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How to Paint your 360 Case at home with Professional Results
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McCoyHawk
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2. January 2009 @ 21:27 |
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Normally you would have to go to someone who has a paint gun for car painting or an airbrush to get decent results when painting your case. I wrote this tutorial to show you how to do it from home, cheap, with some basic household items and get GREAT results!
How to Paint your 360 Case at home with Professional Results
By McCoy Hawkins - MyXboxSpot.com
Things you will need:
* Case and or controller pieces (or other hardware) completely stripped down (no electronics still on it, just a case)
* Krylon Plastic Enamel or Spray paint (color of your choice) (Spray paint, dont buy a freakin bucket of paint)
* 400P, 1200P, 1500P sandpaper (you could probably get away with just the 400P and one of the others....)
* 5 Gallon bucket unless you want to do the sanding outside in your yard...
* Clearcoat (completely optional, I wouldn't mess with it)
* Drying stand to dry the pieces off afterwards.
Let's Get Started!
* Take your HARDWARE and sand it lightly all over it until it is "dull or scuffed" on every inch of it.... even in the corners. If you dont do this your paint will not stick.
* Hang your HARDWARE somewhere that it can hang freely so that when you spray it you can get to all sides of it without touching it.
* Try to get as much dust and debris away from the area as possible as it will get into the air and stick in your paint.
* Get out your spray can of paint.
* Hold the can about 16-20 inches away from your HARDWARE (This is just a tack-coat, which gets the hardware sticky so that the real coating will stick better) and lightly spray the hardware. You should NOT cover it completely! Just enough to where you can still see a little bit of white (assuming your 360 is white) through the paint.
* Let this coat sit for about a minute. Try to do no more, or no less...
* Spray on another coat, this time a little thicker and hold your can a little closer...(12-16 inches would be find)
* Let this coat sit for about 5 minutes. If you do it before about 5 minute, the coat of paint will not dry enough, and your next coat will become runny and your paint job will be bad.
* Apply another coat, this time trying to make sure that ALL white (or w/e color) is gone from the surface. DO NOT SPRAY TOO MUCH IN 1 SPOT AS IT WILL CREATE RUNS!!! You should hold this one 10-14 inches away from the surface.
* Let this coat sit for 15 minutes.
* Apply up to 4 more coats just like the one above, letting it dry for 15 minutes in between each coat. Be sure to use even patterns when spraying it.
* After you have applied as many coats as you want, let it dry overnight (atleast 12 hours) to make sure that it 100% dry all the way through.
* Now get a water hose, or fill up your 5 gallon bucket with warm water and take it somewhere where you dont mind getting wet... (Garage, driveway... w/e)
* Look at your HARDWARE. Determine how bad your paintjob is using the scale below: (1= should never have been painting in the first place.... 10=Spotless)
1= You have runs, drips and white spots still exposed.
2= You have runs and a couple parts that are too thickly coated.
3= Small runs and some debris in the coats.
4= Small runs but the rest looks good.
5= No runs, but some debris in the last 2 coats.
6= Small imperfections in coats
7= "Orange peel" on outer coats (see link for details)
8= Small orange peel but just barely
9= Just a little imperfections
10= Perfect, leave me be kemosabi
If your paint job is between...
1-2 you may need to redo the whole process... Sorry for your luck
3-8 follow the next steps.
9-10 you can follow the next steps to improve it a little more, or you can call it a day
* Sand the surface VERY lightly with your 1200P or 1500P paper. YOU DO NOT WANT TO REMOVE THE PAINT DOWN TO THE PLASTIC OR YOUR WHOLE JOB IS SHOT! You are just sanding out the orange peel and runs.
* Keep sanding until the surface is smooth. Make sure you dont sand too far or too hard.
* As long as you didn't sand it with anything less than 1200P sandpaper, your HARDWARE should now be smooth and perfected.
* You can now apply Clearcoat (optional) for a shinier effect.
* Set your HARDWARE on your drying stand to dry off and you are DONNNNEEE!
I will post pictures of mine when I am finished painting my case.
Thanks/Donate points if this helped!
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2. January 2009 @ 22:00 |
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donate points??
um....
Anyways, nice tut though. Post some pics and we'll see how it looks.
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2. January 2009 @ 23:19 |
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Maybe copied from another fourm...
It could use some picts...
good tut though
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3. January 2009 @ 10:45 |
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look at the top it was copied, he wrote it though. and yes post pics.
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3. January 2009 @ 12:11 |
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Yeah i've been using this technique for years. You always need to rough up plastic to get the paint to stick. I usually start with 600 grit then wash the parts and let them dry. Then i mask and paint then wetsand with automotive grade 2000 grit sandpaper. Then i paint again, then wetsand again and repeat till it looks flawless. The results from all my previous work speaks for itself.
Here's from the black xbox i sent to california.
OP - Sorry in advance for the thread-jack, though it always happens when i post pictures.
Here's the chatpad and cam masking.
Here's the finished product.
Here's the doors to my car lol
hell even my fast traxx is painted
Get used to sanding before painting to prep the surface and it will make a world of difference. The finish will turn out flawless and the paint will be more durable. Another tip is to get some warm water and put the base of the can into the water to warm up the paint. Let it sit in the warm water for maybe 10 minutes. The trick is to use warm water, not hot water ( i really can't stress this enough, that's why warm is in bold). If you use hot water you risk rising the pressure in the can and having it explode....
The doors on my car to this day still look pretty good even after i had someone break into it. I spent countless hours preping the doors and warming the paint cans that's why i know that this technique works.
If any of you guys have any questions let me know.
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3. January 2009 @ 18:43 |
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^ Nice!
I read these guides all the time, n I always wanted to paint something, just didnt want to sand somethings down and create scratches, waiting for paint to dry, and putting thin coats...
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15. April 2009 @ 12:30 |
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Nice paiting tut and also the tut glarch linked is using a special kind of plastic spray that forms a vinyl like coating on the plastic which doesnt require sanding at all. I might try both of these out. possibly paint my case and use the other stuff on controllers.
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15. April 2009 @ 14:34 |
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I'd advise against the vinyl dye. I tried to use it on the doors of my car before i used paint...here's the results from that disaster.
They looked great and had a nice finish before i went to pull the painters tape off. I emailed duplicolor and sent them bag full off the vinyl coating i pulled off the doors. Weeks later i received a letter from them with a voucher towards free duplicolor products so i bought regular white paint and regular black paint, and removed the rest of the vinyl coating by using painters tape....yeah it's that sad.
So i advise against this unless you want to redo your controller after the coating starts to come off.
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15. April 2009 @ 14:39 |
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maybe it was the surface that caused the vinyl to peel. if so many others have used this on 360 with good results i would think there would be some complaints also seeing as how the controller is in your hands all the time and it would seem like it would wear off quickly. as opose to a car door that isnt constantly rubbed and handled.
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15. April 2009 @ 14:47 |
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well i always prep the surface before i paint so it wasn't my fault their product didn't work as advertised. And i remember buying countless cans of that interior dye to do the whole car. It didn't want to stick to the surface it was intended to and advertised to stick to? It really doesn't make any sense.
Anyway if you use that dye do not clean the controller with anything besides water. Because i'm pretty sure that rubbing alcohol will take off the coating like the soft feel xcm contollers have.
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15. April 2009 @ 20:05 |
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Originally posted by C4RN1:
I'd advise against the vinyl dye. I tried to use it on the doors of my car before i used paint...here's the results from that disaster.
They looked great and had a nice finish before i went to pull the painters tape off. I emailed duplicolor and sent them bag full off the vinyl coating i pulled off the doors. Weeks later i received a letter from them with a voucher towards free duplicolor products so i bought regular white paint and regular black paint, and removed the rest of the vinyl coating by using painters tape....yeah it's that sad.
So i advise against this unless you want to redo your controller after the coating starts to come off.
What sort of duplicolor paint were you using? The 360 controller is a different surface than that on your car door (i'm assuming the door is vinyl?), on the 360's plastic coating, it actually dyes the controllers surface (unlike spray paint that just covers it). Maybe this was just a bad batch, seeing though i've used plasticolor (similar to duplicolor) many times and i've been using the painted controller for atleast 5 days and still no signs of wearing off
This is not my photo but it is what it should turn out like (if not better).
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7791/hozycontrol1lr9.jpg
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15. April 2009 @ 21:07 |
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Originally posted by glarch:
What sort of duplicolor paint were you using? The 360 controller is a different surface than that on your car door (i'm assuming the door is vinyl?), on the 360's plastic coating, it actually dyes the controllers surface (unlike spray paint that just covers it). Maybe this was just a bad batch, seeing though i've used plasticolor (similar to duplicolor) many times and i've been using the painted controller for atleast 5 days and still no signs of wearing off
This is not my photo but it is what it should turn out like (if not better).
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7791/...lr9.jpg
Do i really have to quote myself?
Originally posted by C4RN1:
I remember buying countless cans of that interior dye to do the whole car.
No no and no....let's put this all in perspective. I know what i'm talking about, and i know what i'm doing. My car door is plastic (if you would have looked at the picture you can obviously see), and no the duplicolor dye does not dye plastic (you would have to be retarded to think dye can penetrate plastic, this coating only dyes fabrics). Obviously your response pissed me off to a point where i really have lost the sense to post any useful information. Here's a picture to stop you dead in your tracks.
This is the exactly same product you're talking about...I don't get what you don't understand. It's the same surface and the same coating. So just heed my warning and keep your mouth shut when you think of doubting me.
btw that picture without proof looks like a stock plastic elite controller with a blue led mod. Who are they trying to fool? If they were prepared to make a guide they would have included before and after pics.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. April 2009 @ 21:13
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Originally posted by C4RN1:
Originally posted by glarch:
What sort of duplicolor paint were you using? The 360 controller is a different surface than that on your car door (i'm assuming the door is vinyl?), on the 360's plastic coating, it actually dyes the controllers surface (unlike spray paint that just covers it). Maybe this was just a bad batch, seeing though i've used plasticolor (similar to duplicolor) many times and i've been using the painted controller for atleast 5 days and still no signs of wearing off
This is not my photo but it is what it should turn out like (if not better).
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7791/...lr9.jpg
Do i really have to quote myself?
Originally posted by C4RN1:
I remember buying countless cans of that interior dye to do the whole car.
No no and no....let's put this all in perspective. I know what i'm talking about, and i know what i'm doing. My car door is plastic (if you would have looked at the picture you can obviously see), and no the duplicolor dye does not dye plastic (you would have to be retarded to think dye can penetrate plastic, this coating only dyes fabrics). Obviously your response pissed me off to a point where i really have lost the sense to post any useful information. Here's a picture to stop you dead in your tracks.
This is the exactly same product you're talking about...I don't get what you don't understand. It's the same surface and the same coating. So just heed my warning and keep your mouth shut when you think of doubting me.
btw that picture without proof looks like a stock plastic elite controller with a blue led mod. Who are you trying to fool?
WOWSER!!!! You get as mad as I do. You gonna blow a gasket?
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15. April 2009 @ 21:18 |
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lol bd you know from experience
It's like taking your car into a mechanic and then telling him exactly what's wrong with your car and how much he is allowed to charge you.... It just doesn't happen, you can't give advise to a professional and if you do, it won't go over well.
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glarch
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15. April 2009 @ 22:31 |
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Originally posted by C4RN1:
Originally posted by glarch:
What sort of duplicolor paint were you using? The 360 controller is a different surface than that on your car door (i'm assuming the door is vinyl?), on the 360's plastic coating, it actually dyes the controllers surface (unlike spray paint that just covers it). Maybe this was just a bad batch, seeing though i've used plasticolor (similar to duplicolor) many times and i've been using the painted controller for atleast 5 days and still no signs of wearing off
This is not my photo but it is what it should turn out like (if not better).
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7791/...lr9.jpg
Do i really have to quote myself?
Originally posted by C4RN1:
I remember buying countless cans of that interior dye to do the whole car.
No no and no....let's put this all in perspective. I know what i'm talking about, and i know what i'm doing. My car door is plastic (if you would have looked at the picture you can obviously see), and no the duplicolor dye does not dye plastic (you would have to be retarded to think dye can penetrate plastic, this coating only dyes fabrics). Obviously your response pissed me off to a point where i really have lost the sense to post any useful information. Here's a picture to stop you dead in your tracks.
This is the exactly same product you're talking about...I don't get what you don't understand. It's the same surface and the same coating. So just heed my warning and keep your mouth shut when you think of doubting me.
btw that picture without proof looks like a stock plastic elite controller with a blue led mod. Who are they trying to fool? If they were prepared to make a guide they would have included before and after pics.
I never said that i've used duplicolor before but that other people have told me that it works for the 360... i always use plasticolor. Look at all the people (in the link i posted too digg.com), and see how many people have used vinyl dye for their 360's... car doors can't be compared too the 360's plastic.
As for how you said the painted controller looks like a stock black controller... it's not, thats how good it really looks with this method... if you had read the linked tut completely you will see just how many people will disagree to "I'd advise not to use vinyl dye".
Another thing, i've actually used this method so i know that it actually works... i've played the 360 with the painted controller for over 100 hours, still no sign of wear.
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not arguing with idiotic noobs .........unsubscribed
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15. April 2009 @ 22:43 |
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Originally posted by C4RN1:
not arguing with idiotic noobs .........unsubscribed
I believe you were the one that posted a flame filled post w/o understanding the proper aspects
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16. April 2009 @ 02:39 |
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C4RN1 i dont see why you are going of like you are. simply cause he said he has used this product and it worked fine for his application but for yours it did not so you say he is an idiotic noob.
Now if he was disrespectful about i would agree with you but he was not in the least. If everyone always had the same experience with the same product as everyone else then you wouldnt see bad reviews on anything. i doubt there is any product out there that has 100% success rate and ratings.
"So just heed my warning and keep your mouth shut when you think of doubting me."
sorry man but i dont care what kind of professional you think you are or if you are one at whatever you do but in my book that was the biggest douchebag remark i have ever heard i dont care if the guy did have a few facts wrong or mixed up cause he wasnt being a dick about it. God forbid anyone question the mighty C4RN1
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Originally posted by stealthdf:
C4RN1 i dont see why you are going of like you are. simply cause he said he has used this product and it worked fine for his application but for yours it did not so you say he is an idiotic noob.
Now if he was disrespectful about i would agree with you but he was not in the least. If everyone always had the same experience with the same product as everyone else then you wouldnt see bad reviews on anything. i doubt there is any product out there that has 100% success rate and ratings.
"So just heed my warning and keep your mouth shut when you think of doubting me."
sorry man but i dont care what kind of professional you think you are or if you are one at whatever you do but in my book that was the biggest douchebag remark i have ever heard i dont care if the guy did have a few facts wrong or mixed up cause he wasnt being a dick about it. God forbid anyone question the mighty C4RN1
Thank you stealth
And as for C4RN, if you really are a "professional" and you said ..."(you would have to be retarded to think dye can penetrate plastic, this coating only dyes fabrics)"... then why, if you say this would you use it on something that you said it would not work on??? You claim that you know everything... you obviously don't... you have never used this on a 360... vinyl dye works (atleast the brand i have used does)... i never said this particulour brand works, i said that people have said it works (people that have used it on a 360)
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16. April 2009 @ 16:51 |
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Originally posted by glarch:
And as for C4RN, if you really are a "professional" and you said ..."(you would have to be retarded to think dye can penetrate plastic, this coating only dyes fabrics)"... then why, if you say this would you use it on something that you said it would not work on??? You claim that you know everything... you obviously don't... you have never used this on a 360... vinyl dye works (atleast the brand i have used does)... i never said this particulour brand works, i said that people have said it works (people that have used it on a 360)
You know what, i'll be nice and apologize to you. I'm sorry glarch
I just hate it when people argue the facts. If it's how something works and it only works and is designed to work one way and you tell me something different, i'll discredit you and that's the end of it in my mind.
The way that duplicolor dye or any other coating like that works is just like paint. This dye coating is thinner than most paint so it can get into more places like fabrics. It will only dye an asorbant material, not a non asorbant one. It will sit on the top of the surface until the liquid begins to cure (exactly like paint). So with that said if you took a razor blade and scratched up part of your controller you could more than likely peel the coating off like peeling a skin off an orange.
The reason it didn't work with my application (the door) was because this coating was designed to wrap around the suface completely. The tape pulled the coating away from the surface and even with heat lamps the coating still didn't stick. If i didn't mask off any areas the product probably would have worked as advertised.
If/when you get a hole in that layer of skin on your controller more than likely it will form a weakspot and air will begin to get between the skin and the plastic on the controller. It will come off in little rubber-like flexible pieces.
So good luck, i hope you have success
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17. April 2009 @ 08:50 |
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wow what a big waste of time and money. Might as well buy an elite if you're going to paint it black, oh and void your warranty(if you have one) you should have painted it hot pink...
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17. April 2009 @ 13:15 |
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gameover you're saying that a 5 dollar can of spray paint and a 5 dollar pack of sandpaper is a waste of money?
Really compare the two consoles..
You can actually see the light from the plexi reflected on the flat black paint. It was sanded to be as smooth as the plastic surface.
Really i think the paint looks a bit better because it's darker. Plus you can always buy aftermarket cases so why is it a waste of money?
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Originally posted by gameover9:
wow what a big waste of time and money. Might as well buy an elite if you're going to paint it black, oh and void your warranty(if you have one) you should have painted it hot pink...
seeing as the main theme of this forum is modding i dont think people are too worried about warranties all that much. I doubt that the whole warranty thing has been overlooked by someone willing to put forth the effort to do sucha good job and spend the time on it.
and like C41RN said....the paint does look better. i mean can you even call the elite a black case cause to me it looks gray when compared to actual black.
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17. April 2009 @ 13:37 |
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Okay, it does look good, but too much work just to make it black. Just my opinion. I've used that same paint on dashes, works great but $6.99 a can here, plus it's always to blend into the colors unless you're using black.
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