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6. January 2009 @ 21:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
**EDIT**
Sammoris converted me to Intel. Lol.
Current Build **

CASE**Thermaltake WingRS 200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133075

CPU**Intel Pentium E5200 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072

MoBo**GIGABYTE GA-EG31M-S2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128338

RAM**Kingston HyperX 1GBx2 DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134583

PSU**Antec earthwatts EA380 380W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005

HDD**Western Digital Caviar 7200RPM 250GB SATA 3.0GB/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136113

GPU**ASUS HD4670 512MB 128Bit GDDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...4&Tpk=HD%204670

OPTICAL DRIVE**LG DVD BURNER
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144

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6. January 2009 @ 21:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The psu you chose will not work. It has a great chance of failing and ruining your computer. I would get this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008

If you want something cheaper than the 9800gt then a 4670 would be good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127383

This would work great and be cheaper

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128373

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Indeed, Rosewill PSUs are deathtraps. The rest of the build is OK, but krj's motherboard and graphics card would be better choices.



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11. January 2009 @ 21:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok guys, Ive changed the build for better/cheaper/stabiler products.
Oppinions?

As a side note, where do I get screws to screw in OEM parts?

**EDIT**
Sammorris changed me from an AMD to Intel man. New build is still further down. Mhm'k? :)

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12. January 2009 @ 06:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's a way inferior graphics card you've chosen. We're talking a third of the power of the 9800GT at best.
Get this instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121274
Assuming you actually play games of course? If all the graphics card is for is to play HD Video, the HD3650 you chose will be fine.




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Sazy
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12. January 2009 @ 21:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
That's a way inferior graphics card you've chosen. We're talking a third of the power of the 9800GT at best.
Get this instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121274
Assuming you actually play games of course? If all the graphics card is for is to play HD Video, the HD3650 you chose will be fine.
I appreciate the suggestion but the HD3650 is more then I need. (To be truthful I was wanting a GeForce 7800 but I can't find them anymore)

EDIT***
After looking at reviews of the HD3650 I found and seeing that I can't find another GPU as cheap I am going to go with your suggestion. Konichiwa!

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13. January 2009 @ 06:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 7800GT is way, way inferior to the HD4670, and uses a LOT more power.



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14. January 2009 @ 21:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
The 7800GT is way, way inferior to the HD4670, and uses a LOT more power.
See, I haven't been in the scene for a while and when I stopped building computers to do some other "things" the 7800 was the beast for casual gamers. Since its been so long I thought they'd be dirt cheap and would be perfect. (I eventually found one and it was more expensive then the HD4670)
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The 7800GT (rivals X1800GTO, X1800XT) hasn't even been made for nearly 3 years, it was superceded by the 7900GT/GTX in 2006 (rivals X1900XT, X1900XT-X, X1950 Pro, X1950XT, X1950XT-X), then the 8800GS (9600GT, 9600GSO) , GT (9800GT), GTS, GTX, Ultra, 9800GTX and 9800GTX+, all of which are beaten by a Radeon HD4850 which is barely much more than 100 dollars. The HD4670 and its older counterparts the HD3870 and HD2900XT sit around equals to the lower end 8800s. The GTX260, revised version of it, GTX280 and GTX295 have since been released too (rivals HD4850, HD4870, HD4850X2, HD4870X2)






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I wouldn't waste my money on the AMD "Black" series. It's a marketing gimmick and I don't believe that there is "bang for the buck" there, that having been said, I don't OC anymore because I value reliability over "juice squeezing".

AFAIK, the "Black series" are standard CPUs that were pulled off the line that would clock faster (stably) than their batchmates.
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@sammorris
Thank you for the info. But the last time I did serious hard core PC gaming was 3 years ago when the 7800 was godly. I dont do much gaming on my PC anymore, but would like to have a GFX card that could handle a game at l024x768 with no hang ups. Thats why I was still having 7800 on my head. But I think the 4670 you helped me choose will be fine since you said it equates to the GeForce 8800.

@dailun
Which of these two are better for "bang for the buck???"
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103272

or
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103210
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16. January 2009 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, the 6000+ is better bang for the buck initially, though the amount of power it uses is going to cost a fair bit more over the time you own it. For games, however, I have to say that this is far better than either:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116074
Take it or leave it, but if you're that far behind on the graphics market, you should also know that AMD have been second best for a while now for CPUs.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, the 6000+ is better bang for the buck initially, though the amount of power it uses is going to cost a fair bit more over the time you own it. For games, however, I have to say that this is far better than either:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116074
Take it or leave it, but if you're that far behind on the graphics market, you should also know that AMD have been second best for a while now for CPUs.
I know that AMD/ATI have been behind since Intel rolled out with CPUs on the socket 775. But, I like RISC architecture over CISC.
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As far as I'm aware they are both CISC and have been for a long time. Besides, what difference does it really make? Knowing the superior real world performance of the E5300 is why I recommended it.
Also, only AMD are behind, ATI are still very much a competitive company now.



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16. January 2009 @ 15:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
As far as I'm aware they are both CISC and have been for a long time. Besides, what difference does it really make? Knowing the superior real world performance of the E5300 is why I recommended it.
Also, only AMD are behind, ATI are still very much a competitive company now.
Has AMD really switched to CISC? Thats a shame. :( Call me a fool for nostalgia.

Looking at the wattage on each the 7750 uses more power but you didn't comment about that... So... Is the 6000 or 7750 best bang for my buck?
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16. January 2009 @ 16:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That wasn't the original comparison, but the 7750 is the best bang for the buck of all the Athlon X2s. That said, the comment about the Core 2 is still valid.



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16. January 2009 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
That wasn't the original comparison, but the 7750 is the best bang for the buck of all the Athlon X2s. That said, the comment about the Core 2 is still valid.
Can you find a comparable CPU to the 7750 from Intel in the 65-80$ range?
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16. January 2009 @ 16:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're gonna kill an AMD enthusiast!
Damn Intel and better products! (Although I have a ThinkPad with a T2390 currently and love it)

Ok, So Im gonna rework the build now.
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16. January 2009 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In some environments, the E5200 falls a little behind the X2 7750, but it's never by a level you'd notice, and the E5200 is a 50W processor versus the X2 which is a 90W processor. i.e. if the CPU is at full load for just two hours a day on average, it will save you $10 a year in power alone.





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16. January 2009 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
In some environments, the E5200 falls a little behind the X2 7750, but it's never by a level you'd notice, and the E5200 is a 50W processor versus the X2 which is a 90W processor. i.e. if the CPU is at full load for just two hours a day on average, it will save you $10 a year in power alone.
I'll post new build quickly.
Isn't my power bill associated on how many Watts the PSU pulls?
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The PSU wattage figure is an 'up to'. The PSU only draws what the system requires, which is controlled by what's in it.



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16. January 2009 @ 17:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Current Build **

CASE**Undecided

CPU**Intel Pentium E5200 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072

MoBo**Foxconn M7VMX-K LGA 775
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186138

RAM**Kingston HyperX 2GB DDR2 DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104042

PSU**Corsair 400W CMPSU-400CX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008

HDD**Western Digital Caviar 7200RPM 320GB SATA 3.0GB/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098

GPU**EVGA 8600GTS 512MG 128-BIT GDDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130286

OPTICAL DRIVE**LG DVD BURNER
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144
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16. January 2009 @ 17:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What's with the random overpriced graphics cards creeping back in? The HD4670 is literally triple the performance of the 8600GTS.





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16. January 2009 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
What's with the random overpriced graphics cards creeping back in? The HD4670 is literally triple the performance of the 8600GTS.
The 4670 is PCI Express x16 2.0.
The MoBo I chose doesn't support it. Unless GFX cards are dual-mode ???
 
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