the MPAA would both be told to get back on their side of the border and stay there. WE ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THEIR INANE AND ANAL ATTITUDES IN CANADA. But then these morons seem to think that everyone is crooked. Hell, they ought to take a good long look in the mirror if they want to see crooked.
By increasing the levy that we pay on CD's or DVD's all they are doing is assuring that no one will buy them and instead go to flash drives or external drives as well as MP3 players and iPods.
I particularly like the reason they came up with to justify this "increase": "Secretary General of the Copyright Board of Canada, Claude Majeau added: ?Two main factors led the Board to raise the CD levy rate to 29¢. First, the mechanical royalties that record labels pay to record a song onto a prerecorded CD have increased. Second, because consumers now use compression technology when they record music, the average number of music tracks copied onto a CD went from 15 to more than 18.? "
Prerecorded CD?! There ain't no such animal, you can't prerecord onto a CD, shows just how much Mr. Majeau knows don't it? It also seems that they don't like compression technology either. Hell it's a known fact that the Music Industry is losing money because no one wants to spend money on a CD that has only two good songs on it, but again, this is another moronic idea that the RIAA has come up with and that's another reason that they are losing artists as well to the indie labels because there they have more control over their own music.
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Morreale
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14. December 2008 @ 21:41 |
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Only time I use a CD is when my dad wants to listen to something... Still uses his old CD player from 10 years ago. Just doesn't want to buy an MP3 player :S
I'm just thinkin', who the hell uses CDs anymore these days(besides the odd person)? Even car stereos now have an Aux In or whatever, MP3 support is standard in almost everything these days. Even for installing things like live CDs, I use DVDs because they are cheaper :S
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14. December 2008 @ 21:59 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
I'm just thinkin', who the hell uses CDs anymore these days(besides the odd person)? Even car stereos now have an Aux In or whatever, MP3 support is standard in almost everything these days. Even for installing things like live CDs, I use DVDs because they are cheaper :S
Ironically my car has a DVD player and a 6 CD changer but no MP3 support or aux in. It only has a composite in for the TV all the way in the back.
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14. December 2008 @ 22:43 |
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Now I remember why I try to avoid reading the news section...because this kind of stupid nonsense just pisses me off. Then I can't really form any kind of coherent thought other than who the hell do they think they are? Before long there will be a tax or levy on everything to compensate someone else who can't manage their affairs on their own.
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14. December 2008 @ 23:07 |
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Ferguj1: They already have something like that it's called government subsidies for the useless and incompetent, unfortunately you have to be a politician or brain dead to qualify for it.We see it in these foolish taxes and bills that our governments enact to appease an industry that can't seem to realize that their day is long gone and it's the dawning of a new age and their plans and ideas of yesteryear just don't fit in here anymore.
That's why the RIAA has to sue everyone it can think of, only did you notice that they are only suing the low and middle income earners, not the fat cats like themselves or the fat cats kids who download and steal more movies and music than we could in a lifetime cause they know that daddy will run interference for them if caught.
You're right though, this type of news just pisses people off and makes them more determined to rid themselves of these moronic greedy corporations who can't get it through their collective heads that they need to work with the consumer not sue them.
If the class action lawsuits that are being launched against them now by their victims succeed then you'll see them whine and cry and claim it's a miscarriage of justice as all they were trying to do is to survive instead of laying down and dying like the dinosaur they are.
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14. December 2008 @ 23:13 |
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dude, when does this law take effect? I wanna stockpile my blank cd pile before this ridiculous law makes me broke.
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llongtheD
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14. December 2008 @ 23:46 |
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Does anyone still believe the masses are the voice, the lawmakers?
Everyone who believes corporations and their lobbyists have nothing to do with the laws, step forward for a ride on the short yellow bus.
They would have no power without the corrupt politicians though. I guess we should all just keep doing nothing, and continue to bitch.
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15. December 2008 @ 01:06 |
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Socialists want your tax dollars so they can waste them.
Media fat cats want your money so they can pocket it when they retire rich.
The people who should matter in this equation, the artists and the citizenry, aren't consulted. They are nothing but cash cows to both groups, working until they drop.
So why do Canadians keep voting in one group when it conspires with the other?
And now, I can ask the same question of Americans.
You're all being played for suckers.
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eiamhere
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15. December 2008 @ 04:17 |
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Just thought the same. If Canadians are not exempt from prosecution for copyright infringment (which they are not), why is there a levy.
Also, are you able to reclaim your "tax" if you do not use these discs for audio medium?
I'll answer that - no obviously.
Copyright is the cause of, and solution to all of CCB' problems.
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patrick_
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15. December 2008 @ 04:20 |
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at least it's only a percentage, not like here in Spain where (I don't know cd prices) DVDs cost 20c (TDK / Verbatim) but have over 80c in taxes (that would be 400% taxes - except that it's a fixed rate)
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15. December 2008 @ 04:33 |
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this is soo crap that because of pirating they have come up with this method to deal with the problem. I don't think my cousins would be too happy.
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15. December 2008 @ 10:34 |
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Thats a pretty one sided tax. I mean some people use blank CDs to pirate er... I mean make back up copies of their software media. Maybe I am different than most but I have not played an audio CD in years. I have purchased some but they are immediately ripped to MP3s and stored on my Hard Drive and MP3 player.
I will close by saying that I think the music industry is using piracy as a scapegoat and their main goal is to keep their pockets stuffed with cash. I do not see any big label musicians or their managers/agents or recording labels starving do you? I guess it is hard to keep up the mortgage on their multi-million dollar homes and their car payments on their exotic luxury car. I feel so bad for them. I mean people like us driving around in our chevys and fords and living in our modest little homes or apartments should pay taxes on something that they cannot prove you are using to pirate music. After all Rock Stars (Rap Stars or any other Music Star) have a hard life.
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mmx4000
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15. December 2008 @ 10:37 |
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Well that makes my life alot easier.
DVDs aren't subject to this levy/tax. That's why in the last few years DVDs are cheaper per disc than CD's. Which makes little sense, but that's the way it is.
So I guess I'll be using DVD's for all applications that call for writing data to a disc, even if it's below 700mb.
So buy DVDs, flash memory, or mp3 players. Do it now before they decide to tax these as well. CD's are out-dated anyways. Let that increase go to waste when nobody buys CD's anymore.
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emugamer
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15. December 2008 @ 11:47 |
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Wow, absurdity at it's all time peak. This law should have been passed 10+ years ago, when CD burners hit the scene and MP3's were being downloaded directly from sites like allmp3 or p2p via Napster. So how does this work anyway? How much does a CD cost in Canada? It's about $0.07 here in the states. What price per CD are the 10 blank CD-purchasing Canadian customers going to see per CD?
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gnovak1
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15. December 2008 @ 13:54 |
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Originally posted by bobiroc:
Thats a pretty one sided tax. I mean some people use blank CDs to pirate er... I mean make back up copies of their software media. Maybe I am different than most but I have not played an audio CD in years. I have purchased some but they are immediately ripped to MP3s and stored on my Hard Drive and MP3 player.
I will close by saying that I think the music industry is using piracy as a scapegoat and their main goal is to keep their pockets stuffed with cash. I do not see any big label musicians or their managers/agents or recording labels starving do you? I guess it is hard to keep up the mortgage on their multi-million dollar homes and their car payments on their exotic luxury car. I feel so bad for them. I mean people like us driving around in our chevys and fords and living in our modest little homes or apartments should pay taxes on something that they cannot prove you are using to pirate music. After all Rock Stars (Rap Stars or any other Music Star) have a hard life.
Very well put. I agree 100%. Musicians make tons on their concert tours and promotional appearences. Cds never really raked up big bucks for musicians anyway. And to make the average consumer pay for the crimes of others is ridiculous.
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15. December 2008 @ 13:55 |
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Why wouldn't you just buy them online, anyway?
Or can they charge you for that, too?
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15. December 2008 @ 14:14 |
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Originally posted by nintenut:
Why wouldn't you just buy them online, anyway?
Or can they charge you for that, too?
I'm curious about that, too. Does Canada have the Internet sales and badnwidth taxes, as well? Americans will see those next year. Obviously, if they do, they'll pay the tax in the cost, evne if they get them shipped from America.
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Lee_asdf
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15. December 2008 @ 14:57 |
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I can't wait for this to pass in the US! I should be charged for every homework assignment I burn onto a disc too! The music industry is in a complete shitthole and needs my competely unrelated money!
BTW, this means that I'm paying for whatever I download, So it's LEGAL!...
In all seriousness, I think I would pay 15c for a disc if it meant that whatever I download and burn to it would be completely legal.-- Prepaid CD's! Imagine the possibilities!
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