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Sony: Xbox 360 is too expensive
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article published on 9 January, 2009
Sony's marketing team has taken aim at Microsoft's Xbox 360 console in a recent press release, branding the console as too expensive and hyping the PlayStation 3 (PS3) as the best offer for your money. Specifically, Sony targeted the Xbox 360 Arcade unit, which it valued as $199. The press release claims that to get all the features of a standard 80GB PS3 model (at $399) for the Xbox 360 ... [ read the full article ]
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14. January 2009 @ 20:48 |
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No no I agree with you those games are gems of the the day but to me they are "worth less" as Halflife,Unreal,Doom,Blood,Undying,Halo 1,Quake 1-2,Turok 1-2,ect these games were made for enthusiasts not the witless modern casual gamer, I just do not see price equating to quality in gaming anymore.
Or the witless modern hardcore gamer, such as my loser friends ;)
Hey consumerism is herding cattle's via brands,franchises and ad wars, hevan forbid money is spent on development of the product which dose not always ganer support of the masses thus why I say witless.
The masses are witless oh so witless, individuals resolute on their spending habits and the defense there of.
And then theirs the crazies like zippy =^^=
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14. January 2009 @ 21:26 |
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Haha, oh my G-d, how pathetic of Sony!
Compare the Pro or the Elite, don't bash the Arcade! The Arcade is made for people, like my little brother, who don't need a hard drive because they don't download anything and who don't need WiFi (which means no Live as well).
Compare the Elite to the PS3 80GB.
Elite: 120GB
PS3: 80GB
For the same 400$.
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Pro: 60GB
PS3: 80GB
For 100$ less for the Pro.
The only thing missing in the Xbox 360 is the WiFi adapter but I think all the exclusive games and the lower price covers for that.
Don't get me wrong, I like Sony, I have a Vaio laptop and a PSP, it's just that bashing the Arcade when it's made for people who don't need an HDD or anything instead of the Pro or Elite, which are equivalent to the PS3 just shows Sony is desperate.
Same thing for the Wii, they're bashing against a console that is like goliath next to the PS3 in terms of sale. That's kind of sad.
If everything Sony claims was true, why are they third in the next-generation market sales, by a large margin?
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14. January 2009 @ 21:35 |
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Originally posted by BTFan:
Haha, oh my G-d, how pathetic of Sony!
Compare the Pro or the Elite, don't bash the Arcade! The Arcade is made for people, like my little brother, who don't need a hard drive because they don't download anything and who don't need WiFi (which means no Live as well).
Compare the Elite to the PS3 80GB.
Elite: 120GB
PS3: 80GB
For the same 400$.
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Pro: 60GB
PS3: 80GB
For 100$ less for the Pro.
The only thing missing in the Xbox 360 is the WiFi adapter but I think all the exclusive games and the lower price covers for that.
Don't get me wrong, I like Sony, I have a Vaio laptop and a PSP, it's just that bashing the Arcade when it's made for people who don't need an HDD or anything instead of the Pro or Elite, which are equivalent to the PS3 just shows Sony is desperate.
Same thing for the Wii, they're bashing against a console that is like goliath next to the PS3 in terms of sale. That's kind of sad.
If everything Sony claims was true, why are they third in the next-generation market sales, by a large margin?
Mostly price, if the PS3 was 100$ less from the start they would be matching the 360 sales numbers within a couple million units if not bypassed them by now.
Price slows sales first and foremost next is products aimed at their target audience.
Wii has a boarder audience and lower price thus is a freaking mountain.
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15. January 2009 @ 03:12 |
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Mostly price, if the PS3 was 100$ less from the start they would be matching the 360 sales numbers within a couple million units if not bypassed them by now.
If the PS3 had been priced closer to the price of the xbox360 i would have never bought a xbox myself and i agree they would probably be in second place right now in sales leaving Xbox360 to be in last. Sony had a lot of loyal fans that they slapped in the face with the steep pricetag regardless if they were giving you next generation technology at a good price.
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15. January 2009 @ 03:20 |
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Mostly price, if the PS3 was 100$ less from the start they would be matching the 360 sales numbers within a couple million units if not bypassed them by now.
If the PS3 had been priced closer to the price of the xbox360 i would have never bought a xbox myself and i agree they would probably be in second place right now in sales leaving Xbox360 to be in last. Sony had a lot of loyal fans that they slapped in the face with the steep pricetag regardless if they were giving you next generation technology at a good price.
I do not see PS3 sells slowing so they could easily bypass the 360 numbers by the end of the year, but I think they will be neck in neck within a couple million units. And due to the high 360 fail rate and sony making money on the newer units sold Sony will be stabilizing in 09.
Psst that I see a slow tit for tat console war moving forward as the PS3 and 360 have the majority of there high end user base, games that are not multi system are going to have a hard time gaining profit, the WII will remain king hitting 60milloin units(if not hitting 70, I think past 80M units the WII will slow in new sales) by the end of the year.
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15. January 2009 @ 08:00 |
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I wonder how many extra units MS sold because of the RROD...
I know my friend has 2 because he didn't want to wait 6 weeks...
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15. January 2009 @ 09:58 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
I wonder how many extra units MS sold because of the RROD...
I know my friend has 2 because he didn't want to wait 6 weeks...
I'm very certain it's plenty. Those will be the numbers that are never accounted for or accredited to M$ when looking at where they stand in this so called war. Personally I think they are even with Sony in terms of whats actually sold straight up sales not re-sales on a out of warranty defective unit.
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15. January 2009 @ 10:02 |
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If Sony would drop their system down to $250 - $300 they will pick up some serious steam and push for the number spot later. If they want to strategize then it should be done before Killzone 2. That will definitely help the console sales and move them up that ladder.
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15. January 2009 @ 17:09 |
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You notice all you hear from sony fans is a whole lot of this word right here ....2 letters over and over "if" this,"if"that again and again. Why argue what is not fact but common sense Sony themselves didnt employ?You dont the majority of 360 fans saying if MS didnt dick up with RROD theyd be making so much money, if the rrod wasnt out there then yada yada yada. Its just looks and sounds pathetics whne at every article the fans come out of the woodworks to correct the article,slant it in positve way,whine of conspiracies.
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15. January 2009 @ 17:49 |
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Originally posted by Globe08:
You notice all you hear from sony fans is a whole lot of this word right here ....2 letters over and over "if" this,"if"that again and again. Why argue what is not fact but common sense Sony themselves didnt employ?You dont the majority of 360 fans saying if MS didnt dick up with RROD theyd be making so much money, if the rrod wasnt out there then yada yada yada. Its just looks and sounds pathetics whne at every article the fans come out of the woodworks to correct the article,slant it in positve way,whine of conspiracies.
Yea when my friends get RRODs they get pissed off and threaten to buy PS3s... lol :P
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15. January 2009 @ 18:44 |
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You notice all you hear from sony fans is a whole lot of this word right here ....2 letters over and over "if" this,"if"that again and again. Why argue what is not fact but common sense Sony themselves didnt employ?You dont the majority of 360 fans saying if MS didnt dick up with RROD theyd be making so much money, if the rrod wasnt out there then yada yada yada. Its just looks and sounds pathetics whne at every article the fans come out of the woodworks to correct the article,slant it in positve way,whine of conspiracies.
Yea when my friends get RRODs they get pissed off and threaten to buy PS3s... lol :P
i bet... key word is "threaten" they must know better than that to go out and do something crazy like that LOL back at cha
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15. January 2009 @ 19:57 |
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Personally I owned a first generation PS and enjoyed it for what it's worth. I then went to Xbox and thought they had a better selection of games to play. Up until last year I still got together with my friends and played HALO in LAN parties.
I am now the proud owner of a 360 and after a year, still playing Halo3 over LIVE. The addition of being able to stream Netflix movies reinforces my decision to have purchased this console and spend the $50 for LIVE.
Xbox also has an option for you to create Community Games for your 360 and gives you access to the console to test your game. You can also sell your game in the Marketplace and make money off of it. This is something I may look into and try out.
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15. January 2009 @ 20:04 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
I wonder how many extra units MS sold because of the RROD...
I know my friend has 2 because he didn't want to wait 6 weeks...
I'm very certain it's plenty. Those will be the numbers that are never accounted for or accredited to M$ when looking at where they stand in this so called war. Personally I think they are even with Sony in terms of whats actually sold straight up sales not re-sales on a out of warranty defective unit.
I dont think the resold units are that big of a factor as you also have to take into consideration how many people did NOT buy a xbox360 d/t the horror of RROD. The people who are afraid of buying may cancell out the ones whom are repeat buyers or xbox 360 could possible have more units moved if the RROD had never happened. Dont know for sure.
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Originally posted by Morreale:
I wonder how many extra units MS sold because of the RROD...
I know my friend has 2 because he didn't want to wait 6 weeks...
I'm very certain it's plenty. Those will be the numbers that are never accounted for or accredited to M$ when looking at where they stand in this so called war. Personally I think they are even with Sony in terms of whats actually sold straight up sales not re-sales on a out of warranty defective unit.
You make a good point. You know how many people say they had a xbox 360 rrod and none of them ever say they like the 360 or its games? I mean ive personally known 2 people and they were pissed when their systems rrod but they were pissed cause they play it all the time. And both them got their systems in under 3 weeks. Im not saying its exucsable and personally i havent had an issue since launch purchase but out of the people out there true gamers are pissed and buy another because they cant wait. The ps2 had 1/10 the issue as MS is having but still do the math and even its only 30,000 people worldwide which is lowballin it that lost their systems everyone ive ever talked to who had it bought another because of the great game selection. We know the 360 offers that so those who lost it 1 out of 10 times should say something referencing losing it due to rrod should mention a game they were playing but it doesnt seem to happen.Strange huh?Im drunk so it makes no sense
I dont think the resold units are that big of a factor as you also have to take into consideration how many people did NOT buy a xbox360 d/t the horror of RROD. The people who are afraid of buying may cancell out the ones whom are repeat buyers or xbox 360 could possible have more units moved if the RROD had never happened. Dont know for sure.
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16. January 2009 @ 12:58 |
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Do the Math!
Remember the Atari Jaguar? Yes I bought one back then. lol.
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16. January 2009 @ 14:19 |
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-sigh- i hate it when sony fights MS because its just pathetic to fight with a less superior system. The fact IS that if people put down the numbers no matter WHICH version of the 360 they compare it to the PS3 is STILL less expensive in EVERY WAY! the fact that MS has a GOLD membership is proof of that. the addons like wi-fi and the obviously outdated HD DVD port arent necessary but to make the 360 as great as others make it out to be you NEED the internet access. With out it you're all alone and games like Fable2 and (can't believe i'm saying this game name) HALO youll won't make you very happy to play when you're all by yourself at home. Halo has no 1 player practice mode and the story is fun to play.....ONCE....or twice...after that it just gets stupid. and Fable as great as it may be the fact that you can have other players come into your world and allow you to see their world makes for a whole new experience that quite frankly i don't wish to miss. But i'm not willing to spend the extra 50-60 a year on something i can get for free at home with the ps3.
To top it off MS not is actually doubling your expenses seeing as their charge for their own internet access on a PC do they not? as do all internet companies...so why charge for 360s internet? they're only trying to make cash so they may delay their obvious fate...FAILURE at making a very good gaming system.
The System itself is just pathetic, it's slower than the ps3, the hard drive can't compare since if you run out of room you need one specifically made for the 360 where as the ps3 you can hook up almost any random HD you find and format it for the ps3. the actual Lazer in the system is a major problem that they should really start to focus on seeing as they're getting endless complaints about burns in discs and the "Ring of Death". and to top it off the fact that they still can't produce a system with wi-fi capabilities already built in is kinda pathetic. look at Mac, Sony,...even Nintendo finally figured this one out. they all have their equipment COME WITH WI-FI but MS still comes out with computers that need a WI-FI card attached to it just to make it wirelss...its sad...truely sad.
Oh and don't get me wrong the PS3 is far from being PERFECT. The internet is get laggy and some-what dead at times due to little users but thats just common sense since every fool on earth is playing with the 360. In anycase there have also been software issues, and the battery in the controller may be convenient but if the battery itself looses the ability to hold a charge you need to replace the whole controller seeing as they didnt make a replaceable battery accessory for it. Also the size of the dam thing....does it really need to be so big? i guess from a performance point of view the fact that it has a BR drive, standard now 80G HD, HD capabilities and a few othre things jammed into this thing...i guess it needs a lot of fans...but comeon...they couldn't find some way to downsize the product after the first run of the 20 and 60g systems? they're all too heavy!
...hmmmm..other than those issues...i dont really see anything wrong with it...so yah....the PS3 is WAAAAY better than the 360 and most gaming companies should have alrady noticed that fact. but they are too blinded by the offers and crap they're given to join up with MS that they fail to see their doomed fate.
MS claims that the 360 will outlive the ps3..their estimate is 10 yrs for the ps3...and their 360 will outlive it by ONE DAY....hmph the only way thatll happen is if they take down Sony that week of the 10th yr mark or if they start to make their systems a little more worth while. the fact that Sony still makes games for the PS2 is proof that the ps3 will survive waaay longer because if they made a system good enough to compare to the 360 seeing as ps2 actually outsold the 360 then that means that the ps3 has limitless potential that needs to be tapped into. its why i'm waiting for the release of that project they dubbed MAG.....i wanna play the 256 player game! -drools thinking about the carnage-
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To take Sony remotely seriously as a company you have to painfully overlook everything their executives say and do, honestly, it's hilarious some of the crap they come out with.
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16. January 2009 @ 16:09 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
To take Sony remotely seriously as a company you have to painfully overlook everything their executives say and do, honestly, it's hilarious some of the crap they come out with.
Well, it's better than those executives need bailout. I have nothing to say, the article is screaming for trouble... Beauty is in the eye of beholder, there will always be some people like ugly looking people/animals/stuffs. To them, everything/anything is a bargain...
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16. January 2009 @ 17:07 |
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http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/ps3-...redicts/1279759
Its funny that the comment was even made from a Sony employee and then you see news like this. I know the article does not say it is for sure but i kinda agree myself a price drop for PS3 is coming soon and eventually xbox360 will counter with another of their own when PS3 sales increase after the decrease in price. They need to hurry up. I want a PS3.
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16. January 2009 @ 17:12 |
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The PS3, sold on its potential alone, is worth maybe 20% more than xbox 360, at the most. Right now in the UK at least, it's 80% more. The PS3 sold for how good it actually is as a product, e.g. games included, how well it performs etc, is worth less than the xbox 360. Whether or not I buy one, the PS3 will never be value for money, on how weak it actually is as a product.
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16. January 2009 @ 17:35 |
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LOL. That's the equivilent of Mercedes saying that Toyotas are too expensive.
Sony, we know you're hurting and trailing behind the Xbox and Wii, but come on, making ridiculous claims is only going to hurt you more. Sheesh!
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16. January 2009 @ 17:58 |
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Originally posted by ChiefBrdy:
LOL. That's the equivilent of Mercedes saying that Toyotas are too expensive.
Sony, we know you're hurting and trailing behind the Xbox and Wii, but come on, making ridiculous claims is only going to hurt you more. Sheesh!
Generally in here the analogies in here coming from MS fans or people who are fed up with hearing the arrogant giant that is sony whining like a kid when their losing are far more intellegent than the other side of the spectrum if you catch my drift. Nice ^^^^, i think thats because all the hating people do on the rrod plagued 360 could matter less to its fans and MS cause they are 8 million consoles sold ahead and the only thing left to do is spin it like to whatever satisfies them mentally.
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LOL. That's the equivilent of Mercedes saying that Toyotas are too expensive.
Sony, we know you're hurting and trailing behind the Xbox and Wii, but come on, making ridiculous claims is only going to hurt you more. Sheesh!
Generally in here the analogies in here coming from MS fans or people who are fed up with hearing the arrogant giant that is sony whining like a kid when their losing are far more intellegent than the other side of the spectrum if you catch my drift. Nice ^^^^, i think thats because all the hating people do on the rrod plagued 360 could matter less to its fans and MS cause they are 8 million consoles sold ahead and the only thing left to do is spin it like to whatever satisfies them mentally.
Could you repeat that into something intelligible.
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