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14. January 2009 @ 15:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I want to build my own pc But I havent a clue how
I dont want to spend over 800 euro (excl monitor)
I wont be playing much games
I want a fast proccesor intel (maybe quad core)
500GB hardrive
Good nough graphics card and any aul sound card will do
Now im not sure how much memory I actually need (any advice would be helpfull!) Maybe about 4 GB
now Id like 2-4 usb ports but other than that I havent a clue how to pick out a good motherboard
And as for a cover I havent a clue (does it really matter will I just get the cheapest one ? )

So any advice on CPU's Graphic cards Motherboards Memory and covers will be very helpfull

Also Do I have to get a fan ?

Thanks
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15. January 2009 @ 08:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Intel CPUs come with coolers as long as you buy them marked 'retail' and not 'OEM'.
Which country do you live in, and I will try and find a parts list for you.



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15. January 2009 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Intel CPUs come with coolers as long as you buy them marked 'retail' and not 'OEM'.
Which country do you live in, and I will try and find a parts list for you.
Thanks for helping mate
Im from ireland
My main problem at the moment is what motherboard to pick I havent a clue tbh why are some so expensive and others not ?
Also I dunno what Graphics card to pick I want a good one but not too expensive
I thgink ill go with this CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 2.4 GHz, cache L2 8 MB Socket 775 or
Intel Xeon X3220 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 105W Quad-Core Processor
The second one is more expensive therefore its better ?
Its powerfull and just about the right price
Im going with a 500GB Hard Drive

Also it need to be able to play x264 1080p movies and SolidWorks 2009 Should run smoothly

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15. January 2009 @ 10:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Graphics cards vary in performance in the same way CPUs do, but to a far greater extent. For basic usage like web browsing, word processing, downloads and watching Standard definition video, it doesn't really matter what graphics card you have. HD video adds a little demand, and is beyond the scope of the majority of integrated graphics chips. The main reason you would have a powerful graphics card though, is for games performance, and occasionally, graphics based processing (such as Folding at Home and 3D rendering). If you're not a gamer, and don't use GPU-accelerated programs, then you only need what is required to render HD video, for which I'd recommend a Radeon HD4670.

Of the CPUs, the X3220 is not more expensive because it is more powerful. It is more expensive because it is intended for the server environment, not for home use PCs. It is also based off an older revision of the technology, so it could in fact be marginally slower.





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15. January 2009 @ 10:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Graphics cards vary in performance in the same way CPUs do, but to a far greater extent. For basic usage like web browsing, word processing, downloads and watching Standard definition video, it doesn't really matter what graphics card you have. HD video adds a little demand, and is beyond the scope of the majority of integrated graphics chips. The main reason you would have a powerful graphics card though, is for games performance, and occasionally, graphics based processing (such as Folding at Home and 3D rendering). If you're not a gamer, and don't use GPU-accelerated programs, then you only need what is required to render HD video, for which I'd recommend a Radeon HD4670.

Of the CPUs, the X3220 is not more expensive because it is more powerful. It is more expensive because it is intended for the server environment, not for home use PCs. It is also based off an older revision of the technology, so it could in fact be marginally slower.
Ok thanks ill go for the core quad then
I couldnt run solidworks on my old pc because of the graphics card so I think I need a powerfull one
As for games I dont play much but id like to be able to play games like Call Of Duty and Fallout
Now I dont play often but I will a bit
so is the Radeon HD4670 good enough or will I go higher ?
BTW the games wont have to play on a very good onitor just a standard lcd screen

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15. January 2009 @ 11:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The HD4670 is enough to play games like that OK on a small screen, but I've no idea how much graphis power Solidworks requires. To be on the safe side, look at an HD4850, they're nearly double the performance, and still good value.



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15. January 2009 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
The HD4670 is enough to play games like that OK on a small screen, but I've no idea how much graphis power Solidworks requires. To be on the safe side, look at an HD4850, they're nearly double the performance, and still good value.

Ok Thanks But which one is that Here or is it even there ?

And What Motherboard should I go with ?

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15. January 2009 @ 12:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok thanks
You think I should go with the Q9100 instead of the Q6600 ?

Also Can I add more usb slots to the board
And What Sound Card ? Doesnt need to be good Just be able to fit with motherboard
And should I get ddr3 or ddr2 memory (im getting 2 x 2 GB )

Btw thanks so much for your help

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15. January 2009 @ 12:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There is no Q9100 to my knowledge. The Q9300 is a bit faster than the Q6600, probably by about 10%, but uses less power.
The motherboard comes with a USB header cable to add two more USB ports at the back, and also has an additional header that the case plugs into to give you two front USB ports.
The motherboard also has integrated sound. Install the driver off the included CD, Plug speakers or headphones in and off you go.



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15. January 2009 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry I meant Q9300
Ok cool
Just one more thing I think
My friend has a Wifi card he will give to me Im not sure of the spec but will it probally fit into the motherboard ?
And.......
And should I get ddr3 or ddr2 memory (im getting 2 x 2 GB )

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15. January 2009 @ 13:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DDR2 is fine, and much cheaper.
A Wifi card will work if its either PCI or PCI express 1x.



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15. January 2009 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok Thanks for all your help
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15. January 2009 @ 18:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One more thing are you sure this proccesor comes with a cooler
http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/966910/art/...00-2-5-ghz.html
Will it not need a fan at all ?
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15. January 2009 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Assuming Pixmania send you the retail package then yes, they have stated they do on the website.



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