i brought it brand new from amazon a few days ago, and it arrived yesterday and is still in the box. your saying that is red ringed?
360 has been out for years, and you guys are still unsure about this red ring issue? thats really poor from microsoft.
i have a launch 60gb ps3, it runs sooo qietly and has never given me problems.
360 is like a basic computer, in design terms. its a more basic machine. the ps3 is much more intracate and complicated and yet its reliability is very good, how can sony get this perfect from day one, and microsoft still cant sort it out?
what i said was a joke but if thats the way you feel about the xbox 360 than sell the d@mn thing and go play your sony playstation.
oh by the way while your at it keep your ass off the xbox forums!!!!